okay... I need a little help on AS Cadet, I suck at it

andyhui01 · September 26th, 2005, 03:13 PM

I'm having huge problems with finding braking points and racing lines for the AS cadet track + handling the chicane consistantly... here's a SPR of it... please take a look and leave comments images/smilies/biggrin.gif

s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3TK1IO8KY4WED03TVSM7G0UZBO

pdanev · September 26th, 2005, 05:33 PM

mmm, lotsa room for improvement images/smilies/smile.gif

Well in general, dont be afraid to push it!!! compared to real life, you wont get hurt in a crash images/smilies/wink.gif

You seem to be very gentle with your driving. give it more throttel at exits, slam those brakes harder and brake later (you seem to brake way to early everywhere), and make those movements on the steering wheel a bit sharper.

Also use the whole track, you seem to go a lot of times 1 car width away from the track side, use the whole width of the track both on entry and exit.

And what's with the 3rd gear in the down/up chicane at the end? images/smilies/tongue.gif

You go full throttle, lift of a tiny bit before entry, make a harsh movement on the steering wheel, and FULL throttle on exit (you can back off a bit at the exit if you see that you will rine very wide). Don't cut in the middle, because you'll pick up sand with your right tires which will lead to a shitty braking in the corner afterwards.

Make those tires scream, I didnt hear a single noise from your tires while you were racing. No need to take it easy in a hotlap images/smilies/wink.gif

Oh, and warm up those tires before racing. Do a few donuts, make a really harsh movement on the wheel so that the car will understeer, hence warming up the front tires as well. Just get them up to temperature, but dont make them all dark green. Just light green on the inside and the outside.

BTW, dunno which setup you use, hit me up on msn and i'll send it over.

Buba · September 26th, 2005, 05:54 PM

Pedal to the metal through the chicane... I start to turn in when I see the 3 black and white poles...
That at least one sec accounted for...
Pdanev told you the rest anyway... Ex WR holder, I belive??? images/smilies/wink.gif

Buba

pdanev · September 26th, 2005, 06:23 PM

nah, iirc i was 2nd on aston till i got overtaken by "arrechee" (sp?), since that stable 3rd images/smilies/smile.gif

pdanev · September 26th, 2005, 10:34 PM

Forgot to mention one thing. Andy, when you brake, don't let off the throttle completely, keep it at a minimal level, just to keep the revs up, otherwise, with this setup wich uses clutch diff, the revs fall immediately. Even under very heavy braking, dont let off the accelerator 100%.

andyhui01 · September 27th, 2005, 04:54 AM

alright... thx for the tips pdanev, gonna give them a shot again images/smilies/biggrin.gif

... I'm using a cadet setup that mancs gave me, should be alright

andyhui01 · September 27th, 2005, 05:26 AM

I managed to get my time down to 1:00.5... its on the lfsworld site images/smilies/biggrin.gif

... gna keep practicing images/smilies/biggrin.gif

pdanev · September 27th, 2005, 10:35 AM

i think he moded that a bit. anyway, here's what i use
http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...N3PV9N2RD6HIUM

andyhui01 · September 27th, 2005, 02:40 PM

I'm <1min now images/smilies/biggrin.gif

... at least I'm on the first page of the hotlap board images/smilies/lol.gif

... thx for the tip guys, but I don't know where to get the remaining 2seconds from? images/smilies/sad.gif

pdanev · September 27th, 2005, 03:26 PM

if you can lap constantl <1:00min times that should be competitive enough images/smilies/wink.gif

MXM · September 27th, 2005, 04:28 PM

I can do middle 59 constantly, VERY rarely low 59. I did 58 only 3 or 4 times. So you can compete with me images/smilies/smile.gif

Buba · September 27th, 2005, 05:04 PM

Below 1:00 is really good... You don't have much to do except driving, I suspect??

Buba

pdanev · September 27th, 2005, 05:53 PM

yep, below 1min is ok for racing, usually i can clock low 58s in hotlap, high58s in a race, but overtaking on aston cadet with rb4/fxo/t cars is really hard, so you would have to be 3-4seconds slower so that a person racing 58s can easily overtake you. as long as you lap <1min, meaning ~1s slower per lap, it will be really hard for 58s people to overtake you

andyhui01 · September 28th, 2005, 01:34 AM

alright... thx alot pdanev... and yes BUba, I'm on holiday now so I sat my ass down for like 3 hours straight hotlapping images/smilies/biggrin.gif

... my consistent time is very low 1min... once awhile I'll get high 59's

pdanev · September 28th, 2005, 01:39 AM

MXM managed to run lfs analyzer with s2 tonight so contrary to my belief and previous attempts, the old analyzer apperantly does work with s2! Will try that tomorrow again, and if I suceed in running it i'll post some screenshots of where you loose time (if not, i'll bug mxm to explain me how he ran analyzer on s2 images/smilies/tongue.gif

).

