WRC 2005: Monte Carlo

MercedesAMG · January 20th, 2005, 9:48 PM

so anyone ready for the start up of the 2005 season? any predictions? i'm still rooting for solberg.. hope he makes a killing this season

ruuman · January 20th, 2005, 10:06 PM

Yep I hope petter does well, but Sebastian Loeb is always dangerous on the starting races esp tarmac stuff. I just wish the coverage was better here, I never know when it's on images/smilies/sad.gif

Mischief007 · January 20th, 2005, 11:26 PM

Going for Loeb and Citroen... images/smilies/smile.gif

Ethan · January 21st, 2005, 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mischief007

Going for Loeb and Citroen... images/smilies/smile.gif

Ditto here

ALLEZ SEBASTIEN!!!!

SL65 · January 21st, 2005, 3:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mischief007

Going for Loeb and Citroen... images/smilies/smile.gif

Ditto here

ESPNSTI · January 21st, 2005, 5:30 AM

If Subaru can solve the watersplash problem and get more compettitive on tarmac, I'd bet on Petter, but those are two BIG "if"s.

zeroSignal · January 21st, 2005, 5:55 AM

Go Citroen!

mmap · January 21st, 2005, 7:31 AM

Oh yeah, BIG rally fan here so the start of the season cannot be too soon.

I'd like to see Grönholm win (well I would, wouldn't I) but realistically I think that Loeb will take this one. Looks like it's going to be a good season, a lot of excellent drivers and the PSA teams will probably like to out with a bang so good competition coming up, Yey.

Viper007Bond · January 21st, 2005, 8:13 AM

No cable, so I only can watch via downloads which results in me usually being out of the loop when it comes to WRC, but I'l really rootin' for Solberg & Subaru! images/smilies/thumbup.gif

haz · January 21st, 2005, 10:02 AM

Solberg. No doubt. Loeb is finished, and not as motivated as Petter.

Just read an article in the newspapers today, which Petter wrote (translated from Norwegian, but must be read with Petters rather BAD english):

http://img92.exs.cx/img92/310/petter4tu.jpg

"Hi guys!
Imagine that you're going for a ride. When you start, the tarmac is dry. Then it gets wet. Then you go higher up, the road gets icey. And when you reach the top, it is snowey. Then you need to get down on the other side of the mountain.
That's Monte Carlo, and that's what makes it so hard. I'm not going to brag about my tire-choice, but the thing is you can't make a tire-choice that'll be the correct choice forthe whole "lap". That's why a driver can win 20 sec.s one lap, and lose 20 on the next. Without him driving bad nor better ..."

The article goes on and on about tire-choice....

I love WRC. And whenever there is F1 instaead of WRC, I just fall asleep after 36 laps .... I think in F1 it's 90% car, and 10% driver. In WRC it's more like 50/50. Besides, no one in F1 overtakes anyone, unless the guy ahead of you spins off, or you are Michael Schmacher ...

I'm sooo looking forward to this season of WRC images/smilies/tongue.gif

Lets announce a person who is willing to rip every race images/smilies/tongue.gif

haz

haz · January 21st, 2005, 10:50 AM

THIS JUST IN:

A VERY DRAMATIC SEASON-START FOR PETTER !!!!!!

http://img22.exs.cx/img22/2364/petterdritiut8ij.jpg

Petter lost his brakes on the first timetrial, and had a small accident. The car was ok and he continued, BUT spectators were extremely close, so it could have ended with casualties... (Petter: "one of the worst things I've experienced in rally)

TOTAL: (AFTER 2 OF 15 TIMETRIALS):

1. Sebastien Loeb 31.25,1
2. Francois Duval +10,5
3. Marcus Grönholm +13,2
4. Markko Märrtin +21,6
5. Petter Solberg +25,4
6. Toni Gardermeister +30,1
7. Stephane Sarrazin +46,7
8. Didier Auriol +47,5
9. Gilles Panizzi +56,2
10. Alexandre Bengue +1.15,3
11. Luca Rossetti +1.16,0
12. Roman Kresta +1.17,1
13. Harri Rovanpeerä +1.20,4

RESULTS, 2.ND TIMETRIAL, FRIDAY (20,15 km.):

