atheist and non-believers, are you offended?

justin syder · January 14th, 2005, 05:16 AM

Anyone that does not believe in God or religion...lets say a religious christian, not me, comes up to you with a Bible and says "you need to go to church". "You are a sinner and will go to hell if you don't repent".

Question- Would you be offended?

That person just says that and you leave, they dont harrass you or force you to read anything, would you be offended by what they said?

Just curious.

Kip_6666 · January 14th, 2005, 05:30 AM

I've never had one of those people come up to me and say it like that.

But some time ago, when me and my brother were about 10 and 9 this woman came up to us and told us that jesus loves us, Maybe tryin to mould our young impressionable minds or something, whatever.
I responded with huh, then my brother asked the woman if jesus was a pedo. I couldn't stop laughing images/smilies/lol.gif

She just walked away shakeing her head :/

justin syder · January 14th, 2005, 05:35 AM

But if someone came up to you and started a convo and said you are going to hell, would that offend you?

More importantly, are you an Atheist, dont believe in God?

Kip_6666 · January 14th, 2005, 05:44 AM

yes and yes, and don't start preaching at me please.

bone · January 14th, 2005, 05:54 AM

i would feel pitty for the beleiver, being brainwashed and stuff

but it happened to us, a few years ago, we were smoking joints after school, suddenly a dutch guy came to gospel the protestant church, i don't who was conviced the most at the end, we to follow his beleive, or he that relegion is BS

we did have a nice talk and a good laugh afterwards images/smilies/smile.gif

Roland · January 14th, 2005, 07:48 AM

I'm a christian. Not an extreeme in any way. Maby go to church only one or two times a year. However i would be offended. Who would he be to tell me what god thinks. Only the "Mighy Lord" images/smilies/biggrin.gif

knows that. That person is not the one who decides who goes to hell and not, if there even is a hell (which i don't believe).

bone · January 14th, 2005, 08:09 AM

u beleive in god, but you don't beleive in hell. how stupid is that, so no matter what u do, you'll always end up in heaven

how can there be sth good, when there is nothing bad to compare with??

Viper007Bond · January 14th, 2005, 08:10 AM

I'm not "offended", I'm just annoyed to death and have to strongly resist the urge to smack them for what is in my opinion, complete ignorance.

Chade · January 14th, 2005, 09:03 AM

I'm atheist and I don't understand why I would be offended if someone told me I will go somewhere after I've died. As I see it it's their problem, not mine...

mmap · January 14th, 2005, 09:19 AM

Like Viper I would be annoyed, not offended. I am, in pinciple, a christian but haven't been to church since my confirmation, so religion is not exactly high in my priorities...

I feel that I do not need to find fullfilment into my life from religion, but if someone finds happiness from it then I am happy for them. I just hope that they are smart enough to realise it is not for everyone.

Daniel · January 14th, 2005, 09:22 AM

I dont believe in nothing Id say. Nor do I reject anything. Ill find it all out when Im dead, but I find it most likely that things just get kinda black. I dont care if someone tells me that Ill go to hell, The way I see it, They are the ones that have a problem. images/smilies/smile.gif

Lets chill... 8)

Dr. Woo · January 14th, 2005, 09:29 AM

As Roland already said...I find that to be offensive, and I'm a Christian. God is the only one who decides who goes to heaven and to hell...some religious nutjob who decides to come up to a random person and tell them they're going to hell certainly doesn't fall under a good light in my eyes.

But I guess I can't vote since I'm not an atheist. images/smilies/tongue.gif

Jostyrostelli · January 14th, 2005, 10:21 AM

I feel sorry for those people, walking around with a bible and with every question they get they have to think "How does "God" want me to answer this".

