I really think some people can?t understand what?s going on with TOPGEAR.
I think some of us do understand.
What we have is a TV Show that has been growing up for these years. TG is now more mature. And the most important fact: Andy knows that if they keep doing the same format/shape in the program overall structure of the movies and reviews, people would get bored as well.
Or not, if it's done well.
I think that what happens is that some purists can?t accept the fact the program has to evolve.
I think you're wrong. Some of us so-called "purists" don't accept
how it is evolving.
That?s why Andy is the director executive producer of the program and not those that keep moaning about.
FTFY. And we're well aware of this.
Andy knows that if he kept the same structure all these years the show would get boring and no one would care about the car reviewings anymore. People would have started to compare Topgear to FifhGear. And, my God, in first place, why couldn?t people see that FifhGear had an all different approaching to car reviewing than TG? So, there has never been any reason for comparison on both shows.
(Fixed again.)
Fifth Gear was, essentially, the replacement for Old TG (1977-2001), after it got canceled. All the presenters and some others on 5G at inception were alums of old TG (namely Tiff and Vicki). Now, admittedly, I've not watched 5G (haven't really been bothered to check it out); but if what others who have done is anything to go on, it was aimed more toward an audience interested in reviews of more sensible cars (along with other stuff, perhaps?). It's only been in recent years that they've attempted to copy Current TG (2002-present).
Those who consider the new features, the new clips, all of this going wrong, they have to understand that it was really necessary and that?s why Andy keeps on modifying the show and those people just need to absorb new things. Not that was something wrong with old TG. Away from that. But the show had to keep walking and growing.
I do understand the rationale for trying something new (if you don't at least try something, how do you know whether or not it works?). It's when they attempt something that doesn't work well and they keep at it without any attempts at tweaking that it all goes wrong, or when they try to force the humour to happen because it's all a lost cause (see electric car film, 14x02).
And, please, don?t say the three blokes aren?t being themselves. They?re just car program presenters. They?re not actors. What they do is what they are. If you think all has been scripted it?s time to understand that they are so in tune one to another that the show works so well that you believe that everything is false. Give me a break.
I disagree with this completely.
There is a need for a script for a full episode or even a basic idea in regards to the individual films or car reviews. What a lot of us take issue with, mainly in regards to the films (and even, to some degree, the news segments) is that all the gags they try to pull off are too predictable (repeatedly bumping into/vandalizing James's car, for one) and too contrived.
So, please, stop being so rude about the new episodes.
If by "being so rude" you mean "criticizing", then no, I will not stop.
If you don?t like, leave it alone.
No, I will not leave it alone.
You?re not ready to understand the evolution of the best car program in the World.
Now that's just being condescending, not to mention insulting our intelligence -- something I don't take very kindly to.
That?s like Clarkson once interviewing a car designer about doing clinics on his new projects. The man just sad something like that: "I don?t take consideration on people?s oppinion because everything they can see is relative to what is on the market, to what is familiar, usual. To what is already PAST. People can?t see what?s is to come, what will be future." That?s the same to TopGear. Some people want it to be always the same.
I don't think that's entirely true.
MWF summed it up better...
If you'd read this thread properly and absorbed the fact that most of the serious posts are from long-term TG fans who are distressed at the dumbing down of the format and the fact that it feels rushed while those involved look tired and like they aren't enjoying it as much as usual.
Nor are any of suggesting for a moment that it isn't a phenomenal success. What some of us are feeling is that because of this success the very elements that made it such a great show are being stretched and diluted.
None of us hate TG. None of us want to see it canceled. Some of us just don't like the direction it's gone in, and that the crew and presenters are being stretched too thin with other projects and whathaveyou and need a breather.
Also, we have every right to express these concerns as others have the right to say they like what they're seeing. Please don't tell us to "leave it alone", "stop being so rude about it", that we don't understand its evolution (again, it's insulting to our intelligence), or even -- as I've seen written on Facebook -- to "shut up and enjoy it".