1. Marcus Grönholm 14.05,4
2. Francois Duval +0,3
3. Sebastien Loeb +1,1
4. Petter Solberg +2,5
5. Markko Märrtin +8,9
6. Toni Gardermeister +9,0
7. Gilles Panizzi +10,8
8. Stephane Sarrazin +15,6
9. Roman Kresta +23,3
10. Harri Rovanpeerä +29,8
11. Alexandre Bengue +34,5

RESULTS, FIRST TIMETRIALS, FRIDAY (22,93 km.):

1. Sébastien Loeb 17.18,6
2. Francois Duval +11,3 SECS
3. Markko Märtin +13,8
4. Marcus Grönholm +14,3
5. Toni Gardemeister +22,2
6. Petter Solberg 24,0
7. Stéphane Sarrazin +32,2
8. Didier Auriol +33,5
9. Alexandre Bengue +41,9
10. Gilles Panizzi +46,5
11. Harri Rovanperä +51,7

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

STAGES:
FRIDAY:
SS1: 22,93 km - kl. 08.33
SS2: 20,15 km - kl. 09.46
SS3: 32,70 km - kl. 13.21
SS4: 32,70 km - kl. 16.42

SATURDAY:
SS5: 32,61 km - kl. 07.50
SS6: 19,52 km - kl. 11.46
SS7: 28,40 km - kl. 12.19
SS8: 19,52 km - kl. 16.25
SS9: 28,40 km - kl. 16.58

SUNDAY:
SS10: 7,32 km - kl. 07.57
SS11: 19,52 km - kl. 08.19
SS12: 31,19 km - kl. 08.55
SS13: 7,32 km - kl. 11.49
SS14: 19,52 km - kl. 12.11
SS15: 31,19 km - kl. 12.47

haz

SuperGeijiMayuu · January 21st, 2005, 12:29 PM

personally, i'd like to see how martin fairs with a new team and new car. but of course, my favorite driver has to be solberg (he has such charisma and character images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

).
only way to get wrc coverage here is via speedchannel, which i don't get here at school images/smilies/sad.gif

i'm not sure about the long run, but it semms sebastien loeb is unstoppable in monte carlo once again..

Mischief007 · January 21st, 2005, 3:32 PM

Solberg looks like to be attracting the wrong kind of attention ever since those three DNFs in a row last season.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPNSTI

If Subaru can solve the watersplash problem and get more compettitive on tarmac, I'd bet on Petter, but those are two BIG "if"s

I watched those watersplashes and it was dissapointing to see that Subaru couldn't solve that. I hope they can resolve that issue.

MercedesAMG · January 21st, 2005, 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGeijiMayuu

personally, i'd like to see how martin fairs with a new team and new car. but of course, my favorite driver has to be solberg (he has such charisma and character images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

).
only way to get wrc coverage here is via speedchannel, which i don't get here at school images/smilies/sad.gif

i'm not sure about the long run, but it semms sebastien loeb is unstoppable in monte carlo once again..

when will he be getting the new car? i didnt think it was ready yet

SuperGeijiMayuu · January 21st, 2005, 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercedesAMG

when will he be getting the new car? i didnt think it was ready yet

i was just referring to him switching from ford to peugeot images/smilies/tongue.gif

MercedesAMG · January 21st, 2005, 6:41 PM

oh he switched to peugeot? i havent been reading the news on who has been switching to what.. thats interesting

SL65 · January 21st, 2005, 9:03 PM

So wait, hasnt Loeb changed teams now?? images/smilies/mellow.gif

I heard that do to the excessive costs of running a rally team, Citreon & co have left the scene.

SPG900 · January 21st, 2005, 9:13 PM

GOooooo Duval!

p0w3r · January 21st, 2005, 9:33 PM

I hope Mitsubishi gets everything fixed so they can be competitive again images/smilies/sad.gif

When Mitsubishi is not in the rally i usually end up rooting for peter and subaru images/smilies/smile.gif

SuperGeijiMayuu · January 21st, 2005, 9:58 PM

ok. here are the teams and their drivers. the source being the official WRC site, of course. (there's been quite a shuffle from the last season)

Citroen
- Sebastien Loeb
- Francois Duval

Ford
- Tony Gardemeister
- Roman Kresta

Mitsubishi
- Gilles Pannizi
- Gianluigi Galli

Peugeot
- Marcus Gronholm
- Markko Martin

Skoda
- Armin Schwarz
- Janne Tuohino (Gravel)
- Jani Paasonen (Gravel)
- Alex Bengue (Asphalt)
- Mattias Ekstrom (Third car)
- Jan Kopecky (Third car)

