S6 2007/09/15 AS Grand Prix [2x10]

ESPNSTI · September 15th, 2007, 08:17 PM

Stats:

http://espnsti.iridiumonline.info/LF...ults_race.html
http://espnsti.iridiumonline.info/LF...ults_race.html

Not a particularly thrilling race for me, other than in the first couple of laps.
But it looks like pdanev, firefox and lonely had quite a second race.
And it seems that firefox found an innovative way to save tires in lap 7. images/smilies/tongue.gif

FireFox · September 15th, 2007, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPNSTI

And it seems that firefox found an innovative way to save tires in lap 7. images/smilies/tongue.gif

http://www.phyrefile.com/pic/2007/09/15/2wheeled.jpg

awesome race, it took forever to get back on 4 wheels again. Great race, door to door racing. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

btw, I didnt add fuel in the first race, althought the stats said i did. Bug?

lnldrvr · September 15th, 2007, 09:28 PM

Really nice first race(s)! images/smilies/smile.gif

Race 1: First lap, first hairpin, braked a tiny bit too late trying to overtake ESPN and ended up in the grass. From last place I slowly started to move up again, got nice drafts in the straights and passed people in front. Pitting on the 8th lap got me ahead of ESPN as well.

Race 2: One of the nicest races I've had. FireFox and pdanev had a nice start and got 1-2 early on. It took me couple laps to get third. Then I started to catch up while FF and pdanev were busy fighting each other and slowing themselves down. Lap 9 I passed pdanev and almost had FireFox as well, but he blocked really well. Last lap pdanev passed me where I passed lap before and again I was third. On the finishing straight I almost had pdanev:

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4232/close1ah4.jpg

0.02 seconds away. images/smilies/wink.gif

pdanev · September 15th, 2007, 09:32 PM

Originally I was supposed to go to Frankfurt IAA this Saturday, but I got pretty sick so I stayed home. Good thing in this misfortune was that I could at least race. images/smilies/smile.gif

And damn, what a race. 1st one was nothing exciting, but the 2nd race was great. Very nice fights, lots of overtakings and battles, an awesome start for the new season. I hope the rest of the races will be like this too! images/smilies/smile.gif

edit: Sorry mischief, like I thought in 2nd lap the collision in turn 1 was my fault indeed. I thought you were far on the inside, but apparently you were really close. I should look around better next time. images/smilies/sad.gif

Mischief007 · September 15th, 2007, 10:50 PM

Race 1: First 1.5 laps I was fighting ESPN. I don't know if he enjoyed that but I did. We were going back and forth going with clean passes. At the end of the second lap coming out of the last turn, I hit the tires. That absolutely sucked. I started putting in consistent laps to go after GraemeH at that point. I passed him on lap 5 on the downhill straight into the fast chicane. He gave me room to make it clean. Came into the pits and GraemeH passed me since I had to fix body damage. I passed GraemeH on lap 9 at the 180 or so degree corner on the inside. I was basically putting in consistent laps to make sure I can catch somebody. Salvaged 5th.

Race 2: 3 wide into the first corner didn't quite work out. Got bumped sideways but no big deal. For the entire first 2 laps, everybody was real close to each other and it was some fantastic racing. In lap 1, I spent half that lap beside Henry (aka FireFox). Just in awe. Then of course the mistakes started and I dropped to 5th trying to fend off GraemeH from overtaking me. I was starting to catch ESPN and I finally caught him by lap 6. Then of course, coming down the downhill straight, my car got squiggly over the bumps and into the sand trap. That was it for my contention to get ESPN or lonely of the front runners for that matter. All I could do now is put in consistent laps.

American TG Man · September 16th, 2007, 01:50 AM

I really need to scrounge up some money and purchase an S2 license, since it seems the FinalGear racing is really fun...

epp_b · September 16th, 2007, 02:27 AM

"[FG] epp_b placed dead fricking last and drove like crap through the whole race"

That about sums it up for me images/smilies/dry.gif

Mischief007 · September 16th, 2007, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epp_b

"[FG] epp_b placed dead fricking last and drove like crap through the whole race"

That about sums it up for me images/smilies/dry.gif

I used to be slower then ESPNSTI, FF, pdanev, etc...

