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Old November 17th, 2005, 6:10 PM   #1
 
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A win is a win I guess..not bad for that vette..

Besides, 90% of the comments on streetfire are from teenagers going:
"dude this and that car would smoke that car anyday, that was totally setup, that guy doesn't know how to drive, and it has NOS, cams, and a supercharger yo!" images/smilies/lol.gif images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

But also, hasn't AWD always had a bit of a disadvantage on a roll like that?
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A win is a win I guess..not bad for that vette..

Besides, 90% of the comments on streetfire are from teenagers going:
"dude this and that car would smoke that car anyday, that was totally setup, that guy doesn't know how to drive, and it has NOS, cams, and a supercharger yo!" images/smilies/lol.gif images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

But also, hasn't AWD always had a bit of a disadvantage on a roll like that?

Don't forget all the kids that choose cars based on how many women they can pick up with it. More women generally means more cops as well. And those mindless idiots that say the Corvette doesn't have heritage...
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A win is a win I guess..not bad for that vette..

Besides, 90% of the comments on streetfire are from teenagers going:
"dude this and that car would smoke that car anyday, that was totally setup, that guy doesn't know how to drive, and it has NOS, cams, and a supercharger yo!" images/smilies/lol.gif images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

But also, hasn't AWD always had a bit of a disadvantage on a roll like that?
yup AWD is quite parasitic. From a dig I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the Lambo would pull on the Vette
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i always find it funny when people compare $$$ figures as part of the kill story of cars of different classes ... "wow, my 65 grand vette beat a 165 grand gallardo!" ... that's like saying ... "wow, my 10 grand hayabusa beat a 65 grand vette"

either way, i'd still take the gallardo anyday of the week over a vette
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and id take a vette over the 350Z andy day of the year! lol no but really how dumb can those idiots over there be? images/smilies/bangin.gif
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i always find it funny when people compare $$$ figures as part of the kill story of cars of different classes ... "wow, my 65 grand vette beat a 165 grand gallardo!" ... that's like saying ... "wow, my 10 grand hayabusa beat a 65 grand vette"

either way, i'd still take the gallardo anyday of the week over a vette
i agree the Lambo costs a lot for a reason. one of which is exclusivity. the another of which is the styling, another of which is the time put into developing it, and last of which is the name.
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i always find it funny when people compare $$$ figures as part of the kill story of cars of different classes ... "wow, my 65 grand vette beat a 165 grand gallardo!" ... that's like saying ... "wow, my 10 grand hayabusa beat a 65 grand vette"

either way, i'd still take the gallardo anyday of the week over a vette
That's a bit ridiculous. Comparing a bike to a car is quite different than comparing two upper echelon sports cars. I could build a go-kart for 5 grand that would run the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds...eclipsing the busa...so what?

The point is that the Vette and Gallardo are much more comparable, close enough to be a worthy comparison. The Gallardo looks better, has that Italian (German images/smilies/wacko.gif) flair, and AWD should likely net you a better launch as well as improved handling in the wet.....but is that worth $100k extra? Especially considering the Vette is faster in a straight line and may very well be faster around a road course?

Elitists can sit behind their computers all day spouting about how they would never stoop so low as to own a Chevy...."Give me the thoroughbread Gallardo please!"....of course, between the two it would be difficult not to choose the Lambo assuming they were both free gifts. However, that will NEVER happen. I base my opinions in reality...and I find it FAR more impressive that for one hundred thousand dollars less, the Corvette can meet or exceed the Gallardo's performance.

I may actually be able to purchase a C6 Z06 in the near future...and that excites me a hell of a lot more than pointlessly dreaming about a Gallardo.
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how are they close enough to being comparable?? The Gallardo is in limited production, costs $100K more, is mid-engined, and AWD. It costs that much more because its a Lambo, its got good styling inside and out, and they spent much more developing it. Cars are comparable if people buying one will consider the other an alternative. I bet that there is no one in the world who is looking at buying a Gallardo, and then questioning himself about whether a ZO6 is better for him. Would you buy an F430 over an F40 because it is quicker and less expensive??
There are other cars to which you can compare the 'Vette, the Viper for example, and most TVR's as well.
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That's a bit ridiculous. Comparing a bike to a car is quite different than comparing two upper echelon sports cars. I could build a go-kart for 5 grand that would run the 1/4 mile in 9 seconds...eclipsing the busa...so what?

The point is that the Vette and Gallardo are much more comparable, close enough to be a worthy comparison. The Gallardo looks better, has that Italian (German images/smilies/wacko.gif) flair, and AWD should likely net you a better launch as well as improved handling in the wet.....but is that worth $100k extra? Especially considering the Vette is faster in a straight line and may very well be faster around a road course?

