Covid 19 CRISIS

CraigB said:
They update everyday at 2 pm, but I was working late today at the track.

838 cases, up 168 again. That seems odd...
Deaths are up one again to 10.
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Are they testing 168 people each day?



In Norway the official numbers are 4107 infected 314 are in hospital and 25 have died.
We are testing a lot, but now we are about to start doing what Iceland has recently started doing and that is to test healthy people to see how many of those who have shown no symptoms are infected
 
TobiasG said:
Are they testing 168 people each day?



In Norway the official numbers are 4107 infected 314 are in hospital and 25 have died.
We are testing a lot, but now we are about to start doing what Iceland has recently started doing and that is to test healthy people to see how many of those who have shown no symptoms are infected
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Very well could be the case. I'll be interested what today's numbers are.
 
We are still at 94% negative tests which means that we probably are relatively close to the real number of cases.
 
Dr_Grip said:
We are still at 94% negative tests which means that we probably are relatively close to the real number of cases.
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That's the question, what this really means... The daily volume of tests has almost tripled in the Czech Republic during this week, but the percentage of the positive results has been fluctuating between 5.6% and 7.2%, without any clear decreasing tendency. I wonder if this doesn't just mean that this is roughly the percentage of positive cases in the population...
 
H0nzik said:
That's the question, what this really means... The daily volume of tests has almost tripled in the Czech Republic during this week, but the percentage of the positive results has been fluctuating between 5.6% and 7.2%, without any clear decreasing tendency. I wonder if this doesn't just mean that this is roughly the percentage of positive cases in the population...
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Probably yes. The infection spreads at about the same speed as the testing is ramped up.
 
Telegraph still thinks maximum damage is a strategy!
Herd immunity is the only way out of this impasse
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/herd-immunity-way-impasse/


Michael Gove appears to blame China over lack of UK coronavirus testing
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https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ame-china-over-lack-of-uk-coronavirus-testing


Many European countries are getting supplies from China, some getting daily filghts. Have been some reports of crap quality but they are getting shipments.

I thought Trump lifted his tariffs on medical gear in early March?

 
We'll China also assured the WHO in January that the virus was contained and couldn't be transmitted person-to-person. It's idiotic to try and blame this on the west while pretending that China is holy - this entire situation is clearly China's fault.
 
LeVeL said:
We'll China also assured the WHO in January that the virus was contained and couldn't be transmitted person-to-person. It's idiotic to try and blame this on the west while pretending that China is holy - this entire situation is clearly China's fault.
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Bull shit! We got warnings from the intelligence community and they were ignored. We knew China was distorting the situation and failed to react in a way that would protect us from the inevitable outcome. While we were never going to be completely free of this, it is so much worse than it needed to be.
 
LeVeL said:
We'll China also assured the WHO in January that the virus was contained and couldn't be transmitted person-to-person. It's idiotic to try and blame this on the west while pretending that China is holy - this entire situation is clearly China's fault.
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Too many countries were slow to act. Then there the case of the US, Trump deliberately ignoring intelligence briefing from Janruary on and all he can to impede and create chaos in the response. Until there is testing for all who need it, contact tracing and isolation of infected, not a chance of getting back to normal.


Wish more countries listened to Dr Ryan of the WHO -

"If you need to be right before you move - you will never win. Perfection is the enemy of the good when it comes to emergency management. Speed trumps perfection, and the problem in society we have at the moment is everyone is afraid of making a mistake - everyone is afraid of the consequence of error. But the greatest error is not to move. The greatest error is to be paralyzed by the fear of failure" - World Health Organization health emergencies programme executive director Dr. Mike Ryan
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Not wearing masks to protect against coronavirus is a ‘big mistake,’ top Chinese scientist says

Science has tried to interview George Gao, director-general of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for 2 months. Last week he responded.
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https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...avirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says


Testing the Efficacy of Homemade Masks: Would They Protect in an Influenza Pandemic?
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https://www.researchgate.net/public...s_Would_They_Protect_in_an_Influenza_Pandemic


Coronavirus Eye Safety

Experts say guarding your eyes — as well as your hands and mouth — can slow the spread of coronavirus.
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https://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/coronavirus-covid19-eye-infection-pinkeye
 
There have been a lot of companies here donating equipment and/or designing new equipment (faster and faster test kits, cheap ventilators, different kinds of masks, etc). The free market has truly risen to the occasion.
 
^ The free market is also why we are haggling over the rent of a vacant hospital (and why the city can't afford it, so it will sit vacant), why a company making cheap ventilators was bought out by a major medical manufacturer to protect their market share, and why we are seeing delays due to haggling over those very tests.

Our free market in the US is one of the reasons we have the most reported COVID cases in the world and our curve is not flattening. It's why our politicians want to sacrifice people's lives for stock gains, and Trump's reluctance to actually use the Defense Production Act is entirely because he doesn't want to annoy his CEO buddies. In the mean time, he boasting about his fucking TV ratings.

And don't even start with me about not bringing up politics, you don't get to dogwhistle that "free market" shit in the middle of a disaster and expect not to get called on it.

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Meanwhile:

We're under a stay at home order now, but it's only be county and has a ton of exemptions. We've also had two more deaths, one was a local rich guy who owned a car dealership group, the other is a 24 year old.

Our governor should have locked the state down a week ago, but he's too spineless to make a decision.
 
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Can you please keep your "who is to blame" (China!)/"who will save us" (the free market!) grandstanding to the political section @LeVeL ?
 
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