Max Mosley - is it true?

Right your Dad was the V. Qusling of Britain, the very last thing you should do is dress up as a Nazi - he should have gone - I do not mind the shagging, lucky dog I say, but sorry you have a major family dishonour to live down - FAIL.
 
He shouldn't go because of the sex scandal but it has made his position one which he cannot reasonably keep. When countries do not want you attending their races, it is time to go as he can no longer do his duties effectively.
 
German, US clubs threaten FIA split

Tuesday, 03 June 2008

Several of Max Mosley's strongest critics within the FIA have intimated that they will no longer work with the organisation now that Mosley has won today's vote of confidence.

Although many leading automobile organisations had openly called on Mosley to stand down, he won the vote by a commanding 103 to 55 margin.

The German governing body the ADAC and its American counterpart the AAA have reacted angrily to the verdict.

AAA president Robert Darbelnet raised the possibility of a breakaway group being established.

"We should not rush to judgement on this," he told reporters in Paris.

"But one of the potential ramifications is the division or a split way from the organisation that might in fact provide an opportunity for like-minded clubs to find a representative body in a different form."

ADAC has already announced that it will suspend its active involvement in the FIA.

"ADAC views with regret and incredulity, the FIA general assembly's decision in Paris confirming Max Mosley in office as FIA president," the German body said in a statement.

"This is a reason for Europe's largest automobile club to let its functions and cooperation in FIA working groups rest at world level.

"ADAC will stay with its decision as long as Max Mosley holds the top FIA office as president."

Guido van Woerkom, president of the Royal Dutch Touring Club, said he had voted against Mosley and warned that the FIA faced the risk of future schism with the Briton likely to be cold-shouldered for his remaining time in office.

"I think we will survive the period to November 2009, but if the next president is a purely sport man, then that will certainly be the end of the cooperation between the mobility and sport clubs in the FIA," he said.

Van Woerkom said he was personally convinced there was no Nazi element to Mosley's actions but insisted that was a side issue.

"The main issue is [whether Mosley is] credible to represent us in the world of mobility and sport and I don't think if you have that behaviour you are a credible man," he said.

The FIA oversees both worldwide motorsport and world motoring, with particular responsibility for safety and Formula 1's regulations.

Although some of the largest FIA organisations were among the most vocal critics of Mosley and are believed to have voted against him, the FIA's strict one member, one vote system meant that smaller bodies representing fewer members had equal influence.

Former Minardi team owner Paul Stoddart ? a long-time foe of Mosley ? believes a breakaway is now inevitable.

"It's a sad day for world motorsport," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

"If the 103 countries [who voted in Mosley's favour] were read out, I guarantee you wouldn't recognise 99 percent of them, with a few notable exceptions.

"I think it's the beginning of the end of the FIA as we know it.

"I suspect we will now see a massive breakaway ? the 50-odd that voted against Mosley represent some 80 percent of the numbers of the worldwide motoring groups of the big countries that we all know and respect.

"We will now see the demise of the FIA because [Mosley] cannot perform his job."

But the Motor Sports Association, the organisation in charge of British racing, says it will respect the outcome of the vote.

"The Motor Sports Association respects the decision of the FIA General Assembly concerning President Mosley and considers that it is now time to move on and for the sport to pull together," said MSA chief executive Colin Hilton.

"The Motor Sports Association looks forward to continuing to work constructively as an important member of the FIA in the future."

Australian FIA delegate Garry Connelly said the atmosphere in the assembly had been calm and polite and hoped the world body, representing 222 national motoring organisations in 130 countries, could now unite and move on.

"There's people talking about breakaways but frankly the FIA has achieved amazing things in its 100-year history and it would be crazy to think that it's not going to achieve even more and better things in future," he said.

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^ Political grandstanding - it won't happen, they're just making a point. In short, move along, nothing to see here.
 
FUCK! FUCK! Son of fucking... Mother fucker!! AGGGGH! That's BULLSHIT!

ok sorry had to get that out of my system...fuck.
 
I don't think the incident itself is fair grounds for his dismissal. I'm a firm believer that your private life should not affect your career. What I do believe, however, is that the way he has handled this situation does warrant him being relieved. He dropped the hammer on McLaren last year over the spy scandal because it hurt the image of F1. Isn't that exactly what this whole Mosley scandal has done? If he truly cared about the image of the sport he would have stepped down immediately because even the blindest person could see how badly this has affected the sport so far. But he hasn't stepped down. So how much does he really care about F1?
 