Z3R0 117 · September 28th, 2005, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdanev

mmm, lotsa room for improvement images/smilies/smile.gif

Well in general, dont be afraid to push it!!! compared to real life, you wont get hurt in a crash images/smilies/wink.gif

You seem to be very gentle with your driving. give it more throttel at exits, slam those brakes harder and brake later (you seem to brake way to early everywhere), and make those movements on the steering wheel a bit sharper.

Also use the whole track, you seem to go a lot of times 1 car width away from the track side, use the whole width of the track both on entry and exit.

And what's with the 3rd gear in the down/up chicane at the end? images/smilies/tongue.gif

You go full throttle, lift of a tiny bit before entry, make a harsh movement on the steering wheel, and FULL throttle on exit (you can back off a bit at the exit if you see that you will rine very wide). Don't cut in the middle, because you'll pick up sand with your right tires which will lead to a shitty braking in the corner afterwards.

Make those tires scream, I didnt hear a single noise from your tires while you were racing. No need to take it easy in a hotlap images/smilies/wink.gif

Oh, and warm up those tires before racing. Do a few donuts, make a really harsh movement on the wheel so that the car will understeer, hence warming up the front tires as well. Just get them up to temperature, but dont make them all dark green. Just light green on the inside and the outside.

BTW, dunno which setup you use, hit me up on msn and i'll send it over.

I always warm up my Tires. But by the time there warmed up there flat >.<

Replay Data From A few Of My Races:
http://rapidshare.de/files/5616449/spr.rar.html

warning one of them isn't pretty

pdanev · September 28th, 2005, 08:52 AM

Ermm, all those are gtr replays and non is on aston cadett if i read the filenames correctly images/smilies/wacko.gif

Btw, no need to warm up tires with gtr cars, they warm up more then quickly enough within 1/2 a lap.

pdanev · September 28th, 2005, 10:15 AM

Yeah, i managed to get lfs analyzer working, dunno what i did wrong with my previous attempts. Quite a nice tool images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

*goes analyzing and chasing the WR*

andyhui01 · September 28th, 2005, 11:09 AM

mind sharing the analyzer?

pdanev · September 28th, 2005, 11:22 AM

Read CAREFULLY!!! -> http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=analysers images/smilies/wink.gif

-> Download SMX files, copy to smx directory
-> Download AnalyzeForSpeed from http://www.ctd-racing.com/AFS/

September 26th, 2005, 03:13 PM	#1
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: November 27th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,511 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	okay... I need a little help on AS Cadet, I suck at it I'm having huge problems with finding braking points and racing lines for the AS cadet track + handling the chicane consistantly... here's a SPR of it... please take a look and leave comments s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3TK1IO8KY4WED03TVSM7G0UZBO __________________

September 26th, 2005, 05:33 PM	#2
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	mmm, lotsa room for improvement Well in general, dont be afraid to push it!!! compared to real life, you wont get hurt in a crash You seem to be very gentle with your driving. give it more throttel at exits, slam those brakes harder and brake later (you seem to brake way to early everywhere), and make those movements on the steering wheel a bit sharper. Also use the whole track, you seem to go a lot of times 1 car width away from the track side, use the whole width of the track both on entry and exit. And what's with the 3rd gear in the down/up chicane at the end? You go full throttle, lift of a tiny bit before entry, make a harsh movement on the steering wheel, and FULL throttle on exit (you can back off a bit at the exit if you see that you will rine very wide). Don't cut in the middle, because you'll pick up sand with your right tires which will lead to a shitty braking in the corner afterwards. Make those tires scream, I didnt hear a single noise from your tires while you were racing. No need to take it easy in a hotlap Oh, and warm up those tires before racing. Do a few donuts, make a really harsh movement on the wheel so that the car will understeer, hence warming up the front tires as well. Just get them up to temperature, but dont make them all dark green. Just light green on the inside and the outside. BTW, dunno which setup you use, hit me up on msn and i'll send it over.

