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Spectre said:
I'm going to say that sounds like BS. I am more inclined to believe that the truth of the matter is closer to Anthrax's reported story, simply because the Critical Massholes simply cannot have a demonstration that isn't marred by violence against car drivers in some way. They're ALL fucking psychotic and love to menace car drivers.

Case in point: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=450_1217109580

Some of it has been caught on tape, and in every one of those instances, the Critical Massholes started abusing and assaulting the car and the car operator without provocation.
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I wasn?t there, so I can?t say for sure.
Even still, the driver never claimed to have a patient and even if they threatened him, he was at a crossing: he could have chose to either go right, left or straight on. Sounds like he HAD the intention of hitting the cyclists.
 
Stuff like that is why I am seriously considering making the investment in those in-car camera surveillance systems - so that if something like that happens to me, there is no question of provocation or who started the assault at the inevitable trial.
 
I've only lived here for a few years, and even I know not to try and drive in San Francisco during Critical Mass unless I have to. *laughs* And when I have? The traffic has been not much worse than normal rush hour SF traffic.

And really..."without provocation"...I know there is a legal line there, but is the bike on the street provocation? The bikes not moving? The tailgating of the bikes by the car? The car honking? The first one to yell? The first one to insult/swear? The first threat, etc etc etc. While there are crazy hippies out there who would attack a car for no other reason than the interior being leather, a whole group surrounding a car seems unlikely. Not saying it couldn't happen, but moving the car with enough force to injur someone isn't going to make any friends.

Spectre said:
I am seriously considering making the investment in those in-car camera surveillance systems
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I'm with you there, but just because if idiotic drivers. :p
 
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You know, there is that invention called cycle paths... Probably that's why I never heard of that movement before here.
 
San Francisco already has cycle paths; indeed, they have dedicated cycle lanes.
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It's only made the Critical Massholes more militant.
 
MacGuffin said:
You know, there is that invention called cycle paths... Probably that's why I never heard of that movement before here.
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The cycle paths here a a JOKE.
From the top of my head, I can think of 3 people killed and 2 others badly injured by asshole drivers that hit them IN THE DAMN CYCLE PATH.
I despise those "Critical Mass" guys, but some of the things they fight for I can relate.
 
Spectre said:
Stuff like that is why I am seriously considering making the investment in those in-car camera surveillance systems - so that if something like that happens to me, there is no question of provocation or who started the assault at the inevitable trial.
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I'm not disputing the fact that the cyclists may very well have started provoking - but are you really suggesting that that justifies what he did?

And in this context, it doesn't really matter whether they're assholes or not. There's reacting, and there's over-reacting.
 
People take their 'right' to do 'things' alittle to far. Did the guy have a right to plow through a bunch of innocents? No. Do members of the Critical Mass 'collective' have the right to intentionally delay me from getting here I need to go? No. I ride a motorcycle and yes people get annoyed when I lane split or filter. Do I slow people from getting where they need to go? No. Have I had people try to block me in? Yes. My reaction was to dodge around the other side. Have I booted a car door? Yes, when I deemed my life was at risk by an idiot. Have I participated in a protest? Yes! We all rode down the Eastern Freeway obeying every letter of the law.

My question is, are the Critical Mass cyclists obeying the law by blocking a throughfare? Were the authorities notified before the protest took place? From the videos It didn't look to be escorted as the traffic appeared to be held up purely by the persons on bikes, not by the authorities as protests are usually followed by law enforcement to make sure this doesn't happen.

Did those people deserve to be hit? Hell no! Did the Critical Mass organisers put those people at a higher level of risk if the protest was not properly held? Hell yes! I think the driver of the car should be thrown in jail for a long time and the organisers should be in some way reprimanded if possible by the laws of that country.
 
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Just from a technical standpoint, going through the mob quicker was probably better for the cyclists, he basically catapulted them away, if he went slower he probably went over them instead.
Nevertheless, I don't support running people over, but neither do I support ecoterrorists. And negrepping me for that video is a weak move, Ice.
 
Well, you just posted that video as a source of amusement. I don't like ecoterrorists either, but there's better ways of dealing with them than ploughing through them with a tonne of metal. Especially if some of them are as cute as the blonde one in the start of the vid.
 
IceBone said:
Well, you just posted that video as a source of amusement. I don't like ecoterrorists either, but there's better ways of dealing with them than ploughing through them with a tonne of metal. Especially if some of them are as cute as the blonde one in the start of the vid.
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Wait, wait, wait, there was a cute blonde girl?! That changes my whole entire stance on this issue!
 
On the whole bike mess....

If you're a group of roadusers that are already despised by most others the smart thing to do might not be to start blocking traffic 'to prove a point' in a city wich apparantly already has massive congestion and roadrage/stress problems.

Another dumb thing to do is to start provoking and assaulting cardrivers after they comment on you're ultra irritating pointless ecomoron behaviour....
You know what? In those conditions sometimes people get irritated, feel threatened, snap, have a real emergency to get to, whatever the case was here, and then they slam on the accelerator and 'solve the problem' not thinking about the consequenses.

All joking aside, I wish harm on no one, not even cyclists, but if you start pulling acts of intense stupidity and complete contempt for motorists like this don't be surprised when they fight back.
 
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they took off his wing so he decided to go out in a blaze of glory :lol:

 
This deserves to be shown here:

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