scowy
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I voted RS6 but it would've been nice if the Jaguar XF-R had been included too.
I wouldn't bet on the CTS-V being that cheap. The CTS isn't as much of a performance bargain as some expect it to be.
Price-wise, the base direct-injection CTS costs about 4 grand more than the base Infiniti G and 3 grand less than the base 335i sedan. In term of acceleration, it's .6 seconds slower to 60mph than the Infiniti and 1 second slower than the 335 sedan*. The CTS only barely beats out the BMW 328i sedan from 0-60, and the BMW is well below the CTS in both power and torque.
But the cost is the part that's interesting. I recently went to a dealership and most of the CTS available were the AWD+luxury packages ($45K) or the fully specced direct-injection models ($47K). That's quite a bit of money, for a comparison, the 335i sedan when fully specced (that includes crap like active steering and active cruise control) costs only $3K more.
The previous generation CTS and CTS-V had a price gap of ~$10K between the highest CTS and base CTS-V. And there seems to be more modifications between the new CTS and CTS-V, than between the previous ones. Chances are that you won't be able to get the new CTS-V for less than $60K. With some options it may get pretty expensive.
*times were taken from a C/D comparison
The CTS isn't a 3 series sized car, it's a 5 series competitor at least based on size. Comparing to the 3 series is therefor rather pointless.
Wouldn't choose rs6 because it's front wheel drive and I'm sorry for cadillac but since I'm european I wouldn't never buy a american car!!! For me american cars have high consumption a don't use all the power that the engine are able to give!!!
Wouldn't choose rs6 because it's front wheel drive and I'm sorry for cadillac but since I'm european I wouldn't never buy a american car!!! For me american cars have high consumption a don't use all the power that the engine are able to give!!!
You seem very agitated about this.
Yep me too, and I agree on the XF. I know the Audi is oldish, I just like it.I voted RS6 but it would've been nice if the Jaguar XF-R had been included too.
I think some European snob didn't bother looking at the numbers before he ran his mouth.
I have no problem with someone saying "I like X better just because." I have a real problem with someone saying "I like X better because of reason Y" and Y turns out to be something they pulled out of their rectum.
And before I get slammed for being "an ignorant Uhmerikun firster", take a good look at my signature. I don't actually own any American cars. Two out of my three come from Europe.
I mean, if he'd said something about "American cars are traditionally built like crap, so I'd avoid the CTS because of that," I'd have had to agree... but saying that the M5 is more efficient? Erm, no.
Wouldn't choose rs6 because it's front wheel drive
The new CTS-V isn't out quite yet either, and that's not kept it out of here.
No, the XF is a 5-series/E-class competitor.
Yes but they've built a CTS-V, the XF-R is still a test mule, they have an engine that chucks out 500BHP+ that going in the XK and I would guess the XF-R. Don't write of Jaguar yet. also, why do you hate the new Jaguars? Is is because they don't look old-fashioned and traditionally "British"?
M5 - excellent handling, but really fragile. Also, iDrive.
Though between mercedes and bmw the choice is difficult for me bimmer... rear wheel drive, awesome engine... on looks thats not cool!!!
Wouldn't choose rs6 because it's front wheel drive and I'm sorry for cadillac but since I'm european I wouldn't never buy a american car!!! For me american cars have high consumption a don't use all the power that the engine are able to give!!!
Yes but they've built a CTS-V, the XF-R is still a test mule, they have an engine that chucks out 500BHP+ that going in the XK and I would guess the XF-R. Don't write of Jaguar yet. also, why do you hate the new Jaguars? Is is because they don't look old-fashioned and traditionally "British"?
So, apparently, you're also an idiot in addition to being a European?
People still having a cry about iDrive, it's really not that bad anymore (yes when it debuted in the 7 series it was pretty awful but these days it's pretty good)
Though between mercedes and bmw the choice is difficult for me bimmer... rear wheel drive, awesome engine... on looks thats not cool!!!
Wouldn't choose rs6 because it's front wheel drive and I'm sorry for cadillac but since I'm european I wouldn't never buy a american car!!! For me american cars have high consumption a don't use all the power that the engine are able to give!!!
I need a good laugh. BTW, I thought the m5 couldn't use all the power it made, a Porsche with 2/3rds the power was able to out pace it.