JCE
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Ladies and gents some of you--no most of you--entirely missed the point of the Genesis. And thus missed the point of the thread. Why spend literally $10,000's more for a Merc, BMW, Audi or Lexus when you can get the same or more luxury features for less. PLUS, it has a great engine and goes like stink. Some of you who are brand snobs--well all of you actually--are just sad. Audi was a new kid on the block at one time and so was Lexus--now they are regarded in the same vein as Mercedes and BMW. Infiniti as well now has a certain amount of respect. Why does it matter that it isn't flashy? Jaguar and Audi have been building brillaint executive saloons for DECADES that were most certainly conservative--aka boring. Lexus is by no means exciting to look at either.
Newsflash, executive saloons are about the following:
Most people who buy an executive saloon do not care about the following:
It absolutely does not matter what it looks like on the outside boring or not. Hyundai is not selling this as a sport saloon, Hyundai is selling this as an alternative to the usual suspects while costing less. IT IS NOT A COMPROMISE BUYING A GENESIS OVER A MERC OR BMW. This car puts out Mercedes E550 numbers +\- straight and turning, has more interior volume than its competition and does all this while not costing you a bloody fortune. It outpaces the Chrysler 300C--which has a much larger displacement V8--as does the E550. Yet the Genesis 4.6 gets better gas mileage than both. The Lexus has similar size, space and kit yet is double the price. Audi, well as much as I love Audi, it cannot compete with the Genesis 4.6 saloon. BMW? Please, the idrive and dashboard alone are way too fiddly. Plus who wants to spend that much money on a BMW that isn't the ultimate driving machine. The 7-series isn't even the ultimate driving machine in its own country. In 10 or 15 years time no one will even question Hyundai's quality and automotive build quality.
You don't like the way it looks fine. You don't like the noise it makes fine. You somehow think it is unconfortable fine. You prefer to spend literally twice the price just to have a German or Jaguar badge fine. Somehow dismissing the fact that this car is a good car that is fantastic value for money is not or that it is somehow a North Korean communist Kim Jong Il box. That's just plain retarded.
No, I thought I'd introduce a good debatable subject. I'm not surprised that the brand snobbery extruded itself, I AM surprised at comments like they are junk, Hyundai's suck and it supports Kim Jong Il.
Thing is it took Hyundai less time to do a Luxury model than Toyota.
Says the man who drives a DODGE RAM PICKUP TRUCK.
Why, did you want to flame some people and continue to spout some brand snobbery?
That's a sad attitude. Its such a great car for the money.
Newsflash, executive saloons are about the following:
- Luxury
- Toys
- Comfort
- Relaxation
Most people who buy an executive saloon do not care about the following:
- Carbon footprint
- Gas mileage
- Stiff sporty suspension
It absolutely does not matter what it looks like on the outside boring or not. Hyundai is not selling this as a sport saloon, Hyundai is selling this as an alternative to the usual suspects while costing less. IT IS NOT A COMPROMISE BUYING A GENESIS OVER A MERC OR BMW. This car puts out Mercedes E550 numbers +\- straight and turning, has more interior volume than its competition and does all this while not costing you a bloody fortune. It outpaces the Chrysler 300C--which has a much larger displacement V8--as does the E550. Yet the Genesis 4.6 gets better gas mileage than both. The Lexus has similar size, space and kit yet is double the price. Audi, well as much as I love Audi, it cannot compete with the Genesis 4.6 saloon. BMW? Please, the idrive and dashboard alone are way too fiddly. Plus who wants to spend that much money on a BMW that isn't the ultimate driving machine. The 7-series isn't even the ultimate driving machine in its own country. In 10 or 15 years time no one will even question Hyundai's quality and automotive build quality.
You don't like the way it looks fine. You don't like the noise it makes fine. You somehow think it is unconfortable fine. You prefer to spend literally twice the price just to have a German or Jaguar badge fine. Somehow dismissing the fact that this car is a good car that is fantastic value for money is not or that it is somehow a North Korean communist Kim Jong Il box. That's just plain retarded.
What does Hyundai pay you?
No, I thought I'd introduce a good debatable subject. I'm not surprised that the brand snobbery extruded itself, I AM surprised at comments like they are junk, Hyundai's suck and it supports Kim Jong Il.
As others have noted, Toyota was in the same situation in 1989 when they launched the LS400.
It hasn't taken Hyundai as long to get to the same point... which is why Toyota execs say that the car company they most fear is Hyundai.
Thing is it took Hyundai less time to do a Luxury model than Toyota.
OW FOR GODS SAKE!
I't a hyundai....its crap bought by people who have absolutly no idea what a car is, how it works and how to drive it properly....why are we even having this discussion? nobody with 1 gram of petrolheadness in his body is ever gonna buy a hyundai, no matter how good (they claim) their latest box of plastic and drywallscrews is, it will never have something every car worth talking about must have : soul.
NEXT!
Says the man who drives a DODGE RAM PICKUP TRUCK.
It's a shame that this thread has descended into a civil discussion.
Why, did you want to flame some people and continue to spout some brand snobbery?
Everybody's such a fucking badge whore.
Including my mother.
"It's a Hyundai, no."
That's a sad attitude. Its such a great car for the money.