Subaru
- Petter Solberg
- Stephane Sarrazin
- Chris Atkinson

January 20th, 2005, 9:48 PM	#1
MercedesAMG VIP Joined: Jan 9th, 2004 Location: New York Posts: 790 Rep Power: 24	WRC 2005: Monte Carlo so anyone ready for the start up of the 2005 season? any predictions? i'm still rooting for solberg.. hope he makes a killing this season __________________

January 20th, 2005, 11:26 PM	#3
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January 21st, 2005, 5:30 AM	#6
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January 21st, 2005, 5:55 AM	#7
zeroSignal Nerdcore Joined: Jan 8th, 2005 Location: Cybertron Age: 25 Posts: 509 Car: 2004 Seat Leon 1.9 TDI 110 Rep Power: 31	Go Citroen! __________________

January 21st, 2005, 8:13 AM	#9
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,290 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 298	No cable, so I only can watch via downloads which results in me usually being out of the loop when it comes to WRC, but I'l really rootin' for Solberg & Subaru! __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

January 20th, 2005, 10:06 PM	#2
ruuman Joined: Sep 16th, 2004 Location: surrey, UK Age: 29 Posts: 627 Car: Range Rover, Defender 90, Suzuki DL-650 Rep Power: 22	Yep I hope petter does well, but Sebastian Loeb is always dangerous on the starting races esp tarmac stuff. I just wish the coverage was better here, I never know when it's on

January 21st, 2005, 7:31 AM	#8
mmap Joined: Sep 12th, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 30 Posts: 1,302 Car: BMW / Suzuki VX800 Rep Power: 23	Oh yeah, BIG rally fan here so the start of the season cannot be too soon. I'd like to see Grönholm win (well I would, wouldn't I) but realistically I think that Loeb will take this one. Looks like it's going to be a good season, a lot of excellent drivers and the PSA teams will probably like to out with a bang so good competition coming up, Yey.

January 21st, 2005, 10:02 AM	#10
haz I AM OT! Joined: May 28th, 2004 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 29 Posts: 3,604 Car: '70 VW, '96 Merc C200 Sport (only 2 down from 4..) Rep Power: 29	Solberg. No doubt. Loeb is finished, and not as motivated as Petter. Just read an article in the newspapers today, which Petter wrote (translated from Norwegian, but must be read with Petters rather BAD english): "Hi guys! Imagine that you're going for a ride. When you start, the tarmac is dry. Then it gets wet. Then you go higher up, the road gets icey. And when you reach the top, it is snowey. Then you need to get down on the other side of the mountain. That's Monte Carlo, and that's what makes it so hard. I'm not going to brag about my tire-choice, but the thing is you can't make a tire-choice that'll be the correct choice forthe whole "lap". That's why a driver can win 20 sec.s one lap, and lose 20 on the next. Without him driving bad nor better ..." The article goes on and on about tire-choice.... I love WRC. And whenever there is F1 instaead of WRC, I just fall asleep after 36 laps .... I think in F1 it's 90% car, and 10% driver. In WRC it's more like 50/50. Besides, no one in F1 overtakes anyone, unless the guy ahead of you spins off, or you are Michael Schmacher ... I'm sooo looking forward to this season of WRC Lets announce a person who is willing to rip every race haz __________________ Jeremy loves the W202