I'm almost on par with them with certain cars and tracks. It took me almost 5 seasons with them to become as good as they are and to start giving them a fight for their money. I trust the car more and more and what it is capable of doing.

It will take time. Don't just quit out of a race blaming yourself because you'll never get to that level. Keep racing...

pdanev · September 16th, 2007, 10:57 AM

Epp_b like most of us play since S1 days which is 3-4 years. You can't expect to brake world records in just 1-2 months after buying S2. images/smilies/wink.gif

Patience, practice, and more practice. Download some setups from inferno, pick one of the slower road cars e.g. XFG, take a track you like, and find a server that has that combo. Practice a lot and try to really master that combo. Download the world record replay from lfsworld, watch it, and practice. Race online and try to kick everyone's ass. Then take the XRG, and do the same. Climb up the letter through the turbocharged cars, up to cars with slicks and wings.

The CTRA servers are a good place to practice online, you have some "goal" to reach, ie next level of license, and the races are usually cleaner.

epp_b · September 16th, 2007, 09:13 PM

I was hoping to at least keep up .... somewhat images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

And, actually, I do reasonably well sometimes on the CRTA and Redline races with the FOX. I think I've got a couple of podiums before.

Oh, I know, it's because they're FWD...I hate FWD images/smilies/tongue.gif

Mischief007 · September 16th, 2007, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epp_b

Oh, I know, it's because they're FWD...I hate FWD images/smilies/tongue.gif

Don't remind me. I dread front wheel drive cars. Give me AWD or RWD.

ESPNSTI · September 16th, 2007, 10:50 PM

Just a tip on FWD (and yes, I think it's the work of the Devil), you can somewhat counteract the understeer by keeping the foot on the break while applying the throttle in sharp corners.

Also, there will be a point where you may think you have reached a plateau where you can't get any faster for a long time during practice (and you may actually start to run worse for a bit), but then all of the sudden you can find something, or you find yourself running faster without knowing why.

pdanev · September 17th, 2007, 12:28 AM

Another thing is that there is a big difference between setups and how you drive them. XFR/UFR is quite easy to drive with clutch diff and preload, but apparently not the fastest so locked diffs are often used, which is a bitch to handle. Especially in twistier parts. During this race I actually used very often the handbrake, in particular when I missed the braking a bit and the car wouldn't turn. What ESPN suggested is also "normal" procedure with FWD cars. images/smilies/smile.gif

Different cars, even same cars with different setups have to be driven differently. Some require braking in straight line and rolling into the apex, others trail braking, sometimes you have to be gentle with the throttle on exit sometimes you have to jump on it asap. At times the car may be very sensitive and require precision driving, and sometimes it has to be thrown and trashed into a corner in a hardcore way.

Again, practice practice and more practice. Don't be afraid to experiment, especially when you feel like you've reached your max. Try something new out, later/earlier braking, sharper and quicker turn in etc etc etc. images/smilies/smile.gif

matt2000 · September 22nd, 2007, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epp_b

I was hoping to at least keep up .... somewhat images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

you're probably still faster than me, and i've been racing for 3 seasons images/smilies/biggrin.gif

.

any news on this weeks race? sorry i missed the other races, not been looking at this section much images/smilies/blush.gif

epp_b · September 22nd, 2007, 01:36 PM

Quote:

you're probably still faster than me, and i've been racing for 3 seasons

Mind giving me some self-esteem by joining today's race? images/smilies/tongue.gif

Quote:

any news on this weeks race? sorry i missed the other races, not been looking at this section much

I would assume it's still on as usual.

Mischief007 · September 22nd, 2007, 02:37 PM

It is on. RB4/GTT/FXO on BlackWood Reverse. 20 laps each race.

matt2000 · September 22nd, 2007, 03:22 PM

thanks. what time is it in GMT?

FireFox · September 22nd, 2007, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt2000

thanks. what time is it in GMT?

in 20 min from now

matt2000 · September 22nd, 2007, 06:01 PM

sorry missed it images/smilies/sad.gif

i would join to watch, but my sister is using my PC now.