I had some people at the door trying to convince me that "Jesus and God" love me and whatever bullshit they ranted about. I'm always friendly at those people at the first time but when I say "NO" it's NO and not "no, but actually I'd like you to annoy me more and come into my house", No Fucking Way! Get a life, get a wife and get laid, don't waste your time with doing this. Not trying to offend anyone here and I'm only talking about the "extreme-pushing christian believers" but they annoy the crap out of me. I had a few nice talks with them on the streets as well with a friend, that was fun but I got the idea they are somewhat brainwashed.

swek · January 14th, 2005, 10:37 AM

I am not baptized and I don't care what some christian extremist might think about that.
If someone would say to me that I'll go to hell I would walk straight away.

hanasand · January 14th, 2005, 10:54 AM

I'm an atheist,
and I would laugh if someone came up to me and told me that. I'd only think to
myself that it's kind of annoying he or she wont ever find out that they were
actually wrong because it will all go black on them before they get to see that 8)

But then again there might be something, it all seems possible when the
universe is endless. My brain can't figure out infinite, and nor can yours figure
out what's after life. We don't have that amount of brain capacity yet, sadly images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Let's say christianity, or any other religion for that sake, is the one that's actually
"true". By christian means, regarding to the bible (Don't come along with personal
interpretations now because they are nothing against the bible), I will go to hell
because I am a non-believer.
Now, what comforts me is this: If I've lived my life as a more compassionate human
being than for instance my christian and believing neighbour and have to go
to hell because of it. Then that's not a god I would like to be affiliated with anyways.
May I burn in hell yes thank you images/smilies/eek.gif

bone · January 14th, 2005, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jostyrostelli

I had some people at the door trying to convince me that "Jesus and God" love me and whatever bullshit they ranted about. I'm always friendly at those people at the first time but when I say "NO" it's NO and not "no, but actually I'd like you to annoy me more and come into my house", No Fucking Way! Get a life, get a wife and get laid, don't waste your time with doing this. Not trying to offend anyone here and I'm only talking about the "extreme-pushing christian believers" but they annoy the crap out of me. I had a few nice talks with them on the streets as well with a friend, that was fun but I got the idea they are somewhat brainwashed.

over here yehova-witnesses (or however you translat it) come from door to door

if you even wanne meet a stupid religion, try this one

Jostyrostelli · January 14th, 2005, 12:28 PM

Yeah Jehovas too, I wont even open the door for them, they will push little minibibles or whatever in your hand, and if you accept "the gift" they'll write down the adress and come back later to ask if you "are open" to God or Jesus or whatever believe..

swek · January 14th, 2005, 12:33 PM

I think I've withnessed a Jehovas exam once on my door. There was this younger dude and a older one. The young one spoke to me nervously while the older one made notes.
I thought it would be rude to let him fail it so I talked to him about Angels images/smilies/lol.gif

ESPNSTI · January 14th, 2005, 12:48 PM

For the most part I think I'm atheist, but I guess what better describes my position is: I'm not sure.
I wouldn't be offended if some said I was going to hell.

What always bugs me is if there is a God and he's all powerful and good then why is there a hell?

That always brings me to the conclusion that if God exists, God is either not all powerfull, or he's a bit sadistic.
If he's all powerfull, that means he willingly sends people to hell, and he willingly makes people suffer on earth.
If not that then he's not all powerful.

The other question that always bugs me is, if there is a God, who created him?

My upbringing was roman catholic, but I haven't been to church in 18 years or so (except weddings and such).

chaos386 · January 14th, 2005, 02:16 PM

I'm a Muslim (though not really a religious one), and I would be offended at first, but if he didn't push the matter or harass me I'd let it go. I think it's only non-Atheists who would be offended at this, because it's a direct attack on their religion or faith, but Atheists don't believe in Hell in the first place so they don't care.

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January 14th, 2005, 05:16 AM	#1
justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: October 29th, 2007 Location: New York, USA Age: 27 Posts: 4,087 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 24	atheist and non-believers, are you offended? Anyone that does not believe in God or religion...lets say a religious christian, not me, comes up to you with a Bible and says "you need to go to church". "You are a sinner and will go to hell if you don't repent". Question- Would you be offended? That person just says that and you leave, they dont harrass you or force you to read anything, would you be offended by what they said? Just curious. __________________ Top Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=179 5th Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=931 Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

January 14th, 2005, 05:30 AM	#2
Kip_6666 I Bought This Title :o Joined: May 17th, 2004 Last Online: 05:27 PM Location: The Netherlands Age: 22 Posts: 2,951 Car: Saab 93 2.0t @ stage 1 Rep Power: 29	I've never had one of those people come up to me and say it like that. But some time ago, when me and my brother were about 10 and 9 this woman came up to us and told us that jesus loves us, Maybe tryin to mould our young impressionable minds or something, whatever. I responded with huh, then my brother asked the woman if jesus was a pedo. I couldn't stop laughing She just walked away shakeing her head :/ __________________ http://www.internet-memes.com My Flickr

