Writers strike

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What are your thoughts on this? A lot of shows have halted production, networks are reworking their schedules. I've heard that the staff of Conan and Leno may be laid off soon, and they are going to cross the picket.

I support the strike, even though i'm worried about my shows. The main issue seems to have to do with residuals from dvds and online streaming. Apparently writers/actors get paid nothing when networks stream content online and have advertisers buy space. And since a lot of shows don't air repeats anymore, it seems to hurt them even more.

Writers/Actors of the US "The Office" on strike...

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=b6hqP0c0_gw[/youtube]
 
I don't support the strike because if they signed the contract to write the shows in the first place they should well write the shows.
 
I think it is a legit issue, but I understand that they do not have hard figures to clearly state how much can be distributed. I do think there is a way to setup a graduated plan, but I am not smart enough on allof this to say much more than that.

Hopefully it ends soon... I am scared of what sort of BS they are going to come up with as filler!
 
I don't support the strike because if they signed the contract to write the shows in the first place they should well write the shows.


No. Their 3-year contract ran out a few days ago. And when they are re-negotiating the new contract, the two sides failed to reach an agreement.

I am in support of the strike unless someone can come up with a logical and solid rebuttal.
 
Bah, good riddance.

I see two sides here:

The Writers
You have to be pretty dim-witted to think that you can account for all "Internet views" of content containing your writing. It's just not possible. Whatever happened to creating a "custom project" and selling it? It really smacks of greed to think you can make something once and make residuals on it forever (or near as makes no difference).

Hollywood
It's not like Hollywood is trying, however. They've been jerking everyone around since their beginning. Good riddance to them, I hope this does them in.
 
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Bah, good riddance.

I see two sides here:

The Writers
You have to be pretty dim-witted to think that you can account for all "Internet views" of content containing your writing. It's just not possible. Whatever happened to creating a "custom project" and selling it? It really smacks of greed to think you can make something once and make residuals on it forever (or near as makes no difference).

Hollywood
It's not like Hollywood is trying, however. They've been jerking everyone around since their beginning. Good riddance to them, I hope this does them in.

I don't believe "views" have anything to do with it, networks are still getting paid. And it's not only streaming, but downloads etc. The cvrefugee posted explains better.

And I don't think it's greedy to expect to be paid for the work you've done, especially when it's such a small portion of what is being made. Or once a show or movie is made and aired once, it should be free for everyone (even for advertisers) after that?

And regarding Hollywood..."Good riddance to them, I hope this does them in"....I don't quite understand that sentiment.
 
On the one hand it makes sense. TV shows are reaching a far larger audience nowadays due to DVDs and the internet... so you think these writers deserve some more compensation.

But on the other hand most of them are pretty useless and come up with some right shit. More than half of what is on TV is garbage.
 
All I can say is, give them the fucking money! 24 has been delayed! MOTHERFUCKERS!
 
^ Perfect example are the 24 writers. If there's anyone who doesn't deserve more money it's them. :lol:

I kept up until this season but by God, it's become such a farce.
 
I don't support the strike because if they signed the contract to write the shows in the first place they should well write the shows.

Not true, they waited to initiate the strike after the screenwriters guild contract expired, so they can legally renegotiate their contract without violating their current one, so no legal action can be taken against them. Common labor union tactic.

Hopefully it ends soon... I am scared of what sort of BS they are going to come up with as filler!


You and i both know its unfortunately going to be more reality tv garbage.
 
Writers sure deserve more profit from DVD & Online distribution, but both writers & producers are at this point ignorant idiots.

Yes, they are fighting for their rights, blah blah blah, at the same time ppl who work on television shows are jobless. Sure it's maybe not entirely fair, that they make only 200k a year, but writers probably have enough savings to strike for a year or so, but what about every1 else?

Viewers have almost nothing to watch, in January 99% of shows will stop, simply because they'll run out of episodes, then what? They say, that live unscripted tv or reality tv will replace all the shows, so we all know what's coming.
Eventualy they will end up with a MASSIVLEY popular reality show, featuring a guy screwing his sister, live, on a stage in front of Simon Cowell.
 
Not true, they waited to initiate the strike after the screenwriters guild contract expired, so they can legally renegotiate their contract without violating their current one, so no legal action can be taken against them. Common labor union tactic.

So following the law is now a "tactic", eh? I think the writers are well withing their rights to strike over this. Money is already being made on downloads and streaming, they just want a cut of it (makes sense, seeing as how they wrote the shows and all). There's no BS like having to count how many times a show is watched or downloaded, either (not that it'd be hard to count), just "You guys made $X million this quarter from selling my show and advertising during it, so I want a percentage of that $X million."

