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    Attn Environmentalists: Screw the Spotted Owl, Buy an SUV!

    Source There is quite a bit more to the article on the right hand side of the link.



    The environmental movement has never been short on noble goals. Preserving wild spaces, cleaning up the oceans, protecting watersheds, neutralizing acid rain, saving endangered species — all laudable. But today, one ecological problem outweighs all others: global warming. Restoring the Everglades, protecting the Headwaters redwoods, or saving the Illinois mud turtle won't matter if climate change plunges the planet into chaos. It's high time for greens to unite around the urgent need to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases.

    Just one problem. Winning the war on global warming requires slaughtering some of environmentalism's sacred cows. We can afford to ignore neither the carbon-free electricity supplied by nuclear energy nor the transformational potential of genetic engineering. We need to take advantage of the energy efficiencies offered by urban density. We must accept that the world's fastest-growing economies won't forgo a higher standard of living in the name of climate science — and that, on the way up, countries like India and China might actually help devise the solutions the planet so desperately needs.

    Some will reject this approach as dangerously single-minded: The environment is threatened on many fronts, and all of them need attention. So argues Alex Steffen. That may be true, but global warming threatens to overwhelm any progress made on other issues. The planet is already heating up, and the point of no return may be only decades away. So combating greenhouse gases must be our top priority, even if that means embracing the unthinkable. Here, then, are 10 tenets of the new environmental apostasy.
    Don't Buy That New Prius! Test-Drive a Used Car Instead
    In 2006, an Oregon market research firm released an incendiary 500-page report. Its claim: A Humvee (13 miles per gallon city, 16 highway) uses less energy than a Prius (48 city, 45 highway). Scientists quickly debunked the study, but the Hummer lovers got one thing right. Pound for pound, making a Prius contributes more carbon to the atmosphere than making a Hummer, largely due to the environmental cost of the 30 pounds of nickel in the hybrid's battery. Of course, the hybrid quickly erases that carbon deficit on the road, thanks to its vastly superior fuel economy.

    Still, the comparison suggests a more sensible question. If a new Prius were placed head-to-head with a used car, would the Prius win? Don't bet on it. Making a Prius consumes 113 million BTUs, according to sustainability engineer Pablo Päster. A single gallon of gas contains about 113,000 Btus, so Toyota's green wonder guzzles the equivalent of 1,000 gallons before it clocks its first mile. A used car, on the other hand, starts with a significant advantage: The first owner has already paid off its carbon debt. Buy a decade-old Toyota Tercel, which gets a respectable 35 mpg, and the Prius will have to drive 100,000 miles to catch up.

    Better yet, buy a three-cylinder, 49-horsepower 1994 Geo Metro XFi, one of the most fuel-efficient cars ever built. It gets the same average mileage as a 2008 Prius, so a new hybrid would never close the carbon gap. Sure, the XFi has no AC or airbags — but nobody said saving the planet would be comfortable, or even safe.

    Old-Growth Forests Can Actually Contribute to Global Warming
    Ronald Reagan's infamous claim that "trees cause more pollution than automobiles" contained a grain of truth. In warm weather, trees release volatile chemicals that act as catalysts for smog. But the Gipper didn't mention another point that's even more likely to make nature lovers blanch. When it comes to fighting climate change, it's more effective to treat forests like crops than like majestic monuments to nature.

    Over its lifetime, a tree shifts from being a vacuum cleaner for atmospheric carbon to an emitter. A tree absorbs roughly 1,500 pounds of CO2 in its first 55 years. After that, its growth slows, and it takes in less carbon. Left untouched, it ultimately rots or burns and all that CO2 gets released.

    Last year, the Canadian government commissioned a study to determine the quantity of carbon sequestered by the country's woodlands, which account for a tenth of global forests. It hoped to use the CO2-gathering power of 583 million acres of woods to offset its Kyoto Protocol-mandated responsibility to cut greenhouse gas emissions. No such luck. The report found that during many years, Canadian forests actually give up more carbon from decomposing wood than they lock down in new growth.

    A well-managed tree farm acts like a factory for sucking CO2 out of the atmosphere, so the most climate-friendly policy is to continually cut down trees and plant new ones. Lots of them. A few simple steps: Clear the oldest trees and then take out dead trunks and branches to prevent fires; landfill the scrap. Plant seedlings and harvest them as soon as their powers of carbon sequestration begin to flag, and use the wood to produce only high-quality durable goods like furniture and houses. It won't make a glossy photo for the Sierra Club's annual report, but it will take huge amounts of carbon out of the atmosphere.

    Urban Living Is Kinder to the Planet Than the Suburban Lifestyle
    To many Americans, ecological nirvana is a bucolic existence surrounded by wilderness. But the Thoreauvian desire for more elbow room has led to sprawl, malls, and cougar attacks. The edge-city upshot is a national cadre of 3.5 million "extreme commuters," who spend more than three hours a day in transit, many of them spewing carbon dioxide between exurb home and city office. Automobile exhaust in the US contributes roughly 1.9 billion tons a year to the global carbon cloud, more than the emissions of India, Japan, or Russia. Even worse are the 40 million lawn mowers used to tame the suburban backcountry: Each spews 11 cars' worth of pollutants per hour.

