Hey, I'm back (yes, I know, you care...not) with a new camera and a question...

epp_b · May 24th, 2008, 06:20 PM

So, I just bought a new Nikon D40 kit with an 18-55mm lens. I love it. It takes fantastic pictures.

Anyway, I'll be going to a concert tonight. This is my favorite band and I would love to get some shots of them playing live, but the ticket says "No Cameras/Recorders". Now, it's been a long time since I've gone to a concert, and I have no idea what the "security" will be like (I figure the worst that can happen is I'll have to go put it back in my car).

So, my questions are...

Should I just try to conceal it? I'd prefer to take the whole bag (not a terribly big bag, but not particularly easy to hide). I can take off the lens to put in an inside pocket of my jacket and then carry the camera body on my person (wearing the neckstrap under my jacket).
This concert is in a hockey arena. I don't have floor seats, I'm in the first (lowest) section of one end of the rink, the band will be playing about three-quarters down the length of the rink. The rink surface is regulation size (200' x 85'), I should be, at most, 250 feet from the stage. With the highest resolution (6.1MP) and quality, will I get good pictures from where I'm sitting?

I expect an answer from you shortly, BerserkerCatSplat images/smilies/tongue.gif

(kidding, of course images/smilies/wink.gif

)

LeVeL · May 24th, 2008, 06:57 PM

Pretty much at all concerts I've gone to, secutiry makes you take everything out of your pockets and then they pat you down.

Speedtouch · May 24th, 2008, 06:57 PM

^ What bands do you go and see?

They are only trying to (unfortunately for you) stop DSLRs as they will have paid photographers there. Small compact digital cameras, they don't care about, but with a DSLR they are likely to tell you to put it away or they will confiscate it. But if you are further away, the less likely you are going to be stopped.

And it will be interesting to see the pictures you can get, because I am (hopefully) getting a D40 soon(ish), but it seems as if Alok has gone missing.

Shadowness · May 24th, 2008, 07:02 PM

Most gigs I go to, they are only stopping peeps with detachable lens cameras ie SLRs. So as above, you may be screwed!
Not really a lot of advice I can give as Ive never done it lol!

matt2000 · May 24th, 2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedtouch

And it will be interesting to see the pictures you can get, because I am (hopefully) getting a D40 soon(ish), but it seems as if Alok has gone missing.

You won't regret it. images/smilies/smile.gif

I love my D40 and I get angry when I have to use the old compact camera. images/smilies/lol.gif

I'm not a music concert person though so no advice from me.

Viper007Bond · May 24th, 2008, 08:42 PM

The ones I've gone to wouldn't even let me take my shitty Powershot into.

Speedtouch · May 24th, 2008, 08:43 PM

^ Really? Seems awfully strange. I've taken my compact into all the gigs I've been to, and no-one cares.

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Originally Posted by matt2000

I'm not a music concert person though so no advice from me.

You need to go to a proper gig. As long as its a band you like then once it gets going, it is the best moment of your life. I've been to 2 Muse gigs, and seriously, they are insane.

epp_b · May 24th, 2008, 08:50 PM

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And it will be interesting to see the pictures you can get, because I am (hopefully) getting a D40 soon(ish), but it seems as if Alok has gone missing.

It takes excellent pictures -- you won't be sorry.

Viper007Bond · May 24th, 2008, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speedtouch

^ Really? Seems awfully strange. I've taken my compact into all the gigs I've been to, and no-one cares.