Seems like a reasonable request to me.
 
CBS plans on brining Big Brother 9 in February (instead of the usual summer run, but they may have season 10 run in summer).

True, the last season of 24 sucked. But the upcoming season sounds promising with a change of location.
 
This was posted by a friend of mine from a tv board I post on...

Strike Chart: How Long Before Your Shows Go Dark?

There seems to be little doubt that the writers' strike will result in a shorter TV season, but just how short are we talking? Well, as you might've guessed, it varies from show to show. Those programs that are either highly efficient (Friday Night Lights) or have entered the season with a backlog of episodes (Men in Trees, Law & Order: SVU) will be in originals well into the new year. But series with tighter production schedules (i.e., nearly every half-hour comedy) will go dark almost immediately. Of course, figuring out how many episodes remain in your favorite shows' arsenals requires a lot of numbers crunching ? and as I've come to learn, the only thing you Ausholes despise more than a Wednesday without AA is mathematics. With that in mind, I pulled together this incredibly handy (and 85 percent complete) cheat sheet. Keep in mind: The information below is subject to change, particularly if both sides get back to the bargaining table and resolve this frakkin' thing!

30 Rock: Ten episodes will be produced. Five episodes have aired, so there are five left.

Back to You: Nine episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are three left.

Bionic Woman: Roughly nine episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are three left.

Bones: Twelve episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are six left.

Boston Legal: Fifteen episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are nine left.

Brothers & Sisters: Twelve episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are six left.

Chuck: Thirteen episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are six left.

CSI: NY: Fourteen episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are seven left.

Desperate Housewives: Ten episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are four left.

Dirty Sexy Money: Eleven episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are five left.

Friday Night Lights: Fifteen episodes will be produced. The sixth episode airs tonight, Nov. 9, so there are nine left.

Gossip Girl: Thirteen episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are six left.

Grey's Anatomy: Eleven episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are four left.

Heroes: Twelve episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are five left.

House: Twelve episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are six left.

Jericho: Seven episodes will be produced. None have aired yet, so there are seven episodes left.

Law & Order: SVU: Fourteen episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are eight left.

Lost: Eight episodes will be produced. None have aired yet, so there are eight episodes left.

Medium: Nine episodes will be produced. None have aired yet, so there are nine episodes left.

Men in Trees: Nineteen episodes will be produced. The fifth episode airs tonight, Nov. 9, so there are 14 left.

Numbers: Twelve episodes will be produced. The seventh episodes airs tonight, Nov. 9, so there are five left.

One Tree Hill: Twelve episodes will be produced. None have aired yet, so there are twelve episodes left.

The Office: Twelve half-hour episodes will be produced. Eleven half-hour episodes have aired, so there is one half-hour episode left.

Prison Break: Thirteen episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are six left.

Private Practice: Ten or 11 episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are four or five left.

Pushing Daisies: Nine episodes will be produced. Five episodes have aired, so there are four left.

Reaper: Ten to 12 episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are three to five left.

Samantha Who?: Twelve episodes will be produced. Four episodes have aired, so there are eight left.

Scrubs: Twelve episodes will be produced. Three episodes have aired, so there are nine left.

Shark: Eleven episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are five left.

Smallville: Fifteen episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are eight left.

Supernatural: Ten to 12 episodes will be produced. Six episodes have aired, so there are four to six left.

Ugly Betty: Twelve or 13 episodes will be produced. Seven episodes have aired, so there are five or six left.

? If your favorite show isn't included above, don't panic ? it's not because I hate you. It's because I'm still trying to track down the info. As soon as I get it, I'll add it to the list.
 
wow, thats some short seasons for some... Who knows how long it will last. Maybe its over quick and we get a couple more...
But really, this must be disastrous for the TV stations. You simply can't sell 9 ep boxsets as a series... Also tons of ad money will be lost... I reckon if they just give them twice the money they'd save in the end...
 
I think that's just what they have ready right now, they still need to write/produce the rest....so the seasons will air in full, just not sure how long it will take.
 
Well, there have been rumors of last minute changes for stuff like Heros, which would have a short season and return with a full one next year... So, I doubt that all the shows will eventually get the 24 eps per season.
 
Well the good thing is most shows would normally be taking their Christmas break right around now, so if the strike ends quickly it might not be that disruptive.

And what's going on with 24? New locale you say?
 
Well the good thing is most shows would normally be taking their Christmas break right around now, so if the strike ends quickly it might not be that disruptive.

And what's going on with 24? New locale you say?

The premise seems to be that Jack is on trial for his "crimes" in Washington DC...Then some shit will happen I suppose. Tony Almeida is due back as well.
 
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