    The fact is, urban living is kinder to the planet, and Manhattan is perhaps the greenest place in the US. A Manhattanite's carbon footprint is 30 percent smaller than the average American's. The rate of car ownership is among the lowest in the country; 65 percent of the population walks, bikes, or rides mass transit to work. Large apartment buildings are the most efficient dwellings to heat and cool.

    And guess what high-speed means of transportation emits less atmospheric carbon than trains, planes, and automobiles? The humble counterweight elevator put into service in 1857, which has made vertical density possible from Dubai to Taipei.

    Air-Conditioning Actually Emits Less C02 Than Heating
    As a symbol of American profligacy, the air conditioner may rank second only to the automobile. Energy-sucking AC props up an unsustainable lifestyle in scorching desert cities like Phoenix, while the cheerful New Englander splitting wood and tending his potbelly stove is the epitome of ecological harmony MDASH so goes the green cant. But this stereotype gets it wrong. When it's 0 degrees outside, you've got to raise the indoor thermometer to 70 degrees. In 110-degree weather, you need to change the temperature by only 40 degrees to achieve the same comfort level. Since air-conditioning is inherently more efficient than heating (that is, it takes less energy to cool a given space by 1 degree than to heat it by the same amount), the difference has big implications for greenhouse gases.

    In the Northeast, a typical house heated by fuel oil emits 13,000 pounds of CO2 annually. Cooling a similar dwelling in Phoenix produces only 900 pounds of CO2 a year. Air-conditioning wins on a national scale as well. Salving the summer swelter in the US produces 110 million metric tons of CO2 annually. Heating the country releases nearly eight times more carbon over the same period. Meanwhile, chilly Northeasterners can at least take heart in one thing: With global warming you can turn the heat down.

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    Sadly, environmentalism isn't about saving the planet it's about feeling better than others and letting others know you're better.


    Treehuggers are the lowest though, if they'd just read up on what they are spending their lives on they would know we have more forest now than before WWII

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    I'm sure greenies would have counter-arguments to each of those points, but I don't care, they're still great points and highlight to those screaming about Global Warming (btw, meteorologists are forecasting the coldest winter in years for my home city) how there's much more to the debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedguy View Post
    Even worse are the 40 million lawn mowers used to tame the suburban backcountry: Each spews 11 cars' worth of pollutants per hour.

    More people need to see this.
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    Great scientific facts (or so I assume, I haven't read the reports themselves).

    Too bad they'll just go unnoticed like every other attempt for any organization to set the record straight, such as the Oregon researchers who determined the Hummer's manufacturing impact vs. the Prius's. Will anybody pay attention? No, the traditional green movement is too overwhelming and large-scale for anybody to decry the actions they perpetuate. Alas, touting these facts as rebuttals to the misguided will only make you seem like a laughingstock, as the brainwashing is way too strong in the minds of those who aren't willing to be as open-minded as us.

    I liked this bit, too:
    nobody said saving the planet would be comfortable, or even safe.
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    [QUOTE=fbc;706419]btw, meteorologists are forecasting the coldest winter in years for my home cityQUOTE]

    Common misconception. "Global Warming" is a shit media derived name resulting in many beliving that it causes only warmer weather. In fact the result is more extreme weather, colder winters and warmer summers. Or so I believe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedguy View Post
    Even worse are the 40 million lawn mowers used to tame the suburban backcountry: Each spews 11 cars' worth of pollutants per hour.
    Here's the answer to that:



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    But what are the CO2 emissions of the person pedaling?
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    I just bought that issue of Wired. It's the first article in it that made me want to buy the issue, rather than just skim it in line at the grocery store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbc View Post
    btw, meteorologists are forecasting the coldest winter in years for my home cityQUOTE]

    Common misconception. "Global Warming" is a shit media derived name resulting in many beliving that it causes only warmer weather. In fact the result is more extreme weather, colder winters and warmer summers. Or so I believe....
    Some of the more reputable news organizations, like NPR for example, does call it by the appropriate name Climate Change.

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    Technically, it is "global warming" as the overall temperature average of the entire planet goes up incrementally...but It just gets to me whenever there's an unusually warm day someone immediately blames it on global warming.

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    Such a shame this will be ignored by all the environmental loonies. They'll just keep driving their Priuses, and eating their soy-based foods. Reminds me of the time when some idiot in a Prius gave me a disgusting face when I was in my car. Sure was one heck of an incident I tell you what...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizegui View Post
    Reminds me of the time when some idiot in a Prius gave me a disgusting face when I was in my car. Sure was one heck of an incident I tell you what...
    I know that look. I get it all of the time when I roar by in my Jeep.
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    Reminds me of the time when some idiot in a Prius gave me a disgusting face when I was in my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NecroJoe View Post
    Technically, it is "global warming" as the overall temperature average of the entire planet goes up incrementally...but It just gets to me whenever there's an unusually warm day someone immediately blames it on global warming.
    Every day during winter I yelled, "where the hell is global warming?!"
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