This was a few years ago and may have been a unique experience. I dunno.

jayhawk · May 24th, 2008, 09:02 PM

I would leave it at home. For one, you won't have to worry about it being confiscated; what if the person who took it decided to keep it for themselves?
Secondly, you won't have to worry about it getting banged around or stolen by retards who are either high or drunk. Or both.
Thirdly, it will be so dark the pictures will come out super crappy and blurred, unless you crank the F stop down to below 5, turn the ISO to max, and shoot at 1/80th of a second. And 55mm is about what you see through your own eyes, so expect everyone on stage to be teeny weeny; you would need at least 135mm of zoom.

powah · May 24th, 2008, 09:03 PM

Oh that's a shame you can't bring cameras in. I was allowed the last concert I went to and some of the pics turned out quite well.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9371/p1120720yo8.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6448/p1120724ue5.jpg

rootrider · May 25th, 2008, 08:13 AM

the d40 has the same sensor as the d70, d100, and d50, but with some updated software. Of course it'll take good pics images/smilies/smile.gif

epp_b · May 25th, 2008, 02:58 PM

Well, I brought the camera along, but "security" at the door said I could take it in as long as I'm not caught using it (uhmm...?), so I left it in the trunk of my car. I found out only later that if you're caught once, you only get a warning. Had I known that, I'd have taken it in, been careful, and just stopped if I received a warning. Shucks.

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I would leave it at home. For one, you won't have to worry about it being confiscated;

They can't confiscate it. They're rent-a-cops, not government authority. Confiscation would be theft.

Quote:

Thirdly, it will be so dark the pictures will come out super crappy and blurred, unless you crank the F stop down to below 5, turn the ISO to max, and shoot at 1/80th of a second. And 55mm is about what you see through your own eyes, so expect everyone on stage to be teeny weeny; you would need at least 135mm of zoom.

Well, that's what I was wondering.

Raparperi · May 28th, 2008, 08:53 PM

My two cents: Unless you have proper equipment (meaning expensive lenses and pro bodies) and access to the photographers area, I'd just leave the camera gear at home and enjoy the show. Your memories will most probably be better than the few crappy shots you _might_ get images/smilies/smile.gif

BerserkerCatSplat · May 29th, 2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by epp_b

I expect an answer from you shortly, BerserkerCatSplat images/smilies/tongue.gif

(kidding, of course images/smilies/wink.gif

)

Hahaha, missed this thread completely, whoops! images/smilies/lol.gif

I'm with Raparperi - leave the cam at home and have a good time. Concert lighting is the second-worst lighting I've had to deal with and it's extremely demanding on equipment to get it right. With lighting that bad, ISO800 @ f/1.4 is sometimes needed to get a decent exposure. Having to worry about getting kicked out is just another reason that it's just not worth the hassle.

May 24th, 2008, 06:20 PM	#1
epp_b n00b of the year Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: 06:25 PM Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 4,195 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 30	Hey, I'm back (yes, I know, you care...not) with a new camera and a question... So, I just bought a new Nikon D40 kit with an 18-55mm lens. I love it. It takes fantastic pictures. Anyway, I'll be going to a concert tonight. This is my favorite band and I would love to get some shots of them playing live, but the ticket says "No Cameras/Recorders". Now, it's been a long time since I've gone to a concert, and I have no idea what the "security" will be like (I figure the worst that can happen is I'll have to go put it back in my car). So, my questions are... Should I just try to conceal it? I'd prefer to take the whole bag (not a terribly big bag, but not particularly easy to hide). I can take off the lens to put in an inside pocket of my jacket and then carry the camera body on my person (wearing the neckstrap under my jacket). This concert is in a hockey arena. I don't have floor seats, I'm in the first (lowest) section of one end of the rink, the band will be playing about three-quarters down the length of the rink. The rink surface is regulation size (200' x 85'), I should be, at most, 250 feet from the stage. With the highest resolution (6.1MP) and quality, will I get good pictures from where I'm sitting? I expect an answer from you shortly, BerserkerCatSplat (kidding, of course )

May 24th, 2008, 06:57 PM	#2
LeVeL Joined: Jun 16th, 2007 Last Online: 11:17 AM Location: MA Age: 20 Posts: 676 Car: VQ30 Rep Power: 13	Pretty much at all concerts I've gone to, secutiry makes you take everything out of your pockets and then they pat you down. __________________ Cardinal of Karting . . . flickr . . . . . . . . . . . GetLeVeLed.org + UMass Motorsport . . .

