Music Piracy

bartboy9891 · March 1st, 2006, 9:58 PM

what are your thoughts on music piracy?

ryosuke · March 1st, 2006, 10:04 PM

wrong options...because i would say that most sensible people here download lots of music, but do that to check out new bands and then also buy CDs...ok, with my limited budget as a student i cannot buy every CD i download, but p2p networks have enabled me to find lots of new bands and i buy more CDs than ever before.

you also mix up piracy and downloading/sharing. piracy is when you copy lots of CDs and then sell those pirated copies. thats a crime and i condemn that.

jensked · March 1st, 2006, 10:09 PM

watch out for Zendikori or what's his name images/smilies/wink.gif

, coz he'll be in here in no time yelling this and that against the government and the corporate firms images/smilies/tongue.gif

wooflepoof · March 1st, 2006, 10:53 PM

I'd say so long as ur not soley downloading music and not buying the CDs then i dont think theres a problem. Were at the very dawn of an open source and free copyright music revolution and i hope to see the day there's organizations that support bands and allow them to distribute their music for us at no cost other than donations or what have you. Theres some Copyright movement i forget whta its called but it was in the isue of wired that came with the free cd of music you could copy, distribute, and w/e

Lilleput · March 1st, 2006, 10:56 PM

I'd rather keep my money than give them to the tyranic music mega companies, i only buy music i like from smaller lables.

BlaRo · March 1st, 2006, 11:30 PM

I buy CDs only if I really like the songs I've "acquired". I've bought a few because of this, that I otherwise wouldn't have bothered. Downloading music is convenient when you want to sample songs before you decide whether you like the artist or not before wasting 15 bucks on whatever they're trying to pass off as rock music these days.

Firecat · March 1st, 2006, 11:44 PM

I mostly listen to artists that I have respect for, so I don't have any problem spending money on their music.

zenkidori · March 2nd, 2006, 3:04 AM

I don't ever buy CDs, because they break far too quick, are overpriced and good ones are hard to find.

I download music to find new music or sample new tracks, I then go buy the vinyl or head to shows of musicians I like and support.

any music which I download and then don't buy, I never would have bought in the first place so there isn't really any lost money thier. The RIAA and MPAA have horrible loss projections because they take how many times a song has been downloaded, then assume that if people couldn't download it they would have bought it and mutiply that by the cost and voila! they can now rant and rave about piracy costing them "billions" in "lost" revenue.

bartboy9891 · March 2nd, 2006, 3:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryosuke

wrong options...because i would say that most sensible people here download lots of music, but do that to check out new bands and then also buy CDs...ok, with my limited budget as a student i cannot buy every CD i download, but p2p networks have enabled me to find lots of new bands and i buy more CDs than ever before.

you also mix up piracy and downloading/sharing. piracy is when you copy lots of CDs and then sell those pirated copies. thats a crime and i condemn that.

yea, the poll options are kinda flawed. but i tried to keep it simple (yes, no, maybe)

Roman · March 2nd, 2006, 3:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenkidori

The RIAA and MPAA have horrible loss projections because they take how many times a song has been downloaded, then assume that if people couldn't download it they would have bought it and mutiply that by the cost and voila! they can now rant and rave about piracy costing them "billions" in "lost" revenue.

What he said.

Redliner · March 2nd, 2006, 2:06 PM

I would buy it, but knowing that something that costs less than a buck to manufacture is being sold for 30bucks pisses me off (I´m using local currency).
Labels want big bucks from each end every new band they launch, so they pay radio stations to play the record ad nauseum, entering a vicious circle.
A guy here in Brazil came up with a very good idea: if you sell the CD with a magazine, taxes don´t aplly to it, only regular magazine taxes. They magazine+cd combo is sold for 10$, and considering the average price for a magazine is 7$, you pay only 3$ for the CD. Many many unknow bands are using this "loophole" to launch their records.