Elitists can sit behind their computers all day spouting about how they would never stoop so low as to own a Chevy...."Give me the thoroughbread Gallardo please!"....of course, between the two it would be difficult not to choose the Lambo assuming they were both free gifts. However, that will NEVER happen. I base my opinions in reality...and I find it FAR more impressive that for one hundred thousand dollars less, the Corvette can meet or exceed the Gallardo's performance.

I may actually be able to purchase a C6 Z06 in the near future...and that excites me a hell of a lot more than pointlessly dreaming about a Gallardo.
somehow i don't see a vette as being an "upper echelon car" relative to a lambo at least ... sure it may be high on chevy's line up, but that's like saying my 350z is also an "upper echelon" car and comparable to the gallardo, which it's not.

my point was that there's no point in comparing $$$ figures in relation to performance since there's OTHER factors to consider such as prestige, build quality, etc. especially when you talk about cars such as porsches, lambos, etc.
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I was speaking in terms of performance. Surely the Chevy does not share the same prestige as the Lambo.

However, is that prestige and exclusivity worth an extra tenth of a million only to be slower? Not to me...but I can see why it is to others.

I think comparing the price/performance ratio between 2 similarily performing cars is an extremely important variable...if not the most important. After all, very few, if any of us are multi-millionaires.

Considering what Chevy made with a price point of $65k, imagine what they could build if a business case was made for a $165k car. $$$ figures mean everything.
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you cant compare two cars that are sooo far away from each other in terms of layout and price. An Enzo does 0-60 in the same time as the Ford GT does, and it cost 5 times as much. it still doesnt matter.
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My short opinion on that: there´s much MUCH more in a car besides straight line performance... The Vette is an impressive package (specially considering the price) but there´s more in owning a Lamborghini than just drag racing.
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that guy sure looks like the image I have of a Corvette owner! images/smilies/lol.gif images/smilies/yucky.gif
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My short opinion on that: there´s much MUCH more in a car besides straight line performance... The Vette is an impressive package (specially considering the price) but there´s more in owning a Lamborghini than just drag racing.
The new Z06 is significantly faster than any current Lamborghini around the nurburgring. It's not just faster in a straight line...it's faster in the twisties.

http://www.baileymotorsports.com/nurburgring.html
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My short opinion on that: there´s much MUCH more in a car besides straight line performance... The Vette is an impressive package (specially considering the price) but there´s more in owning a Lamborghini than just drag racing.
The new Z06 is significantly faster than any current Lamborghini around the nurburgring. It's not just faster in a straight line...it's faster in the twisties.

http://www.baileymotorsports.com/nurburgring.html
There´s more than lap times then. images/smilies/mrgreen.gif
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Integra Type-R 8:43
Porsche Boxster, 204 PS/1325 k 8:54

Would any of you choose an Integra over a Porsche?
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My short opinion on that: there´s much MUCH more in a car besides straight line performance... The Vette is an impressive package (specially considering the price) but there´s more in owning a Lamborghini than just drag racing.
The new Z06 is significantly faster than any current Lamborghini around the nurburgring. It's not just faster in a straight line...it's faster in the twisties.

http://www.baileymotorsports.com/nurburgring.html
problem with all Nurburgring lap times is the fact of course that the same person doesnt drive it at the cars in the same conditions. On a short course like Laguna Seca, it may not make too much of a difference of who drives. On an excrutiatingly long track like the 'Ring, it can make all the difference in the world.
this is why a moderately quick car, like the integra, manages to be faster than a quicker, better handling, and generally better car, like the boxster. The Enzo was timed at 7:39 i believe. Now just how is a car like the SLR only 1 second behind the Enzo?
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I do recognize the fact that the vette is an amazing offer. And yes, the vette does match the lambo in performance. BUT it is 2 completely different types of people that buy these cars. The vette buyer is buying it because of it's good performance and value. The lambo is bought more as a collectors item and as an expencise toy. Regarding the ring times, it was a danish racing driver (Jan Magnussen, 2 times le mans winner) that seet the time in the ZO6 images/smilies/thumbsup.gif and in a recent interview he was asked what the most insane thing he had ever done was. He answered setting that time. So i bet the vette was pushed to very near it's absolute limits. Not so sure the lambos where.
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http://www.caranddriver.com/article....ticle_id=10243


Car and driver did a comparison test between the Z06 and the viper; they described the ZO6's handling as frightening. While they scored the viper a 10/10 on handling, they only gave the C6 a 6/10.

I'd say the quote by Magnussen backs that up.
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