January 14th, 2005, 05:35 AM	#3
justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: October 29th, 2007 Location: New York, USA Age: 27 Posts: 4,087 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 24	But if someone came up to you and started a convo and said you are going to hell, would that offend you? More importantly, are you an Atheist, dont believe in God? __________________ Top Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=179 5th Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=931 Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

January 14th, 2005, 05:44 AM	#4
Kip_6666 I Bought This Title :o Joined: May 17th, 2004 Last Online: 05:27 PM Location: The Netherlands Age: 22 Posts: 2,951 Car: Saab 93 2.0t @ stage 1 Rep Power: 29	yes and yes, and don't start preaching at me please. __________________ http://www.internet-memes.com My Flickr

January 14th, 2005, 05:54 AM	#5
bone "bangle for president" Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: October 3rd, 2008 Location: belgium!! Age: 24 Posts: 6,069 Car: yamaha banshee (and an opel astra from work) Rep Power: 28	i would feel pitty for the beleiver, being brainwashed and stuff but it happened to us, a few years ago, we were smoking joints after school, suddenly a dutch guy came to gospel the protestant church, i don't who was conviced the most at the end, we to follow his beleive, or he that relegion is BS we did have a nice talk and a good laugh afterwards __________________ groups/artists i've seen live: coldplay, the cure, cypress hill, damian marley, deftones, depeche mode, dEUS, franz ferdinand, grandaddy, guns n' roses, interpol, jamiroquai, korn, lenny kravits, marilyn manson, massive attack, metallica, moby, muse, the pixies, placebo, prodigy, queens of the stone age, the raconteurs, radiohead, red hot chili peppers, REM, skin, tool, the who, Wu-Tang and so many more...

January 14th, 2005, 07:48 AM	#6
Roland Joined: Nov 9th, 2004 Last Online: January 9th, 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 20 Posts: 331 Rep Power: 0	I'm a christian. Not an extreeme in any way. Maby go to church only one or two times a year. However i would be offended. Who would he be to tell me what god thinks. Only the "Mighy Lord" knows that. That person is not the one who decides who goes to hell and not, if there even is a hell (which i don't believe). __________________

January 14th, 2005, 08:09 AM	#7
bone "bangle for president" Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: October 3rd, 2008 Location: belgium!! Age: 24 Posts: 6,069 Car: yamaha banshee (and an opel astra from work) Rep Power: 28	u beleive in god, but you don't beleive in hell. how stupid is that, so no matter what u do, you'll always end up in heaven how can there be sth good, when there is nothing bad to compare with?? __________________ groups/artists i've seen live: coldplay, the cure, cypress hill, damian marley, deftones, depeche mode, dEUS, franz ferdinand, grandaddy, guns n' roses, interpol, jamiroquai, korn, lenny kravits, marilyn manson, massive attack, metallica, moby, muse, the pixies, placebo, prodigy, queens of the stone age, the raconteurs, radiohead, red hot chili peppers, REM, skin, tool, the who, Wu-Tang and so many more...

January 14th, 2005, 08:10 AM	#8
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 01:15 PM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,641 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 229	I'm not "offended", I'm just annoyed to death and have to strongly resist the urge to smack them for what is in my opinion, complete ignorance. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

January 14th, 2005, 09:03 AM	#9
Chade Joined: Nov 29th, 2004 Last Online: July 5th, 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 130 Rep Power: 0	I'm atheist and I don't understand why I would be offended if someone told me I will go somewhere after I've died. As I see it it's their problem, not mine... __________________ My car: Maserati 222E - http://hln.nu/maserati

January 14th, 2005, 09:19 AM	#10
mmap Joined: Sep 12th, 2004 Last Online: 03:41 PM Location: Finland Age: 29 Posts: 1,225 Car: Opel Astra / Suzuki VX800 Rep Power: 18	Like Viper I would be annoyed, not offended. I am, in pinciple, a christian but haven't been to church since my confirmation, so religion is not exactly high in my priorities... I feel that I do not need to find fullfilment into my life from religion, but if someone finds happiness from it then I am happy for them. I just hope that they are smart enough to realise it is not for everyone.

