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Old July 31st, 2009, 7:11 PM   #1
 
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Default The 15 largest container ships create more pollution than ALL the worlds cars !!!!

It's now been revealed, after I have suspected it for some considerable time, that ocean going container ships are a massive source of pollution and greenhouse gasses. I wasn't however fully prepared for just how massive. It has been stated that the 15 largest vessels currently in use pump out more greenhouse gasses and pollution (particulate) than ALL of the worlds cars COMBINED. The fact that there are some 90,000 large container vessels continuously in motion around the globe highlights this as a significant oversight by policy-makers when they target taxes in an attempt to encourage any reduction in pollution.

I have said for a long time that there is no justification for us buying imported food products, except for some exotic products which would prove impossible or financially ridiculous to try and grow here. With the new-age greenhouse horticulture and sites 20x the size of football pitches able to grow pretty much anything all year 'round, even that is unnecessary. Even the cars we buy create more pollution in their manufacture and transportation to the first private owner than they will ever produce in their useful lifetime.

If, and there is the crux, any politicians take any notice whatsoever of these new facts, do further research and tailor policy to actually have an effect then we might see a return to localised manufacturing and production of many things. However, as we all know that the policy-makers tailor policy to simply accrue as much wealth as possible, that these statistics will be graced with fingers in their ears and chants of 'La-la-la' until tomorrows newspapers are wrapped around some fish'n'chips, and the apathetic public simply carry on paying excessive tax theft in the name of changing sweet FA !

Rant over, aaahhh !

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ping-pollution

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more greenhouse gasses than ALL of the worlds cars COMBINED.
Let's take CO2, under the assumptions that bunker fuel and regular gas produce the same amount when burnt... then we can use CO2 = consumption images/smilies/smile.gif

15 huge ships will burn about a million gallons a day while at sea. At 25mpg that's 25 million miles of car travel. There are over 500 million cars in the world. If every car did an average of 0.05 miles a day (18 miles a year) then they will put out similar CO2 as those 15 ships.
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Cars driving 15,000km a year emit approximately 101 grammes of sulphur oxide gases (or SOx) in that time. The world's largest ships' diesel engines which typically operate for about 280 days a year generate roughly 5,200 tonnes of SOx.
Not all pollution is CO2 !
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...which is why i quoted "greenhouse gasses", CO2 is the most blamed greenhouse gas by far.
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Repost, repost, repost ! If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute, close the window and move on. Some people might have a few spare hours to extensively search the forums to see if a subject has been discussed previously, others choose to open a thread for a friendly discussion on a subject. It doesn't hurt to do so, doesn't cost any money and is no detribute to anyones existence, so get off your high horses and post something useful or clear off !
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Large companies that own large container ships are more difficult to blame and bully than everyday people that drive cars.

Ordinary cars are really not that big contributors to pollution, but they are the easiest to blame. Big companies have the money to make politicians decide in their favor.
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