September 26th, 2005, 05:54 PM	#3
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: 07:26 AM Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,996 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 38	Pedal to the metal through the chicane... I start to turn in when I see the 3 black and white poles... That at least one sec accounted for... Pdanev told you the rest anyway... Ex WR holder, I belive??? Buba __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

September 27th, 2005, 04:54 AM	#6
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: November 27th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,511 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	alright... thx for the tips pdanev, gonna give them a shot again ... I'm using a cadet setup that mancs gave me, should be alright __________________

September 27th, 2005, 05:26 AM	#7
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: November 27th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,511 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	I managed to get my time down to 1:00.5... its on the lfsworld site ... gna keep practicing __________________

September 26th, 2005, 06:23 PM	#4
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	nah, iirc i was 2nd on aston till i got overtaken by "arrechee" (sp?), since that stable 3rd

September 26th, 2005, 10:34 PM	#5
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Forgot to mention one thing. Andy, when you brake, don't let off the throttle completely, keep it at a minimal level, just to keep the revs up, otherwise, with this setup wich uses clutch diff, the revs fall immediately. Even under very heavy braking, dont let off the accelerator 100%.

September 27th, 2005, 10:35 AM	#8
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	i think he moded that a bit. anyway, here's what i use http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...N3PV9N2RD6HIUM

September 27th, 2005, 02:40 PM	#9
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: November 27th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,511 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	I'm <1min now ... at least I'm on the first page of the hotlap board ... thx for the tip guys, but I don't know where to get the remaining 2seconds from? __________________

September 27th, 2005, 03:26 PM	#10
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	if you can lap constantl <1:00min times that should be competitive enough

September 27th, 2005, 04:28 PM	#11
MXM old porsches do run! Joined: Jun 9th, 2004 Last Online: 04:09 PM Location: Finland Age: 26 Posts: 2,660 Car: Porsche 944 LFS Status: Rep Power: 32	I can do middle 59 constantly, VERY rarely low 59. I did 58 only 3 or 4 times. So you can compete with me

September 27th, 2005, 05:04 PM	#12
Buba Wants Rick Astley's Babies Joined: Nov 12th, 2004 Last Online: 07:26 AM Location: Regensburg, Bavaria Age: 27 Posts: 5,996 Car: Golf LFS Status: Rep Power: 38	Below 1:00 is really good... You don't have much to do except driving, I suspect?? Buba __________________ [18:11] MXM: it means buba is better than you now [18:12] sam-l: In what way? [18:12] Slycer: longer penis

September 27th, 2005, 05:53 PM	#13
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	yep, below 1min is ok for racing, usually i can clock low 58s in hotlap, high58s in a race, but overtaking on aston cadet with rb4/fxo/t cars is really hard, so you would have to be 3-4seconds slower so that a person racing 58s can easily overtake you. as long as you lap <1min, meaning ~1s slower per lap, it will be really hard for 58s people to overtake you

September 28th, 2005, 01:34 AM	#14
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: November 27th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,511 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	alright... thx alot pdanev... and yes BUba, I'm on holiday now so I sat my ass down for like 3 hours straight hotlapping ... my consistent time is very low 1min... once awhile I'll get high 59's __________________

September 28th, 2005, 01:39 AM	#15
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	MXM managed to run lfs analyzer with s2 tonight so contrary to my belief and previous attempts, the old analyzer apperantly does work with s2! Will try that tomorrow again, and if I suceed in running it i'll post some screenshots of where you loose time (if not, i'll bug mxm to explain me how he ran analyzer on s2 ).

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September 28th, 2005, 08:52 AM	#17
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Ermm, all those are gtr replays and non is on aston cadett if i read the filenames correctly Btw, no need to warm up tires with gtr cars, they warm up more then quickly enough within 1/2 a lap.

September 28th, 2005, 10:15 AM	#18
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Yeah, i managed to get lfs analyzer working, dunno what i did wrong with my previous attempts. Quite a nice tool goes analyzing and chasing the WR

September 28th, 2005, 11:09 AM	#19
andyhui01 Joined: Jun 4th, 2004 Last Online: November 27th, 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 20 Posts: 8,511 Car: 00' Subaru Forester GT LFS Status: Rep Power: 28	mind sharing the analyzer? __________________

September 28th, 2005, 11:22 AM	#20
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,643 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Read CAREFULLY!!! -> http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=analysers -> Download SMX files, copy to smx directory -> Download AnalyzeForSpeed from http://www.ctd-racing.com/AFS/