Search for Titanic was Cold War cover story

Blind_Io · May 25th, 2008, 2:35 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...lear-subs.html

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A mission to find the lost wreck of the Titanic was actually a cover story for inspecting the wrecks of two nuclear submarines, the man who discovered the famous liner has revealed.
Dr Bob Ballard led a team in 1985 that pinpointed the wreckage of the enormous ship 73 years after it sank in the Atlantic. But he almost didn't succeed after his top secret mission to find two Cold War subs left him with just 12 days to find the Titanic.
The United States Navy lost two submarines during the 1960s - the USS Thresher and USS Scorpion - which had more than 200 men on board.
Officials feared at least one of them had been sunk by the USSR. When Dr Ballard approached the Navy for funding to find the Titanic using his robotic submarine craft, they asked him to discover the submarines first.
"I couldn't tell anybody," the oceanographer said.
"There was a lot of pressure on me. It was a secret mission. I felt it was a fair exchange for getting a chance to look for the Titanic."
He added: "We handed the data to the experts. They never told us what they concluded – our job was to collect the data. I can only talk about it now because it has been declassified."
The USS Thresher (SSN-593) was the lead ship of her class of nuclear-powered attack submarines. She was lost during deep-sea diving tests in 1963 after a high-pressure pipe blew causing the vessel to lose power and implode as it sank.

However, the USS Scorpion disappeared in 1968 amid speculation that it was sunk by Soviet forces.

Dr Ballard mapped both submarine wrecks using his newly developed underwater robot craft. He concluded that the most likely cause of the Scorpion's destruction was being hit by a rogue torpedo it had fired itself.

Investigating the wrecks gave Dr Ballard the idea of finding a trail of debris that would lead him to the Titanic. Both the Thresher and Scorpion had both broken into thousands of pieces.

He criss-crossed the North Atlantic seabed and eventually found a debris trail that led him to the luxury liner's final resting-place.
He found the Titanic split in two but had little time to explore further. It was not until he returned to the site in 1986 that he was able to make a detailed study.

cvrefugee · May 25th, 2008, 2:38 AM

What about the Red October and its caterpillar drive? images/smilies/smile.gif

Viper007Bond · May 25th, 2008, 2:38 AM

Wow, damn.

Donington · May 25th, 2008, 3:00 AM

Is nothing as it seems?

Next they'll be saying that the climb to Everest was really all about getting to the world's most powerful Nintendo Power Glove before the Nazis!

cdbob · May 25th, 2008, 4:07 AM

Well at least we know now, it really makes you think how much do we not know

KaJuN · May 25th, 2008, 5:45 AM

A good fiction writer would have a hard time coming up with a story like that. I love it!

Hidden_Hunter · May 25th, 2008, 6:10 AM

all it needs now is blofeld

Ramseus · May 25th, 2008, 6:25 AM

THE SOVIETS SANK THE TITANIC!

toma_alimosh · May 25th, 2008, 7:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseus

THE SOVIETS SANK THE TITANIC!

Nice going, chief, way to make the link. images/smilies/tongue.gif

jeffy777 · May 25th, 2008, 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by toma_alimosh

Nice going, chief, way to make the link. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Make the link? Yeah.....rrrrrrright. More like way to miss the point images/smilies/lol.gif

Viper007Bond · May 25th, 2008, 8:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffy777

Make the link? Yeah.....rrrrrrright. More like way to miss the point images/smilies/lol.gif

Or maybe he was making a joke. images/smilies/tongue.gif

jeffy777 · May 25th, 2008, 8:24 AM

^^^ That would be the only logical explanation images/smilies/smile.gif

toma_alimosh · May 25th, 2008, 5:09 PM

^Yes, he was making a joke and I was making a joke. Unfortunately, sarcasm isn't communicated very well by written text. images/smilies/smile.gif

Hidden_Hunter · May 25th, 2008, 9:46 PM

don't worry, neither of the jokes were funny

if that makes you feel any better?

toma_alimosh · May 25th, 2008, 10:29 PM

^ They weren't meant to be funny. They were meant to bash conspiracy theorists. images/smilies/smile.gif

British_Rover · May 26th, 2008, 2:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KaJuN

A good fiction writer would have a hard time coming up with a story like that. I love it!

The whole thing sounds like a Clive Cussler novel...

http://homepages.tesco.net/~parsonsp/assets/images/raisetitanic.jpg

Labcoatguy · May 26th, 2008, 2:40 AM

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Originally Posted by British_Rover

The whole thing sounds like a Clive Cussler novel...

Yeah, it just sounds way too fantastic to be real...but then again many Cold War stories/technologies/plans were.

BTW, for anyone about to lambaste Clive Cussler for being stupid, that book was written before they found out that the Titanic broke in half.

Twerp128 · May 26th, 2008, 5:45 AM

^Clive Cussler is a retard. The Titanic broke in two!

jensked · May 26th, 2008, 6:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KaJuN

A good fiction writer would have a hard time coming up with a story like that. I love it!

Real life is ALWAYS harder to believe than fiction.

bafranksbro · May 26th, 2008, 2:12 PM

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Originally Posted by toma_alimosh

^ They weren't meant to be funny. They were meant to bash conspiracy theorists. images/smilies/smile.gif

Oh no, I actually had half a laugh at them. I mean only half a laugh since you know it wasn't that funny, only half a laugh funny. Not worthy of a full, entire, and complete laugh. Lasted about half a second. images/smilies/lol.gif

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