January 14th, 2005, 09:22 AM	#11
Daniel Joined: Sep 25th, 2004 Last Online: May 29th, 2005 Location: Stavanger - Norway Posts: 2,339 Rep Power: 0	I dont believe in nothing Id say. Nor do I reject anything. Ill find it all out when Im dead, but I find it most likely that things just get kinda black. I dont care if someone tells me that Ill go to hell, The way I see it, They are the ones that have a problem. Lets chill... 8) __________________ Jeremy Clarkson's Online Articles

January 14th, 2005, 09:29 AM	#12
Dr. Woo Joined: Jan 3rd, 2005 Last Online: June 27th, 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,126 Rep Power: 0	As Roland already said...I find that to be offensive, and I'm a Christian. God is the only one who decides who goes to heaven and to hell...some religious nutjob who decides to come up to a random person and tell them they're going to hell certainly doesn't fall under a good light in my eyes. But I guess I can't vote since I'm not an atheist. __________________

January 14th, 2005, 10:21 AM	#13
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: August 5th, 2008 Posts: 8,060 Rep Power: 26	I feel sorry for those people, walking around with a bible and with every question they get they have to think "How does "God" want me to answer this". I had some people at the door trying to convince me that "Jesus and God" love me and whatever bullshit they ranted about. I'm always friendly at those people at the first time but when I say "NO" it's NO and not "no, but actually I'd like you to annoy me more and come into my house", No Fucking Way! Get a life, get a wife and get laid, don't waste your time with doing this. Not trying to offend anyone here and I'm only talking about the "extreme-pushing christian believers" but they annoy the crap out of me. I had a few nice talks with them on the streets as well with a friend, that was fun but I got the idea they are somewhat brainwashed. __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

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swek Global Moderator Joined: May 19th, 2004 Last Online: 06:13 PM Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 26 Posts: 4,300 Car: Does a bicycle count? Rep Power: 41	I am not baptized and I don't care what some christian extremist might think about that. If someone would say to me that I'll go to hell I would walk straight away.

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January 14th, 2005, 10:54 AM	#15
hanasand Despot Joined: Sep 27th, 2004 Last Online: May 24th, 2008 Location: Stavanger, Norway Age: 21 Posts: 1,300 Rep Power: 0	I'm an atheist, and I would laugh if someone came up to me and told me that. I'd only think to myself that it's kind of annoying he or she wont ever find out that they were actually wrong because it will all go black on them before they get to see that 8) But then again there might be something, it all seems possible when the universe is endless. My brain can't figure out infinite, and nor can yours figure out what's after life. We don't have that amount of brain capacity yet, sadly Let's say christianity, or any other religion for that sake, is the one that's actually "true". By christian means, regarding to the bible (Don't come along with personal interpretations now because they are nothing against the bible), I will go to hell because I am a non-believer. Now, what comforts me is this: If I've lived my life as a more compassionate human being than for instance my christian and believing neighbour and have to go to hell because of it. Then that's not a god I would like to be affiliated with anyways. May I burn in hell yes thank you __________________ "Maybe, maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself. http://www.majestet.com

January 14th, 2005, 12:28 PM	#17
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: August 5th, 2008 Posts: 8,060 Rep Power: 26	Yeah Jehovas too, I wont even open the door for them, they will push little minibibles or whatever in your hand, and if you accept "the gift" they'll write down the adress and come back later to ask if you "are open" to God or Jesus or whatever believe.. __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

January 14th, 2005, 12:33 PM	#18
swek Global Moderator Joined: May 19th, 2004 Last Online: 06:13 PM Location: Hamburg, Germany Age: 26 Posts: 4,300 Car: Does a bicycle count? Rep Power: 41	I think I've withnessed a Jehovas exam once on my door. There was this younger dude and a older one. The young one spoke to me nervously while the older one made notes. I thought it would be rude to let him fail it so I talked to him about Angels

January 14th, 2005, 12:48 PM	#19
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January 14th, 2005, 02:16 PM	#20
chaos386 .sa = bad driver! Joined: Nov 8th, 2004 Last Online: 11:38 AM Location: Al-Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 22 Posts: 3,253 LFS Status: Rep Power: 49	I'm a Muslim (though not really a religious one), and I would be offended at first, but if he didn't push the matter or harass me I'd let it go. I think it's only non-Atheists who would be offended at this, because it's a direct attack on their religion or faith, but Atheists don't believe in Hell in the first place so they don't care.