Sniff Petrol's take on it:

Sniff said:
NEW SLIPPERINESS BENCHMARK DISCOVERED

There was joy amongst linguists this week following the discovery of a new benchmark for slipperiness. Language experts say the new reference point will rapidly become a convention for anything that is beyond the slippery qualities expressed via existing references such as ?a bar of soap? and will be known simply as ?a Mosley?.

?This new idiom will come in very useful,? said Dr Andthe Medics, Professor of Talking And Stuff at St Scomemarchingin College, Cambridge. ?Previous conventions were actually quite limited when it came to adequately encapsulating something that could get away, even when it seemed to be quite impossible for it do so. ?As slippery as a Mosley? really does solve that problem?.

It emerges that language fans are not the only ones expressing amazement at this new idiomatic standard. ?Fuck me, I thought I was a devious twat when it came to getting away with stuff,? said an eel, yesterday. ?But it turns out that ?a Mosley? has taken it to a new and almost completely unbelievable level?.

?I?m frankly staggered,? added liquid mercury, speaking from its home, inside a thermometer. ?I?ve always prided myself on being impossible to nail down but I think even I would struggle to escape from something that really should have had me bang to rights for being a embarrassing old fart, yet ?a Mosley? did just that?.

However, not everyone appears to be quite so impressed with ?a Mosley?. ?This is an outrage,? said a wall yesterday. ?People are always throwing shit at me to see what sticks and you know what? Some of it does. Frankly, I?m sick of it. At least I?ve now learned from reading about ?a Mosley? that in future if I want to find that, against all righteous expectation, somehow no shit has stuck to me whatsoever, I just need to get my leathery old arse spanked by a German speaking hooker?.

https://pic.armedcats.net/a/an/anonymous/2008/06/06/slipsign.jpg

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It has been reported for some time that Mohammad Bin Sulayem, the UAE's representative at the FIA, was largely responsible for Max Mosley's recent victory in a vote of confidence by the FIA General Assembly. Bin Sulayem is now admitting what he did, telling the Gulf News that he organised 41 of Mosley's 103 votes.
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20506.html

Mohammad Bin Sulayem is now being touted as a possible next FIA Prez! He has some amazing cars, but I doubt an oil baron would be the right choice for the FIA when they are trying to go electric.
 
It's all farcical.

What happened to the "Interest of the Sport?" when the FIA is talking about a 150% increase in the enterance fees of new teams to the sport. Wasn't Max's goal to make the sport more easily accessible to smaller teams?

What a complete and total joke. The amount of corruption here is just staggering.
 
Bernie said to have told Mosley of plot

Friday, 27 June 2008

The scandal that engulfed Max Mosley earlier this year has taken a fresh twist following the claim that the FIA president received prior warning from Bernie Ecclestone of a plot to remove him from office.

Formula 1?s commercial rights supremo Ecclestone discovered that people were looking to discredit his long-time friend through information from an intelligence consultant, according to The Times.

The newspaper quotes the consultant, Dean Attew ? a former Ecclestone employee who also advised Mosley ? as saying he had been approached with the information more than two months before the expose on the FIA president's private life was published.

?In January this year I received a call from a friend,? Attew told the newspaper.

?We had a meeting and I was approached and told there was an open budget to effectively go out and source material that would bring Max to his knees and, more importantly, remove him from office and discredit him publicly.

?During the conversation I said to the guy, 'What's your budget?' and he said, 'It's an open budget,' and I said, 'OK, be specific here, are you after Max, are you after the FIA or are you after Bernie?'

?They then went back and they came back a little while later and said, 'We are not going to pursue it for the time being.'?

Attew says he relayed the information to Ecclestone, who subsequently warned Mosley of the plot.

?I sat down with Bernie and told him what I'd heard,? he said.

?Bernie then told Max ? I know this because Max later confirmed this to me.

?Because of the relationship I have with both of them, and Max knowing who I was, I assumed that the warning would be taken seriously.?

The conversations came two months before the News of the World published a front-page story with pictures and a video, which included the revelations of Mosley?s involvement with prostitutes.

Attew says the expose proved that Mosley hadn?t taken the warning seriously.

?It was very clear that Max had disregarded both the advice he had been given and had failed to realise his vulnerability at that stage,? he said.

?The issue for me was his total disregard for genuine advice from individuals that he knew had his best interests at heart. When we saw what was in the News of the World, Bernie was as flabbergasted as I was.?

In the aftermath of the story?s publication, Mosley indicated that he felt that he had been the victim of a set-up and hired investigators to examine who was behind the expose, as well as suing the newspaper involved for a breach of privacy.