May 24th, 2008, 06:57 PM	#3
Speedtouch Joined: Jul 30th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Kent, England Age: 16 Posts: 2,542 Rep Power: 28	^ What bands do you go and see? They are only trying to (unfortunately for you) stop DSLRs as they will have paid photographers there. Small compact digital cameras, they don't care about, but with a DSLR they are likely to tell you to put it away or they will confiscate it. But if you are further away, the less likely you are going to be stopped. And it will be interesting to see the pictures you can get, because I am (hopefully) getting a D40 soon(ish), but it seems as if Alok has gone missing. __________________ I Don't Know Where I'd Be Without This Forum. Thanks So Much

May 24th, 2008, 07:02 PM	#4
Shadowness Joined: Jun 20th, 2005 Last Online: 06:53 PM Location: Midlands, UK Age: 21 Posts: 1,035 Car: Renault Clio Rep Power: 21	Most gigs I go to, they are only stopping peeps with detachable lens cameras ie SLRs. So as above, you may be screwed! Not really a lot of advice I can give as Ive never done it lol! __________________ Photo gallery----> http://www.danfreemanphotography.com/

May 24th, 2008, 08:42 PM	#6
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 03:30 PM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,208 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 224	The ones I've gone to wouldn't even let me take my shitty Powershot into. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

May 24th, 2008, 09:02 PM	#10
jayhawk Cigar Smoking Man Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 11:42 AM Location: Listening to stories from the Brân Lwyd. Age: 32 Posts: 4,804 Car: MY07 G11 WRX-TR WRB. Rep Power: 77	I would leave it at home. For one, you won't have to worry about it being confiscated; what if the person who took it decided to keep it for themselves? Secondly, you won't have to worry about it getting banged around or stolen by retards who are either high or drunk. Or both. Thirdly, it will be so dark the pictures will come out super crappy and blurred, unless you crank the F stop down to below 5, turn the ISO to max, and shoot at 1/80th of a second. And 55mm is about what you see through your own eyes, so expect everyone on stage to be teeny weeny; you would need at least 135mm of zoom. __________________ It is nice to have friends like you on this forum. In the wee hours I'll meet you, down by Dun Ringill. Wife is re-employed....maybe I will show up unexpectantly at the next Nürburgring meet... Last edited by jayhawk; May 24th, 2008 at 09:05 PM.

May 24th, 2008, 09:03 PM	#11
powah Previously Known As powerof1000 Joined: Mar 13th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: NZ Age: 15 Posts: 1,232 Rep Power: 11	Oh that's a shame you can't bring cameras in. I was allowed the last concert I went to and some of the pics turned out quite well. __________________

May 25th, 2008, 08:13 AM	#12
rootrider -VW Golf- Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: July 15th, 2008 Location: Kirkland, WA (USA) Age: 27 Posts: 571 Car: '85 vw gti Rep Power: 15	the d40 has the same sensor as the d70, d100, and d50, but with some updated software. Of course it'll take good pics __________________ my cars \| my photos camera gear: D300, D70, FA, 80-200 2.8, 17-50 2.8, 50mm 1.8, 300mm F/4, 18-70,

May 28th, 2008, 08:53 PM	#14
Raparperi Joined: Jul 18th, 2006 Last Online: 03:23 PM Location: Tampere, Finland Age: 26 Posts: 597 Car: '94 Ford Escort 1.8i STW Rep Power: 17	My two cents: Unless you have proper equipment (meaning expensive lenses and pro bodies) and access to the photographers area, I'd just leave the camera gear at home and enjoy the show. Your memories will most probably be better than the few crappy shots you _might_ get __________________ My gallery: http://raparperi.1g.fi/kuvat/ (links are mostly in Finnish)

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