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    Just got my shot yesterday. Holy $#@&#@#$, the nurse must have messed up. My shoulder hurts so badly today, I couldn't fall back asleep at 5:00 am after taking an Oxycodone.
    My mother complained about a numb arm aswell, but I think its a very small price to pay compared to having a stuffy nose, sore throat, fever and headaches for an entire week.

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    Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins has been fitted for a tinfoil hat.

    If you follow some of the links I have been supplying as of late, you’ll notice many are focused on the propaganda build up to our day of reckoning with the Swine Flu virus. I say ‘propaganda’ because, in my heart, there is something mighty suspicious about declaring an emergency for something that has yet to show itself to be a grand pandemic. Our American President Obama has declared a national emergency about this virus, which he in his own words said was, at this point, a preventative measure. So, why declare an emergency if there isn’t one?

    I am not a doctor, and I am in no way suggesting that you should follow any medical advice from me. What you do with your body, what you put into it, who you allow to love it or hate on it, is your business. I am more focused on the vibration that has us all so fearful: both for how the fear affects our thinking, and how, in our fear, we attract the worst, and, in conjunction with that, how those fears are used by others without integrity to try to create a power against Us to promote discomfort and dis-ease.

    I have friends that have gotten the swine flu. All of them told me they felt very, very sick, and that it was awful. So I’m not in any way suggesting that the H1N1 virus is not real.

    I would suggest however that it is possible the virus is not a naturally occurring virus. I have read reports from people who say (as doctors) that there is evidence to suggest this virus was created by man; to call it Swine Flu is then a misnomer, as it really is Swine Flu plus some other stuff stitched together. These doctors said such genetic mutation was impossible in nature.

    So you have a situation here where you can examine your own Mind-Body-Soul power staring in the face of Death itself. Assume this flu is the worst thing to ever hit this planet, worse than the beubonic plague of the Middle Ages, or worse than any war ever conjured up. Evil itself has come to wreak havoc on the planet. Assume, for the sake of argument, it is The End.

    Well, where does that leave you? Do you quit work? Do you run away? Do you stand still and hope Death walks past you?

    I for one will not be taking the vaccine. I do not trust those who make the vaccines, or the apperatus behind it all to push it on us thru fear. This is not judgment; it is a personal decision based on research, intuition, conversations with my doctor and my ‘family’. If the virus comes to take me Home, that is between me and the Lord. I have put up some of these links to inspire the question in you, so that perhaps you can make a better decision for yourself. That is what holistic life is about: a willingness to look at all the facts or opinions.

    I am willing to question anything: the existence of God, the existence of me or you or Robert Zimmerman. I am willing to wonder aloud whether any of this we experience here on Earth is real. What is there to be afraid of in questioning life itself? I know God is not afraid of my doubt. That is why He gave me the faculty to doubt, to overcome its mystique to better know faith.

    If the propaganda machine kicked into overdrive about kindness, manners, working together, human ingenuity, and grace, then maybe I would view its function differently. But its current function is to maim and distort the truth, not to enlighten. How do I know this? Because it has fear attached to it, because it uses fear to move energy. Anything connected to fear is definitely not connected to Love or the promotion of Love.

    Scaring the daylights out of you over a virus or an unseen enemy only weakens us. Calm, open debate, and logical thought drive strength to its maximum effectiveness. The system works broken, because it is to the system’s advantage to do so. The system pretends to have a limp and a heart so you’ll think it is both listening to you and incapable of moving too fast.

    The state of Massachusetts here in America is about to sign into law (if it hasn’t already) for a mandatory vaccination. The state will have the power to come into your home and incarcerate you for being unwilling to comply with a vaccination order. Didn’t you hear? Soon, you won’t even have the choice to live OR die as you wish!

    The deeper message here might be that people will soon be ready to abandon the idea of a paternalistic system that governs this world. Before doing so, we must face down our deeper fears about our own liberty and tolerance. The time is coming when we will cast votes with our hearts and not our minds.
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    My mother complained about a numb arm aswell, but I think its a very small price to pay compared to having a stuffy nose, sore throat, fever and headaches for an entire week.
    My arm isn't numb, it's in pain. It's weird, because I've had vaccines all my life and never had this problem. Usually I have some mild discomfort for a couple hours and that's it.
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    Wait, wait, wait. Hold the phone. We have a more important issue to discuss...

    People still pay attention to Billy Corgan?
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    These doctors said such genetic mutation was impossible in nature.
    I'm a geneticist, so I know this is bunk. There are NO mutations which are impossible in nature. Unlikely, yes, but never impossible. Not only that, but it's fucking HARD to genetically engineer things, even things as simple as viruses.

    I wish more people understood basic science. Why are those of us in lab coats always the bad guys in the conspiracy theories?
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    Wait, wait, wait. Hold the phone. We have a more important issue to discuss...

    People still pay attention to Billy Corgan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spicysaurus View Post
    I'm a geneticist, so I know this is bunk. There are NO mutations which are impossible in nature. Unlikely, yes, but never impossible. Not only that, but it's fucking HARD to genetically engineer things, even things as simple as viruses.

    I wish more people understood basic science. Why are those of us in lab coats always the bad guys in the conspiracy theories?
    People fear what they don't understand. People doing research are doing all sorts of things that these people don't understand. Thus, people fear research.

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    Wait, wait, wait. Hold the phone. We have a more important issue to discuss...

    People still pay attention to Billy Corgan?
    Who is Billy Corgan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spicysaurus View Post
    I'm a geneticist, so I know this is bunk. There are NO mutations which are impossible in nature. Unlikely, yes, but never impossible. Not only that, but it's fucking HARD to genetically engineer things, even things as simple as viruses.

    I wish more people understood basic science. Why are those of us in lab coats always the bad guys in the conspiracy theories?
    Because movies told us so. IE. 28 Days Later, I Am Legend (the crappy one), etc.

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    Not waiting in line and dont care enough, doesn't kill healthy people anyways.

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    Who is Billy Corgan?
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    The '90s called; they want to have a meeting with you later.
    Hmmz, they where a huge pile of steaming mediocracy, i only listened to cool stuff!
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    i only listened to cool stuff!
    Maybe it's because I've been listening to different stuff all night, but that's definitely just noise to me.
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    SO you want music with different time signatures?
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    No, that really is noise and I like slayer. The recording quality is atrocious.
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    ^It was quite old.. from 1991..
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    ^It was quite old.. from 1991..
    That isn't an excuse. There are plenty of great recordings from 1991. That one sounds like an 8 track played on an answering machine through a cell phone over an AM radio station.
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    Wow. I have been out of town for a few days - can't believe this thread is still going.

    60 Minutes aired a piece on H1n1 tonight. In it, they showed a high school football player, totally healthy, who came down with it. He is still battling it, since it opened the door for staph pneumonia.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5390519.shtml

    One good thing about this thread is I can see that America is not the only place with a ton of misinformation and hysteria about this.

    To you people that aren't getting the shot - minus those who think this is a government conspiracy or some crap - why not get the shot? What is the downside? Unless you get the nasal mist, the virus is DEAD when you get it. Not even dying or detuned as I read above. DEAD. Like, parrot dead. It cannot hurt you. So why not? 1% of people that get it will have worse symptoms than regular flu - but why risk even getting it in the first place, much less for the scary possibilities if you DO get it?
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