In a letter to the FIA's member clubs, Mosley said: ?From information provided to me by an impeccable high-level source close to the UK police and security services, I understand that over the last two weeks or so, a covert investigation of my private life and background has been undertaken by a group specialising in such things, for reasons and clients as yet unknown."

The FIA president?s claims prompted speculation as to who could have triggered the sting, with McLaren boss Ron Dennis forced to deny all suggestions that his McLaren organisation had been involved following comments, since retracted, by a Czech motorsport official.

Ecclestone then issued a categorical denial to The Times last week over rumours that he may have been linked to the expose ? a position Attew says his evidence supports.

?I hear things about people suggesting Bernie was behind this, but that is ridiculous,? Attew added.

?From the very first indication Bernie and I, with Max's knowledge, have tried to find out who was the source.?

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Two women who took part in a sadomasochistic session with motorsport boss Max Mosley have denied there was any Nazi-themed role-play.

Instead, the witnesses - called "D" and "A" - told the High Court that what had happened had been a "prison fantasy".

Mr Mosley is taking legal action against the News of the World which alleged he had engaged in a "sick Nazi orgy with five hookers".

He is suing the newspaper for defamation and invasion of privacy.

'Offensive' description

Woman D, a dark-haired student in her 20s who cannot be identified, said the paper's account of what had happened on March 28 in a Chelsea basement flat was "absurd".

She told the court: "I am particularly appalled at the accusations that our scenarios had any Nazi connotation or overtones. No Nazi images, uniforms or material were used."


She also found "offensive" the description of her and the other women involved as "hookers and prostitutes".

On March 28, she said, she felt she was "amongst friends, doing something I enjoy and all those involved enjoy".

She added: "I would rather be doing CP (corporal punishment) a long way over going to the dentist."

She said she had known Mr Mosley for about 18 months, having met him at a party arranged by Woman A. She was introduced to him as "Mike".

"Since that first experience with the claimant I have seen him a number of times and we have forged a friendship," she said.

Cross-examined by Mr Mosley's barrister, Woman D denied that she was "financially dependent" on Mr Mosley, who is president of the International Automobile Federation (FIA).

'It is just fun'

Woman A, a well-dressed blonde, told the court she had been involved in BDSM (bondage, discipline, dominance and submission) all her adult life.

She said: "When I am being dealt with, just as when I deal with others, there is no maliciousness or anger involved - it is just fun, exciting, an endorphin rush."

Referring to Woman E, who talked to the News of the World and filmed the events with a hidden camera, she said she "was one of my closest friends before she betrayed me so horribly by going to the newspaper about Mike (Mr Mosley)".

Woman A described an earlier German prison scenario on March 8 as "hugely sexy and fun", and said she did not view it in any way as Nazi.

'Strong Nazi theme'

She denied she had told Woman E that the March 28 session, for which the five women were paid ?2,500 by Mr Mosley, would have a "very strong Nazi theme", or that "Mike" ordered one.

"I would not contemplate putting on such scenes which I would find distasteful and I would expect most people to be disgusted at the suggestion of a Nazi theme and respond similarly."

Woman A said the German theme arose after they heard Woman B speaking to Mr Mosley in German at a party at the beginning of the year.

"We said 'that's really sexy and horny and wouldn't it be great if we did a scenario like that', and then it went from there."

Shown a black and white striped top and trousers, and asked if this was the uniform she had purchased for the "prisoners", Woman A laughed out loud and said: "Is this the one? I'm not going to try it on."

She denied that the costumes - hired from a joke shop - had been intended to replicate concentration camp uniforms, as the newspaper suggested.

'Abhorrent'

Earlier Mr Mosley said that at no time did he or Woman A, who arranged "parties" like the one on March 28, ever use the word Nazi in their discussions.

He said that a Nazi theme would have been "abhorrent" to him.

Mr Mosley also denied the convict uniforms worn during the session had a Nazi theme.

He said: "Had I wanted a Nazi scene, I would have said I wanted one and A would have got some of the inexpensive Nazi stuff from the joke shop that provides uniforms and would not have gone to Marks and Spencer and got quite expensive jackets."

Mr Mosley told Mark Warby QC, for the News of the World, that the head-lice checking and shaving involved in the scenario was "the kind of thing these people do all the time".

He said: "I had never had lice-checking before but went with the flow. I didn't find it particularly erotic."

'Harsh-sounding'

Mr Mosley, the 68-year-old son of the 1930s Fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley, agreed that he had spoken in German during the session.

But he said this was not for any war-related reasons, but because it was a language that suited his dominant role.