September 15th, 2007, 08:17 PM	#1
ESPNSTI Your Guide to TG/FG Joined: Dec 9th, 2003 Last Online: 05:44 PM Location: Decorah, IA Age: 36 Posts: 4,296 Car: 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI (USDM) LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	S6 2007/09/15 AS Grand Prix [2x10] Stats: http://espnsti.iridiumonline.info/LF...ults_race.html http://espnsti.iridiumonline.info/LF...ults_race.html Not a particularly thrilling race for me, other than in the first couple of laps. But it looks like pdanev, firefox and lonely had quite a second race. And it seems that firefox found an innovative way to save tires in lap 7. __________________ Top Gear Episode Guide (Excel) \| Top Gear Episode Guide (HTML) \| Top Gear Classic Episode Guide (HTML) Other Top Gear Guides \| Fifth Gear Guides \| Clarkson's TV/Video List \| Tiff Needell's TV/Video List

September 15th, 2007, 09:28 PM	#3
lnldrvr Previously Known As Lonely_Driver Joined: Nov 13th, 2004 Last Online: 05:47 PM Location: Finland Age: 23 Posts: 130 Car: a slow one Rep Power: 0	Really nice first race(s)! Race 1: First lap, first hairpin, braked a tiny bit too late trying to overtake ESPN and ended up in the grass. From last place I slowly started to move up again, got nice drafts in the straights and passed people in front. Pitting on the 8th lap got me ahead of ESPN as well. Race 2: One of the nicest races I've had. FireFox and pdanev had a nice start and got 1-2 early on. It took me couple laps to get third. Then I started to catch up while FF and pdanev were busy fighting each other and slowing themselves down. Lap 9 I passed pdanev and almost had FireFox as well, but he blocked really well. Last lap pdanev passed me where I passed lap before and again I was third. On the finishing straight I almost had pdanev: 0.02 seconds away. Last edited by lnldrvr; September 15th, 2007 at 09:33 PM.

September 15th, 2007, 09:32 PM	#4
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,642 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Originally I was supposed to go to Frankfurt IAA this Saturday, but I got pretty sick so I stayed home. Good thing in this misfortune was that I could at least race. And damn, what a race. 1st one was nothing exciting, but the 2nd race was great. Very nice fights, lots of overtakings and battles, an awesome start for the new season. I hope the rest of the races will be like this too! edit: Sorry mischief, like I thought in 2nd lap the collision in turn 1 was my fault indeed. I thought you were far on the inside, but apparently you were really close. I should look around better next time. Last edited by pdanev; September 15th, 2007 at 09:39 PM.

September 15th, 2007, 10:50 PM	#5
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: October 2nd, 2008 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 4,336 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG Rep Power: 23	Race 1: First 1.5 laps I was fighting ESPN. I don't know if he enjoyed that but I did. We were going back and forth going with clean passes. At the end of the second lap coming out of the last turn, I hit the tires. That absolutely sucked. I started putting in consistent laps to go after GraemeH at that point. I passed him on lap 5 on the downhill straight into the fast chicane. He gave me room to make it clean. Came into the pits and GraemeH passed me since I had to fix body damage. I passed GraemeH on lap 9 at the 180 or so degree corner on the inside. I was basically putting in consistent laps to make sure I can catch somebody. Salvaged 5th. Race 2: 3 wide into the first corner didn't quite work out. Got bumped sideways but no big deal. For the entire first 2 laps, everybody was real close to each other and it was some fantastic racing. In lap 1, I spent half that lap beside Henry (aka FireFox). Just in awe. Then of course the mistakes started and I dropped to 5th trying to fend off GraemeH from overtaking me. I was starting to catch ESPN and I finally caught him by lap 6. Then of course, coming down the downhill straight, my car got squiggly over the bumps and into the sand trap. That was it for my contention to get ESPN or lonely of the front runners for that matter. All I could do now is put in consistent laps. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG - 3800 Gen 3 Supercharged V6 55,965 km - 34,775 miles

September 16th, 2007, 01:50 AM	#6
American TG Man Banned By Request Joined: Feb 18th, 2007 Last Online: 10:33 AM Location: Lafayette, NJ, Americaland Age: 17 Posts: 1,806 Car: None... :'c LFS Status: Rep Power: 21	I really need to scrounge up some money and purchase an S2 license, since it seems the FinalGear racing is really fun... __________________ The things one must have in life:1)anonymity 2)floppy hair 3)a taste for cardboard 4)POWERRR!!!! Fuck the FIA, and hurray for Scuderia Toro Rosso and Renault F1! DSRacing status: Great news! The Dacia Sandero now has a mention here! "We're breaking into a military base and I'm drunk. What could be more stupid?" - Phil Cassidy

