The Aviation Thread [Contains Lots of Awesome Pictures]

Huh...did not realize John McCain was involved in that.
 
Lotta heroes that day.
 
Lotta heroes that day.
I don't want to dishonor their memory, but being killed in an accident while serving one's country is both tragic and a horrible waste of life, but a hero it does not make.

Lacking a proper distinction between the horrible losses of that day and heroes, I'll use an example: When Odysseus is at Scherie and hears the blind bard Demodocus perform a song about the troyan war, he starts to weep. Asked why this story touched him so much, he is forced to reveal his identity: "I am Odysseus".

Or, on a less metaphorical note, watch Clarkson's Victoria Cross for Valour or Greatest Raid of them all documentaries. These soldiers, no matter if they survived or not, were heroes. A man who died serving his country was a brave man, no matter what circumstance he died in. But he's not automatically a hero.
That devaluates true acts of heroism.

EDIT: I am not questioning that some of the acts of firefighting soldiers that day were true acts of heroism. That goes without question.
 
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The flight school I went to in the 90's sent every graduating student, past and present, a set of school wings back in 2009. I thought it was a very nice gesture. Here are mine:

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Saw the Rockwell B-1 Lancer for the first time in Transformers 2 today

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I don't want to dishonor their memory, but being killed in an accident while serving one's country is both tragic and a horrible waste of life, but a hero it does not make.

I didn't say everyone who died was automatically a hero... :rolleyes:

I was more talking about the folks who sacrificed themselves in order to save the ship and their comrades (firefighters, etc.).
 
A better day for the USA:
[video=youtube;f25-FnGkiwo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25-FnGkiwo&feature=related[/video]​

The "Doolittle Raid" on Tokio, taking off in 1942 from "Shangri-La". (FDR joke)

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1960s: Apollo

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Circa 2020s: Orion

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I guess if it works...

RIP Shuttle. :(
 
Launch is probably gonna get scrubbed tomorrow. Which is really pissing me off since the next available launch date is 7/16 and I leave Florida for a vacation back home on 7/15. :(
 
RIP Shuttle. :(

The more I read about the politics about how the Shuttle came to be and how the USAF got to dictate requirements it never used to NASA the more I am surprised we wasted so much time and money on the stupid thing. NASA would of been better off if it ditched it a decade ago.
 
Lockheed C-121C, Southern Switzerland:

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Nelson Piquet vs. F-104S Starfighter:

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Lockheed C-121C, Southern Switzerland:

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Nelson Piquet vs. F-104S Starfighter:

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:love: Connies & F-104s too.

History

London Airport - Heathrow 1949


[video=youtube;Kc-fCAToACo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc-fCAToACo[/video]​

(Including Connies and TENTS for Terminal buildings, no really, canvas, flapping about in the rain, ex-military TENTS - like a MASH episode.)

Cute, quaint old video though.

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