Worst news ever: Canada to implement speed limiting devices on all cars - Page 2

jayhawk · February 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by starfox07

Big imposing government = teh fail.

Libertarian FTW!

MattD1zzl3 · February 10th, 2008, 4:32 PM

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Originally Posted by phuckingduck

Reason #193,850 to buy a muscle car. Try strapping that on to an old fashioned car images/smilies/smile.gif

I'm sure it wouldnt be hard to bolt a standalone device to the throttle body.

And override/remove? i'm sure that would be a major major crime.

No Boss · February 10th, 2008, 4:33 PM

The safest speed to travel, is the speed at which the rest of the traffic is traveling.

End of story. Speed limits are arbitrary.

GT - R · February 10th, 2008, 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopar Man

I don't care how much I get fined, they stick one of those in my truck, I'm ripping it right out again.

Your Father must be going crazy with this news images/smilies/lol.gif

I Hope Your Father does the same in his GT - R and in his Aston Martin V8 Vantage images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

3Colin · February 10th, 2008, 9:18 PM

Has anyone ever thought of arranging a protest of sorts where a group of drivers go on, say, the 401 and do 95 km/h in every lane?

This would be a better idea if the highway speed limits in this country were more reasonable. However - when I think about it it would make sense to stick habitual speeders in "Granny-mode" all the time. Maybe then they'd figure out they don't need to be in such a goddamned hurry.

p.s. Libertarianism is but a reflexive political phase. You'll grow out of it.

thedguy · February 10th, 2008, 9:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GT - R

Your Father must be going crazy with this news images/smilies/lol.gif

I Hope Your Father does the same in his GT - R and in his Aston Martin V8 Vantage images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

Don't forget the '69 426 Hemi Charger.

GT - R · February 10th, 2008, 10:07 PM

No we sold that one to make way for the Veyron

GraemeH · February 11th, 2008, 12:45 AM

This is like the breathalizers that convicted drunk drivers have to use before they can start their cars; It seems like an ok idea, because it's limited to people that have shown they aren't responsible, but I'm still against it.

Why? It's opening the doors to further use of it. It's compromising, taking the first step on the road that will lead to people saying, "well it works on offenders cars, why not use it on all cars?". By that point it wont seem like such a leap, because it will already be implimented on some cars.

This is the kind of thing the British government would be all over as soon as someone suggests it. images/smilies/sad.gif

prizrak · February 11th, 2008, 1:26 AM

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Originally Posted by starfox07

Big imposing government = teh fail.

Libertarian FTW!

Pfft, you libertarians never take it far enough. ANARCHY RULES!!!!!!! images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

thedguy · February 11th, 2008, 2:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GT - R

No we sold that one to make way for the Veyron

He couldn't have, he'd be booted out of the Mopar ~~fan~~ leg humpers club for that. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Scooby5 · February 11th, 2008, 2:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GraemeH

Why? It's opening the doors to further use of it. It's compromising, taking the first step on the road that will lead to people saying, "well it works on offenders cars, why not use it on all cars?". By that point it wont seem like such a leap, because it will already be implimented on some cars.
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We've had exactly the same thing come in the Singapore media, using GPS as a means of paying road tolls.......leading into the paragraph later in the story about being used to monitor speeding, illegal u-turns, illegal parking and all the rest.

It's only a matter of time.

And the story did mention several other governments were looking into the same technology and it included Canada, (sorry Graeme) the UK, and i think even Germany.

Note that in Singapore, probably because it is so small, every single car and bike must have an ICU (In-Car Unit) fitted with a Cashcard regardless of the ahe of the vehicle. It must, by law be retrofitted in cars without. This ICU initially was ONLY for the express purpose of paying tolls to enter the city but now is included at many car parks for entry and exit. Even if your car doesn't drive into the city your car must have an ICU anyway......... and the reason being is because one the method is implemented the scope just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. Naturally.

epp_b · February 11th, 2008, 2:49 AM

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The safest speed to travel, is the speed at which the rest of the traffic is traveling.

End of story. Speed limits are arbitrary.

Amen to that!

Night_Hawk · February 11th, 2008, 3:54 AM

If this starts being used in my town, cars will be passed over solid lines daily no joke
not even from me

Im just glad I've never had any speeding tickets images/smilies/biggrin.gif

starfox07 · February 11th, 2008, 4:04 AM

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Originally Posted by prizrak

Pfft, you libertarians never take it far enough. ANARCHY RULES!!!!!!! images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

LMAO!! Yeah I wouldn't go that far. I'm a moderately conservative libertarian....yeah figure that one out! images/smilies/wacko.gif

scathing · February 11th, 2008, 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MattD1zzl3

I'm sure it wouldnt be hard to bolt a standalone device to the throttle body.

It wouldn't be that hard to just leave the entire thing in place, and then run a separate pipe and new throttle body around the existing one that's been GPS locked.

Without ECU control of the engine, especially with an ECU that cannot be replaced with an aftermarket one or have the speed limiter codes reflashed, circumvention would be relatively trivial.