View Poll Results: how do you feel about it?
its perfectly alright	16	39.02%
i wish i could eliminate it	4	9.76%
downloading a song or two once in a while never hurt anyone	21	51.22%
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March 1st, 2006, 9:58 PM	#1
bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: 1:33 AM Location: University of Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 8,810 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 79	Music Piracy what are your thoughts on music piracy? __________________

March 1st, 2006, 10:04 PM	#2
ryosuke Joined: Jul 28th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2008 Location: franconofurd, germsmany Age: 24 Posts: 1,618 Car: FZ50 GTR Rep Power: 19	wrong options...because i would say that most sensible people here download lots of music, but do that to check out new bands and then also buy CDs...ok, with my limited budget as a student i cannot buy every CD i download, but p2p networks have enabled me to find lots of new bands and i buy more CDs than ever before. you also mix up piracy and downloading/sharing. piracy is when you copy lots of CDs and then sell those pirated copies. thats a crime and i condemn that. __________________ Goddo supiido yuu! Burakku emparaa

March 1st, 2006, 10:09 PM	#3
jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 26 Posts: 4,056 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 49	watch out for Zendikori or what's his name , coz he'll be in here in no time yelling this and that against the government and the corporate firms __________________

March 1st, 2006, 10:53 PM	#4
wooflepoof Square with a title Joined: Jul 18th, 2005 Last Online: 4:39 AM Location: Texas, but I go to school in RI,Canada Age: 22 Posts: 4,166 Car: 1990 BMW 735iL Rep Power: 60	I'd say so long as ur not soley downloading music and not buying the CDs then i dont think theres a problem. Were at the very dawn of an open source and free copyright music revolution and i hope to see the day there's organizations that support bands and allow them to distribute their music for us at no cost other than donations or what have you. Theres some Copyright movement i forget whta its called but it was in the isue of wired that came with the free cd of music you could copy, distribute, and w/e __________________

March 1st, 2006, 10:56 PM	#5
Lilleput Evo-less Joined: Jun 10th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2009 Location: United Kingdom of Denmark Age: 26 Posts: 3,019 Car: Ford S-Max Titanium - 268hp Rep Power: 77	I'd rather keep my money than give them to the tyranic music mega companies, i only buy music i like from smaller lables. __________________

March 1st, 2006, 11:30 PM	#6
BlaRo Lady GaGa's #1 Fan Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 12:35 AM Location: Assachusetts Age: 21 Posts: 11,259 Car: 1997 Yamaha Seca II, 1976 Honda CB550F Rep Power: 372	I buy CDs only if I really like the songs I've "acquired". I've bought a few because of this, that I otherwise wouldn't have bothered. Downloading music is convenient when you want to sample songs before you decide whether you like the artist or not before wasting 15 bucks on whatever they're trying to pass off as rock music these days. __________________ "It is impossible to describe this kind of performance to the uninitiated. Telling a traffic officer or a safety crusader like Ralph Nader that 100 mph can be safe is like reading the Constitution to a Maoist; it is a strange and hostile concept." -Brock Yates. The body was accidentally unearthed from a shallow grave by construction workers. Because of Parkinson's.

March 1st, 2006, 11:44 PM	#7
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: 4:15 AM Posts: 4,448 Rep Power: 48	I mostly listen to artists that I have respect for, so I don't have any problem spending money on their music. __________________

March 2nd, 2006, 3:04 AM	#8
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	I don't ever buy CDs, because they break far too quick, are overpriced and good ones are hard to find. I download music to find new music or sample new tracks, I then go buy the vinyl or head to shows of musicians I like and support. any music which I download and then don't buy, I never would have bought in the first place so there isn't really any lost money thier. The RIAA and MPAA have horrible loss projections because they take how many times a song has been downloaded, then assume that if people couldn't download it they would have bought it and mutiply that by the cost and voila! they can now rant and rave about piracy costing them "billions" in "lost" revenue.

March 2nd, 2006, 2:06 PM	#11
Redliner Joined: May 19th, 2005 Last Online: 3:09 AM Location: Brazil - South America Age: 30 Posts: 5,288 Car: Fiat Palio 1.6 16v Rep Power: 114	I would buy it, but knowing that something that costs less than a buck to manufacture is being sold for 30bucks pisses me off (I´m using local currency). Labels want big bucks from each end every new band they launch, so they pay radio stations to play the record ad nauseum, entering a vicious circle. A guy here in Brazil came up with a very good idea: if you sell the CD with a magazine, taxes don´t aplly to it, only regular magazine taxes. They magazine+cd combo is sold for 10$, and considering the average price for a magazine is 7$, you pay only 3$ for the CD. Many many unknow bands are using this "loophole" to launch their records. __________________ God told me to give you candy.

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