Why, god? WHY!? *attempts to slit wrists with a pen*

Blind_Io · January 15th, 2007, 5:16 AM

My dad just got back from the auto show this week (I missed it because I was out of town).

He informed me that at the Ford display there was a banner saying "The Return of the Edsel."

WHY?! Wha- how, who the fuck thought that bringing back the biggest flop in Ford history would be a good idea?!

Someone please tell me that my father is just winding me up, PLEASE!?

thedguy · January 15th, 2007, 5:19 AM

Ford wanted to take the "ugliest cars made" crown back from Chinese... or at least Pontiac images/smilies/tongue.gif

BerserkerCatSplat · January 15th, 2007, 5:27 AM

If they bring back the Edsel name, it would be swanktacular.

...I do suspect your dad was yanking your chain!

jetsetter · January 15th, 2007, 5:41 AM

Eh, I've seen uglier vehicles than the Edsel. They do make good hotrods.

Magnet · January 15th, 2007, 5:49 AM

With a sleek, new, but slightly retro interpretation of the vagina grille.

Blind_Io · January 15th, 2007, 9:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnet

With a sleek, new, but slightly retro interpretation of the vagina grille.

You mean the Toilet Seat?

Don't romanticize that turd of a car.

-Cpt. J.- · January 15th, 2007, 11:55 AM

Can I see a picture of the previous car?
I want to know what you guys are talking about.

KaJuN · January 15th, 2007, 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Cpt. J.-

Can I see a picture of the previous car?
I want to know what you guys are talking about.

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/967/edselhc7.png

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4659/edsel2ay0.png

There you go. Am I the only one in the world who actually thinks these look good? images/smilies/lol.gif

Well at least the ones with the full chrome grilles like in the last picture.

Momentum57 · January 15th, 2007, 2:06 PM

The truth is it was a great car with Self-Adjusting brakes (new with Edsel - still used today) Floating speedometer that glows when a pre-set speed limit is exceeded Transmission locks in park until ignition key turned (new with Edsel - still used today) Top portion of seats slant forward to provide shoulder support Triple-thermostat cooling system (head/block/radiator) during warm-up for increased fuel economy & heater performance Front-mounted distributor, coil, fuel pump, oil filter dipstick for easy access. Hood hinged in the front for safety Hood release controlled electronically, from inside the car. The front seats were split 60/40 for better driver comfort.

When the concept came out it had inside/outside thermometer, air suspension, power steering. Get this when it made its debut the press said it was over done and that no driver would ever need or want any of these things. The press dug its grave and its price didn't help.

BerserkerCatSplat · January 15th, 2007, 2:35 PM

The Edsel was an excellent car, and they're actually pretty nice to drive for a 50's land yacht.

ryosuke · January 15th, 2007, 2:51 PM

what kind of a stupid name is this?

British_Rover · January 15th, 2007, 3:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryosuke

what kind of a stupid name is this?

The edsel was named after one of Ford's sons...

It was very advanced for its day but man was it ugly and over priced.

Sometimes being first is not the best thing. Just look at the Tucker Automobiles from right after World War II.

No Boss · January 15th, 2007, 4:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedguy

Ford wanted to take the "ugliest cars made" crown back from Chinese... or at least Pontiac images/smilies/tongue.gif

nice....

klutch · January 15th, 2007, 4:30 PM

Just imagine...

We're all in our 60's, 70's and 80's...GM, in an effort to appeal to us elderly buyers, resurrects one of the most popular, emotional cars ever - the Aztec!

thedguy · January 15th, 2007, 6:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by British_Rover

Sometimes being first is not the best thing. Just look at the Tucker Automobiles from right after World War II.

Unfortunately that was only a case of being good competition to the "Big 3." images/smilies/sad.gif

Blind_Io · January 15th, 2007, 6:59 PM

*Takes off hat*

To the 1948 Tucker, a dream realized before it's time.

Also one of my all time favorite cars. Last I heard a company was making replicas and using a Cadillac Northstar V8.

jayhawk · January 16th, 2007, 12:23 AM

I think the Edsel was brilliant...nor because of the design, but the amount of attention it drew to the company. Publicity can be either good or bad, and both can have a positive end.