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Originally Posted by MattD1zzl3

And override/remove? i'm sure that would be a major major crime.

So's punching out the cat or installing test pipes in most countries.......

Crazyjeeper · February 11th, 2008, 4:54 PM

Just get a car with a carburetor. When they open you hood to install it they will be like WTF is that?

thedguy · February 11th, 2008, 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by starfox07

LMAO!! Yeah I wouldn't go that far. I'm a moderately conservative libertarian....yeah figure that one out! images/smilies/wacko.gif

Just can't quite stand being labeled? images/smilies/tongue.gif

BerserkerCatSplat · February 11th, 2008, 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by starfox07

LMAO!! Yeah I wouldn't go that far. I'm a moderately conservative libertarian....yeah figure that one out! images/smilies/wacko.gif

'Round these parts, we like to call those people "fencesitters." images/smilies/tongue.gif

jayhawk · February 11th, 2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 3Colin

p.s. Libertarianism is but a reflexive political phase. You'll grow out of it.

Oh, okay.

Since I have been aligned with the party for the past, oh, fourteen years I have never once "grown out of it".

Unlike many, I stick to my principles and beliefs. images/smilies/smile.gif

Bugatti's Aftershave · February 12th, 2008, 12:36 AM

This is such old news that it has gone stale. Somebody should be taken out to the shed and be beaten with ye olde book of 'Look Up Your References'.

Architectures of Control 2005:
http://architectures.danlockton.co.u...l-in-canada-2/

CNN 2005:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/12/01/...eed/index.html

Nobody needs to worry. But still, I can't believe that this is a main reason why somebody would decide against living in Canada.

February 10th, 2008, 4:33 PM	#23
No Boss Neener, neener, I banned your title! Joined: Oct 8th, 2005 Last Online: 4:53 AM Location: 'mericuh, someday the UK. Age: 24 Posts: 6,859 Car: 2005 Volvo S60 R Rep Power: 86	The safest speed to travel, is the speed at which the rest of the traffic is traveling. End of story. Speed limits are arbitrary. __________________

February 11th, 2008, 12:45 AM	#28
GraemeH Joined: Apr 19th, 2005 Last Online: 1:47 AM Location: Scotland, UK Posts: 2,062 Car: Toyota Corolla. Rawrr. LFS Status: Rep Power: 33	This is like the breathalizers that convicted drunk drivers have to use before they can start their cars; It seems like an ok idea, because it's limited to people that have shown they aren't responsible, but I'm still against it. Why? It's opening the doors to further use of it. It's compromising, taking the first step on the road that will lead to people saying, "well it works on offenders cars, why not use it on all cars?". By that point it wont seem like such a leap, because it will already be implimented on some cars. This is the kind of thing the British government would be all over as soon as someone suggests it. __________________

February 11th, 2008, 3:54 AM	#33
Night_Hawk Joined: Oct 5th, 2006 Last Online: 5:15 AM Location: Gander Newfoundland Age: 19 Posts: 728 Car: 1996 Ford Thunderbird - 1986 Pontiac Grand Prix Rep Power: 16	If this starts being used in my town, cars will be passed over solid lines daily no joke not even from me Im just glad I've never had any speeding tickets __________________ Something new coming soon.

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Crazyjeeper Joined: Nov 29th, 2006 Last Online: 6:22 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 20 Posts: 4,985 Car: 1985 Jeep CJ7, 1997 Ford F150 Rep Power: 155	Just get a car with a carburetor. When they open you hood to install it they will be like WTF is that? __________________

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February 10th, 2008, 9:18 PM	#25
3Colin Joined: Jun 28th, 2005 Last Online: July 7th, 2009 Location: Markham or Waterloo, Ontario, Canada Posts: 340 Car: Subaru Legacy Rep Power: 0	Has anyone ever thought of arranging a protest of sorts where a group of drivers go on, say, the 401 and do 95 km/h in every lane? This would be a better idea if the highway speed limits in this country were more reasonable. However - when I think about it it would make sense to stick habitual speeders in "Granny-mode" all the time. Maybe then they'd figure out they don't need to be in such a goddamned hurry. p.s. Libertarianism is but a reflexive political phase. You'll grow out of it.

February 10th, 2008, 10:07 PM	#27
GT - R Joined: Jan 21st, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Seia , Portugal Posts: 280 Car: Skyline GTR (Someday) Rep Power: 17	No we sold that one to make way for the Veyron

February 12th, 2008, 12:36 AM	#40
Bugatti's Aftershave Joined: Dec 28th, 2007 Last Online: November 3rd, 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada / Brisbane, Australia Posts: 250 Car: 2005 MB C240 4matic, 1977 Yam XT500 Rep Power: 21	This is such old news that it has gone stale. Somebody should be taken out to the shed and be beaten with ye olde book of 'Look Up Your References'. Architectures of Control 2005: http://architectures.danlockton.co.u...l-in-canada-2/ CNN 2005: http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/12/01/...eed/index.html Nobody needs to worry. But still, I can't believe that this is a main reason why somebody would decide against living in Canada.

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