He said: "German also somehow sounds appropriate for a bossy, dominant character. It is a harsh-sounding - rather than a romantic - language."

Mr Mosley says that his life was devastated by the News of the World story and is asking for an unprecedented award of punitive exemplary damages.

News Group Newspapers, which published the News of the World, is contesting the action, arguing that publication was justified in the public interest.
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7495604.stm

If the Nazi theme falls in court, then Max could continue to work as if nothing happened. :|
 
But the uniforms are so obvious on the tape...
 
But the uniforms are so obvious on the tape...

You can only see the black and white striped uniforms with horizontal stripes, I think the uniforms in concentration camps had vertical stripes. If this whole thing is actually fully made up by the News of the World, then Max deserves to have them tried.
 
Sure, they deserve it, but I'm not sure Max is telling the whole truth...
 
Mosley wins court case over orgy

World motorsport boss Max Mosley has won a legal action against a Sunday newspaper over claims an orgy he took part in had Nazi overtones.

The High Court ruled the News of the World did breach Mr Mosley's privacy, awarding him ?60,000 in damages.

Mr Justice Eady said he could expect privacy for consensual "sexual activities (albeit unconventional)".

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Score one for the good guys - no matter what you may think of Mosley and what he got up to, he deserved privacy (as would anyone in that situation).
 
Yep good. Now we can get back to calling for him to get sacked for relevant things, like being incompetant and biased.
 
And it continues...

Mosley launches libel suit against NoW

Friday, 25 July 2008 17:02

Max Mosley has launched libel proceedings against the News of the World over allegations made in its edition the week after its initial expose on his sex life.

The FIA president won his high-profile privacy case against the British tabloid on Thursday and was awarded ?60,000 damages and costs after the High Court ruled that his privacy had been breached when the newspaper revealed lurid details about his private life in March.

The verdict also refuted the newspaper?s claims that his activities with prostitutes had Nazi overtones.

Now just a day on from the conclusion of that case, Mosley?s solicitors Steeles Law have confirmed that the 68-year-old is suing the newspaper for defamation in relation to comments published in the edition seven days after the March 30 front-page expose.

?Max Mosley has today issued proceedings against the News of the World for libel,? a statement read.

?Following his successful privacy claim, and the attempts by the editor and staff of the News of the World to devalue the outcome of that claim, Mr Mosley will now be pursuing a claim for damages and aggravated damages in relation to defamatory allegations in the 6th April edition of the News of the World.?

The newspaper?s story on March 30 had claimed that Mosley had taken part in Nazi-themed role-playing during his involvement with prostitutes ? an allegation that the FIA president strenuously denied from the outset.

The News of the World?s April 6 edition then carried a leader column in which it said Mosley had lied when denying parts of its story, while also publishing a separate article concerning the dominatrix that filmed the orgy.

The news of Mosley's second legal action against the paper comes on the same day that the dominatrix ? known as Woman E in Mosley?s privacy case and who failed to give evidence as a defence witness for the News of the World in court ? said in an interview with Sky News that there had been no Nazi connotations to their activities.

"I know for a fact that it was spoken about that Max actually found it quite a turn-on to speak to them in German,? she told the broadcaster on Friday.

?He liked the German language. It was prison uniforms because we were doing a German prison scene. But it wasn't Nazi.?

She added that she had told the News of the World from the start that there had been no Nazi themes involved.

"I constantly told them that I didn't want to put my name to that," Woman E said. "I would never have said it was Nazi ? I would never have said he was a liar.

?There was lots in that second article that didn't come from me.

"I signed the article but I was put under massive pressure as I was told I would be put on the front cover and basically they would do a story on me anyway."

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Stewart: Mosley should resign

25 July 2008

Sir Jackie Stewart believes Max Mosley should resign as the president of motorsport's world governing body, the FIA. Stewart said that if Mosley were president of the Olympics he would have already been told to go.

"If Max were president of the Olympic movement, he would have been told to go," Stewart told press agency PA. "I don't see how he can justify staying on. The vote of confidence was not a large majority, and there were a number of people who did not vote.

"As for the motorsport community, there were very few people who were prepared to speak out, basically in fear of repercussions. That does not speak well of the organisation, and I feel Max should now step down and cut out of it totally.

"That's what puts a shadow over the FIA, that it is being allowed to occur when any other federation would not tolerate it. The FIA needs to be run by full-time, fully-paid executives, and completely re-structured to provide correct corporate governance that is totally transparent. If he were in any organisation, he would undoubtedly have had to leave, with influence from within.

"The FIA should have more knowledge of life than to allow this to continue, and that is what is showing up negatively against them."

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