Blind_Io · January 16th, 2007, 12:45 AM

Are you kidding? The Edsel is covered in business and marketing classes as an example of what NOT to do. The whole project cost Ford millions of dollars and made them the laughingstock of the industry. People still make jokes about the Edsel being a colossal flop, it's become a part of the language. Ford will never live down the Edsel, and if they do bring it back the project will be crucified before it ever makes it to the show room.

British_Rover · January 16th, 2007, 1:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

Are you kidding? The Edsel is covered in business and marketing classes as an example of what NOT to do. The whole project cost Ford millions of dollars and made them the laughingstock of the industry. People still make jokes about the Edsel being a colossal flop, it's become a part of the language. Ford will never live down the Edsel, and if they do bring it back the project will be crucified before it ever makes it to the show room.

Agreed the Edsel is a common used adjetive for badly designed, implemented and marketed products.

RE The Tucker...

Tucker's advances were ahead of anything else in the marketplace and since the Big three owned large portions of the gov't at the time it didn't take much to convince people his advances were dangerous.

Short list of Tuckers advances...

1. Power Disc brakes all around
2. Padded Dash
3. Safety cage/safety pocket
4. Headlight follows direction of steering wheel
5. Safety class
6. Pre-selector semi-manual transmission

The turning headlight did not come to modern cars untill just a couple of years ago and then it is just optional on high end luxury vehicles.

Magnet · January 16th, 2007, 1:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by British_Rover

The turning headlight did not come to modern cars untill just a couple of years ago and then it is just optional on high end luxury vehicles.

Actually, the turning headlight was on the Citroen DS for years (yes, the car came out after the Tucker, but the technology was still there)

January 15th, 2007, 5:16 AM	#1
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 10:55 PM Location: Utah, USA Age: 29 Posts: 12,212 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 458	Why, god? WHY!? attempts to slit wrists with a pen My dad just got back from the auto show this week (I missed it because I was out of town). He informed me that at the Ford display there was a banner saying "The Return of the Edsel." WHY?! Wha- how, who the fuck thought that bringing back the biggest flop in Ford history would be a good idea?! Someone please tell me that my father is just winding me up, PLEASE!? __________________ Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul.

January 15th, 2007, 5:27 AM	#3
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January 15th, 2007, 5:41 AM	#4
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-Cpt. J.- Joined: Aug 3rd, 2006 Last Online: February 19th, 2010 Location: Finland Age: 25 Posts: 1,256 Car: none Rep Power: 19	Can I see a picture of the previous car? I want to know what you guys are talking about.

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BerserkerCatSplat Hormone Induced Joined: Jun 21st, 2005 Last Online: 10:14 PM Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 7,268 Car: ZJ 4X4X5 Rep Power: 299	The Edsel was an excellent car, and they're actually pretty nice to drive for a 50's land yacht. __________________ OSPhoto

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klutch Courteous urinator Joined: Jan 6th, 2006 Last Online: March 1st, 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,886 Car: Whatever's in the press fleet. Rep Power: 48	Just imagine... We're all in our 60's, 70's and 80's...GM, in an effort to appeal to us elderly buyers, resurrects one of the most popular, emotional cars ever - the Aztec!

January 15th, 2007, 6:59 PM	#16
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 10:55 PM Location: Utah, USA Age: 29 Posts: 12,212 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 458	Takes off hat To the 1948 Tucker, a dream realized before it's time. Also one of my all time favorite cars. Last I heard a company was making replicas and using a Cadillac Northstar V8. __________________ Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul.

January 16th, 2007, 12:23 AM	#17
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January 16th, 2007, 12:45 AM	#18
Blind_Io Dispenses buckshot medication for all undead patients. Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: 10:55 PM Location: Utah, USA Age: 29 Posts: 12,212 Car: 2006 Nissan X-Terra - 2000 VFR800 Interceptor Rep Power: 458	Are you kidding? The Edsel is covered in business and marketing classes as an example of what NOT to do. The whole project cost Ford millions of dollars and made them the laughingstock of the industry. People still make jokes about the Edsel being a colossal flop, it's become a part of the language. Ford will never live down the Edsel, and if they do bring it back the project will be crucified before it ever makes it to the show room. __________________ Four Wheels Move the Body, Two Wheels Move the Soul.

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