September 16th, 2007, 02:27 AM	#7
epp_b n00b of the year Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 05:49 PM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 4,419 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 36	"[FG] epp_b placed dead fricking last and drove like crap through the whole race" That about sums it up for me

September 16th, 2007, 10:57 AM	#9
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,642 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Epp_b like most of us play since S1 days which is 3-4 years. You can't expect to brake world records in just 1-2 months after buying S2. Patience, practice, and more practice. Download some setups from inferno, pick one of the slower road cars e.g. XFG, take a track you like, and find a server that has that combo. Practice a lot and try to really master that combo. Download the world record replay from lfsworld, watch it, and practice. Race online and try to kick everyone's ass. Then take the XRG, and do the same. Climb up the letter through the turbocharged cars, up to cars with slicks and wings. The CTRA servers are a good place to practice online, you have some "goal" to reach, ie next level of license, and the races are usually cleaner.

September 16th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#10
epp_b n00b of the year Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 05:49 PM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 4,419 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 36	I was hoping to at least keep up .... somewhat And, actually, I do reasonably well sometimes on the CRTA and Redline races with the FOX. I think I've got a couple of podiums before. Oh, I know, it's because they're FWD...I hate FWD Last edited by epp_b; September 16th, 2007 at 09:17 PM.

September 16th, 2007, 10:50 PM	#12
ESPNSTI Your Guide to TG/FG Joined: Dec 9th, 2003 Last Online: 05:44 PM Location: Decorah, IA Age: 36 Posts: 4,296 Car: 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI (USDM) LFS Status: Rep Power: 34	Just a tip on FWD (and yes, I think it's the work of the Devil), you can somewhat counteract the understeer by keeping the foot on the break while applying the throttle in sharp corners. Also, there will be a point where you may think you have reached a plateau where you can't get any faster for a long time during practice (and you may actually start to run worse for a bit), but then all of the sudden you can find something, or you find yourself running faster without knowing why. __________________ Top Gear Episode Guide (Excel) \| Top Gear Episode Guide (HTML) \| Top Gear Classic Episode Guide (HTML) Other Top Gear Guides \| Fifth Gear Guides \| Clarkson's TV/Video List \| Tiff Needell's TV/Video List

September 17th, 2007, 12:28 AM	#13
pdanev Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Netherlands Age: 25 Posts: 5,642 LFS Status: Rep Power: 24	Another thing is that there is a big difference between setups and how you drive them. XFR/UFR is quite easy to drive with clutch diff and preload, but apparently not the fastest so locked diffs are often used, which is a bitch to handle. Especially in twistier parts. During this race I actually used very often the handbrake, in particular when I missed the braking a bit and the car wouldn't turn. What ESPN suggested is also "normal" procedure with FWD cars. Different cars, even same cars with different setups have to be driven differently. Some require braking in straight line and rolling into the apex, others trail braking, sometimes you have to be gentle with the throttle on exit sometimes you have to jump on it asap. At times the car may be very sensitive and require precision driving, and sometimes it has to be thrown and trashed into a corner in a hardcore way. Again, practice practice and more practice. Don't be afraid to experiment, especially when you feel like you've reached your max. Try something new out, later/earlier braking, sharper and quicker turn in etc etc etc.

September 22nd, 2007, 02:37 PM	#16
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: October 2nd, 2008 Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 4,336 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG Rep Power: 23	It is on. RB4/GTT/FXO on BlackWood Reverse. 20 laps each race. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG - 3800 Gen 3 Supercharged V6 55,965 km - 34,775 miles

September 22nd, 2007, 03:22 PM	#17
matt2000 Squirrel Mincer Joined: Feb 17th, 2006 Last Online: 06:07 PM Location: Market Harborough, UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,885 Car: '77 Land Rover Series III 88" (with bucket seats) LFS Status: Rep Power: 40	thanks. what time is it in GMT? __________________ Want an avatar but can't be arsed to do it yourself - Let me know!

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