January 21st, 2005, 10:50 AM	#11
haz I AM OT! Joined: May 28th, 2004 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 29 Posts: 3,604 Car: '70 VW, '96 Merc C200 Sport (only 2 down from 4..) Rep Power: 29	THIS JUST IN: A VERY DRAMATIC SEASON-START FOR PETTER !!!!!! Petter lost his brakes on the first timetrial, and had a small accident. The car was ok and he continued, BUT spectators were extremely close, so it could have ended with casualties... (Petter: "one of the worst things I've experienced in rally) TOTAL: (AFTER 2 OF 15 TIMETRIALS): 1. Sebastien Loeb 31.25,1 2. Francois Duval +10,5 3. Marcus Grönholm +13,2 4. Markko Märrtin +21,6 5. Petter Solberg +25,4 6. Toni Gardermeister +30,1 7. Stephane Sarrazin +46,7 8. Didier Auriol +47,5 9. Gilles Panizzi +56,2 10. Alexandre Bengue +1.15,3 11. Luca Rossetti +1.16,0 12. Roman Kresta +1.17,1 13. Harri Rovanpeerä +1.20,4 RESULTS, 2.ND TIMETRIAL, FRIDAY (20,15 km.): 1. Marcus Grönholm 14.05,4 2. Francois Duval +0,3 3. Sebastien Loeb +1,1 4. Petter Solberg +2,5 5. Markko Märrtin +8,9 6. Toni Gardermeister +9,0 7. Gilles Panizzi +10,8 8. Stephane Sarrazin +15,6 9. Roman Kresta +23,3 10. Harri Rovanpeerä +29,8 11. Alexandre Bengue +34,5 RESULTS, FIRST TIMETRIALS, FRIDAY (22,93 km.): 1. Sébastien Loeb 17.18,6 2. Francois Duval +11,3 SECS 3. Markko Märtin +13,8 4. Marcus Grönholm +14,3 5. Toni Gardemeister +22,2 6. Petter Solberg 24,0 7. Stéphane Sarrazin +32,2 8. Didier Auriol +33,5 9. Alexandre Bengue +41,9 10. Gilles Panizzi +46,5 11. Harri Rovanperä +51,7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STAGES: FRIDAY: SS1: 22,93 km - kl. 08.33 SS2: 20,15 km - kl. 09.46 SS3: 32,70 km - kl. 13.21 SS4: 32,70 km - kl. 16.42 SATURDAY: SS5: 32,61 km - kl. 07.50 SS6: 19,52 km - kl. 11.46 SS7: 28,40 km - kl. 12.19 SS8: 19,52 km - kl. 16.25 SS9: 28,40 km - kl. 16.58 SUNDAY: SS10: 7,32 km - kl. 07.57 SS11: 19,52 km - kl. 08.19 SS12: 31,19 km - kl. 08.55 SS13: 7,32 km - kl. 11.49 SS14: 19,52 km - kl. 12.11 SS15: 31,19 km - kl. 12.47 haz __________________ Jeremy loves the W202

January 21st, 2005, 12:29 PM	#12
SuperGeijiMayuu Joined: Dec 14th, 2004 Location: Virginia Tech! (US) Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	personally, i'd like to see how martin fairs with a new team and new car. but of course, my favorite driver has to be solberg (he has such charisma and character ). only way to get wrc coverage here is via speedchannel, which i don't get here at school i'm not sure about the long run, but it semms sebastien loeb is unstoppable in monte carlo once again.. __________________ Fly what you are willing to fall.

January 21st, 2005, 6:41 PM	#16
MercedesAMG VIP Joined: Jan 9th, 2004 Location: New York Posts: 790 Rep Power: 24	oh he switched to peugeot? i havent been reading the news on who has been switching to what.. thats interesting __________________

January 21st, 2005, 9:03 PM	#17
SL65 Ambitious but rubbish! Joined: Jul 12th, 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 9,299 Car: 1998 Subaru Legacy 2.5L Rep Power: 46	So wait, hasnt Loeb changed teams now?? I heard that do to the excessive costs of running a rally team, Citreon & co have left the scene.

January 21st, 2005, 9:13 PM	#18
SPG900 Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Location: België Posts: 567 Rep Power: 0	GOooooo Duval!

January 21st, 2005, 9:33 PM	#19
p0w3r Joined: May 21st, 2004 Location: New York City! Age: 20 Posts: 1,300 Car: 2008 Audi A4 2.0T Rep Power: 28	I hope Mitsubishi gets everything fixed so they can be competitive again When Mitsubishi is not in the rally i usually end up rooting for peter and subaru __________________

January 21st, 2005, 9:58 PM	#20
SuperGeijiMayuu Joined: Dec 14th, 2004 Location: Virginia Tech! (US) Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0	ok. here are the teams and their drivers. the source being the official WRC site, of course. (there's been quite a shuffle from the last season) Citroen - Sebastien Loeb - Francois Duval Ford - Tony Gardemeister - Roman Kresta Mitsubishi - Gilles Pannizi - Gianluigi Galli Peugeot - Marcus Gronholm - Markko Martin Skoda - Armin Schwarz - Janne Tuohino (Gravel) - Jani Paasonen (Gravel) - Alex Bengue (Asphalt) - Mattias Ekstrom (Third car) - Jan Kopecky (Third car) Subaru - Petter Solberg - Stephane Sarrazin - Chris Atkinson __________________ Fly what you are willing to fall.

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