Farewell to the F-117 - Page 2

FATMOUSE · March 17th, 2008, 06:48 AM

Why the Mirage?

(granted, it's one of the few things that makes France cool, but)

Blind_Io · March 17th, 2008, 07:02 AM

At the time it was one of the fastest fighters in the world and it is widely proliferated around the world. It's in service in nine countries with over 600 planes having been built. If that hasn't made a mark on the geopolitical landscape, I don't know what has.

Labcoatguy · March 17th, 2008, 07:06 AM

'Cause in a world of swept-wing jets, the deltas looked just damned otherworldly. The one-off Mirage 4000 prototype didn't hurt either.

http://www.dassaultfalcon.com/content/imagecontent.jsp?DESCRIPTION=61

Viper007Bond · March 17th, 2008, 07:10 AM

Too bad deltas flew like crap. images/smilies/tongue.gif

KaJuN · March 17th, 2008, 07:34 AM

^ Not necessarily true! There's a cool story about a F-106. From the National Museum of the U.S.A.F:

Quote:

The aircraft on display was involved in an unusual incident. During a training mission from Malmstrom Air Force Base on Feb. 2, 1970, it suddenly entered an uncontrollable flat spin forcing the pilot to eject. Unpiloted, the aircraft recovered on its own, apparently due to the balance and configuration changes caused by the ejection, and miraculously made a gentle belly landing in a snow-covered field near Big Sandy, Mont. After minor repairs, the aircraft was returned to service. It last served with the 49th Fighter Interceptor Squadron before being brought to the museum in August 1986.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=4085

Awesome! images/smilies/thumbup.gif

Blind_Io · March 17th, 2008, 07:56 AM

The delta wing provides superior super-sonic performance but sacrifices some subsonic maneuverability. It transitions very easily from the supersonic to subsonic and back again.

jensked · March 17th, 2008, 09:32 AM

You guys all sound like you have flown every airplane

Srsly uncool images/smilies/tongue.gif

Blind_Io · March 17th, 2008, 10:13 AM

You should see my bookshelf, it's loaded with reference material on all kinds of things - mostly military.

vegasrebel29 · March 17th, 2008, 10:31 AM

Airfix is not reference material!
images/smilies/tongue.gif

kaBOOMn · March 17th, 2008, 10:53 AM

Are they going to retire this one as well?

(sorry had to have a shot) images/smilies/tongue.gif

But really it looks like a wonderful piece of gear images/smilies/smile.gif

My father deals with military hardware at work (Radar and RF specialist) and my boss used to work at the same place dealing with landmines (no matter how good your tank is, its gunna get fkd' up) and precision military machining. Some of the stuff out there is scary...

Scott · March 17th, 2008, 05:29 PM

If you have not read the book "Skunk Works" go get a copy and read it... awesome stuff!

GM_IV · March 17th, 2008, 06:04 PM

As a little kid I always loved the F-117 design, it was by far the most recognizable plane of them all. Despite it being replaced by the F-22, I think the F-117 is still the one that comes into mind when one thinks "stealth plane". It along with the F-8, F-14 and F-15 remain my favourites.

Blind_Io · March 17th, 2008, 06:33 PM

You are probably the first person I've met who is a fan of the F-8 Crusader, it's just not a widely remembered aircraft.

Blayde · March 17th, 2008, 07:14 PM

you're right GM_IV, the word stealth brings something dark and sinister to mind, the F22 looks like a regular plane too much to be remembered as much as the 117. Gonna miss that thing, it was oddly shaped, but it looks beautiful to me images/smilies/wub.gif

sonza68 · March 17th, 2008, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind_Io

There isn't a fighter plane made today that can be flown without computers, not even the F-16.

The F-15 can, I'm not sure it there is anything else though.

Blind_Io · March 17th, 2008, 09:17 PM

Is the F-15 still in production or are we simply upgrading and maintaining the fleet of Eagles as the Raptor comes online.

sonza68 · March 17th, 2008, 09:20 PM

New production. The current aircraft are going to Korea and Singaporean jets are just around the corner.

Blind_Io · March 17th, 2008, 09:24 PM

Have we nerfed the avionics and weapons systems of those? I sure hope so.

sonza68 · March 17th, 2008, 11:27 PM

I don't do avionics, so I don't know. I do know that not all of our technology is exportable though.

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GM_IV Joined: Apr 5th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 389 Car: 1986 Toyota Cressida Rep Power: 11	As a little kid I always loved the F-117 design, it was by far the most recognizable plane of them all. Despite it being replaced by the F-22, I think the F-117 is still the one that comes into mind when one thinks "stealth plane". It along with the F-8, F-14 and F-15 remain my favourites. __________________

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