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Australia has bosses and a government? :blink:
 
A lot of Americans talk out of their noses and have ugly voices.

This coming from an Australian? :lol:

:lol: So awfully true...

New Zealand is worse, though!:mrgreen:

Yes, but they do have one hell of a country, so I can forgive them for calling shopping trolleys 'trundlers'.

Australians can't make movies (or tv shows) for shit.

Again, so true - with the exception of some comedy gold like The Castle, Kenny etc, it's all really quite embarrassing.
 
It's a useful weapon of war.

Actually, the piece of crap cluster bombs you guys have is a waste of explosives, to a great extent, the offical figures are 70 % efficency or something, but when tested by independent organs, they were anywhere between 40 and 20 %.

That is really poor, and the stuff stays on the ground for ages blowing up kids.
 
Actually, the piece of crap cluster bombs you guys have is a waste of explosives, to a great extent, the offical figures are 70 % efficency or something, but when tested by independent organs, they were anywhere between 40 and 20 %.

That is really poor, and the stuff stays on the ground for ages blowing up kids.

The CBU-97 is actually quite advanced.

Created by Textron Ind. the CBU-97 is a United States Air Force 1,000 pound (450 kg) class non-guided (freefall) cluster bomb, hence the name CBU (Cluster Bomb Unit).

The CBU-97 contains 10 BLU108-66/B tactical munitions dispensers (TMD), which each contain 4 hockey puck shaped sensor-fused submunitions (called skeets) that automatically fire an explosively formed projectile at the first heat source they find. Each of the 40 warheads scans an area of 30 acres using infrared and laser sensors until it either finds a target or falls to the ground, in which case it will detonate itself so as to leave a "clean" battlefield. The skeets are able to track moving targets and can tell the difference between tanks and jeeps.

As the bomb approaches the target, airbag-like bags inflate to not only break away the external skin of the bomb but to push out the 10 submunitions, scattering the payload to more effectively cover the target area. Once these 10 submunitions are away, they each deploy a parachute to orient them vertically so that they function properly. When a predetermined height is reached, the parachute detaches and a rocket motor fires, stopping the descent and stabilizing the submunition via spinning. The centrifugal force from this spinning ejects 4 smart warheads. Each warhead is also spinning after it is ejected. This is intentional because it makes it easy for the laser to scan the ground in a circular fashion for any changes in height such as the distinctive contour of a vehicle. At the same time, infrared sensors seek heat signatures, such as those emitted by the hot engine of a target vehicle. The skeet finally detonates, firing a self forging fragment into the target vehicle at high speed, enabling it to penetrate armor plating and destroy what is underneath the armor plating.

The CBU-97 is very effective against groups of vehicles such as tanks and support vehicles. Each CBU-97 can cover an area of about 500 feet by 1,200 feet (150 by 370 m).

Test results indicate that CBU-97 submunitions have a propensity to cluster and that impact patterns are unevenly distributed. This is contrary to the uniform distribution assumption employed in the Joint Munitions Effectiveness Manual (JMEM). Because of the clustering effect, it appears that JMEM overestimates damage and more weapons may be required to destroy the target than predicted.

The weapon is deployed by US Air Force tactical aircraft from altitudes between 200 feet (60 m) Above Ground Level (AGL) to 20,000 feet (6100 m) Mean Sea Level (MSL) at speeds between 250 to 650 knots.

The CBU-97 was first deployed during Operation Allied Force when the United States and NATO entered the Kosovo War, but were not used. Sensor-fused weapons were first fired in combat years later during the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

When the CBU-97 is used in conjunction with the Wind Corrected Munition Dispenser guidance tailkit, it is designated as CBU-105.

The CBU-97 was also featured on the television show Future Weapons in the 2006 season.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBU-97

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I love those things. They are now talking about mounting the Skeet portion in small UAV aircraft that will fly around and actively search for targets. Each small UAV will be able to carry three charges and is capable of being deployed from any aircraft that currently carries bombs.
 
Quite advanced indeed with those lasers and infrared stuff and all. Not advanced enough though, seeing the 100.000 (!) submunition bombs littered over civil areas in Lebanon.
 
It might be advanced, but a large part of them don't go off. So, it's several pieces of crap.

If you have a satelite guided delivery system for throwing eggs on a political opponent, it would be advanced. But to be honest, no weapon system with the fault ratio of the cluster bombs, is faulty.

And the litter stays around for years, as hard to find as land mines, killing civilians.
 
Nomix, just stop, you don't understand the weapons and their use.

As for CyberMonkey:

It seems that the cluster bombs that Israel was using were quite old and prone to malfunction.
 
I don't understand? Yes, I do understand the use. They are a great in theory for punching out large units, and other stuff, but the fact is, it's faulty, it wastes A LOT of ammunition, what in h*ll is it you don't get about that?

It IS a faulty system, get over it.
 
I don't understand? Yes, I do understand the use. They are a great in theory for punching out large units, and other stuff, but the fact is, it's faulty, it wastes A LOT of ammunition, what in h*ll is it you don't get about that?

It IS a faulty system, get over it.

Which specific system?
 
The cluster bomb. As far I can tell, there is no type of cluster bomb with better efficiency than about 60%. And those used in the Middle East by yanks, brits and Israel has even worse rates.

It is a faulty system. It leaves explosives around.
 
The cluster bomb. As far I can tell, there is no type of cluster bomb with better efficiency than about 60%. And those used in the Middle East by yanks, brits and Israel has even worse rates.

It is a faulty system. It leaves explosives around.

If you can come up with a better system that performs the same task then go right ahead. Until then this is a weapon of war and as such there will be causalities but even so it is still useful. Lets say there is a situation in which a weapon such as this would be useful but they are not available, this brings more risk to the soldier.
 
Yes, land mines are allso useful. So is napalm. And so is hollow points.

But there must be limitations.
 
Yes, land mines are allso useful. So is napalm. And so is hollow points.

And that is why they are used in one capacity or another.
 
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