Canada said yes - Page 2

zenkidori · June 30th, 2005, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M

You do know what the term 'Jesusland' refers to right?

I should clarify, no I don't think all Americans are hicks that think gay people are second class citizens. On the other hand, they elected a hick that thinks gay people are second class citizens.

only half of us, and just barely.

Mischief007 · June 30th, 2005, 03:35 AM

About time this has been passed. Now we can concentrate on more important issues. images/smilies/wink.gif

///M · June 30th, 2005, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jostyrostelli

^I think gaypeople don't do themselfs a favour by having these gayevents all the time, gayparade, gaymagazines, gayclubs etc etc. Like heterosexual people are not allowed there. Do heterosexual people offend gaypeople by saying they are 'different'?
No they (not all of course) make themselfs 'different' from heterosexual people by having their own events and stuff. I don't have anything against it, but then don't complain that they are treated different by some people.

When society is full of bigots that consider you an outcast, you're only forced to resort to gay clubs, magazines, parades, etc.

cvrefugee · June 30th, 2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M

When society is full of bigots that consider you an outcast, you're only forced to resort to gay clubs, magazines, parades, etc.

Nobody forces gay people to do anything. I mean, great, you suck another man's penis, okay...let's make a parade about it. images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

The worst thing I've ever heard is how some gay people equate their 'struggle' to that of the blacks during the 1960s civil rights era. Skin color is genetic, homosexuality isn't. Nobody chooses their skin color, well, except for Michael Jackson.

///M · June 30th, 2005, 06:47 AM

What's your point exactly?

Are you trying to say that gay people have had equal rights all this time?

Do you get annoyed at feminists too?

cvrefugee · June 30th, 2005, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M

What's your point exactly?

Are you trying to say that gay people have had equal rights all this time?

Do you get annoyed at feminists too?

What was my point? You said that gays are "forced to resort to gay clubs, magazines, parades, etc." and I disagree. How clear would you like me to be?

I never said gay people have had equal rights all this time. I only commented that gay people think they are like the blacks from the 1960s, which is not at all the same.

And feminists have successfully destroyed the family unit. A family could get by on the wages of a single parent, but nowadays, it's hard to get by with a dual-income family.

///M · June 30th, 2005, 07:13 AM

So a gay couple can walk into a normal club/bar, display affection, and not get harrassed? I'm talking about any-town USA here.

cvrefugee · June 30th, 2005, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M

So a gay couple can walk into a normal club/bar, display affection, and not get harrassed? I'm talking about any-town USA here.

Sure, anybody could be harrassed anywhere for any reason. Passing equal rights legislature for gays won't change people's attitudes or opinions.

CanadianLoonie · June 30th, 2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M

You do know what the term 'Jesusland' refers to right?

This should help you out...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/28/New_map_WEB.jpg

Jostyrostelli · June 30th, 2005, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M

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Originally Posted by Jostyrostelli

^I think gaypeople don't do themselfs a favour by having these gayevents all the time, gayparade, gaymagazines, gayclubs etc etc. Like heterosexual people are not allowed there. Do heterosexual people offend gaypeople by saying they are 'different'?
No they (not all of course) make themselfs 'different' from heterosexual people by having their own events and stuff. I don't have anything against it, but then don't complain that they are treated different by some people.

When society is full of bigots that consider you an outcast, you're only forced to resort to gay clubs, magazines, parades, etc.

Sure, I didn't deny that, it's true, but they are not doing themselfs a favour by having their own events. I'm sure it all works for them, but 'they' will get used to it and isolate themselfs.

CanadianLoonie · June 30th, 2005, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cvg

The worst thing I've ever heard is how some gay people equate their 'struggle' to that of the blacks during the 1960s civil rights era. Skin color is genetic, homosexuality isn't. Nobody chooses their skin color, well, except for Michael Jackson.

Do you really believe people would choose to be homosexual if they know they have to put up with this bullshit?

Think about it logically before you post.

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Originally Posted by cvg

I never said gay people have had equal rights all this time. I only commented that gay people think they are like the blacks from the 1960s, which is not at all the same.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter what issue is being discriminated against.

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Originally Posted by cvg

And feminists have successfully destroyed the family unit. A family could get by on the wages of a single parent, but nowadays, it's hard to get by with a dual-income family.

What did feminists do that made raising a family more financially challenging?

Again, think things over before you post and reveal your idiotic opinions.

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Originally Posted by cvg

Sure, anybody could be harrassed anywhere for any reason. Passing equal rights legislature for gays won't change people's attitudes or opinions.

Pass some hate crime laws...or better yet, they should be charged with terrorism, which is exactly what harrassment really amounts to at the top end: spreading fear.

CanadianLoonie · June 30th, 2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mischief007

About time this has been passed. Now we can concentrate on more important issues. images/smilies/wink.gif

Word.

It's unbelievable that in this century we are still making a such a fuss over such a trivial matter. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

cvrefugee · June 30th, 2005, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadianLoonie

Again, think things over before you post and reveal your idiotic opinions.

Idiotic opinion? If one doesn't agree with a person then they automatically have an idiotic opinion?

tranceshakeel · June 30th, 2005, 09:26 AM

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Again, think things over before you post and reveal your idiotic opinions.

Idiotic opinion? If one doesn't agree with a person then they automatically have an idiotic opinion?

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Word.

cvrefugee · June 30th, 2005, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CanadianLoonie

Do you really believe people would choose to be homosexual if they know they have to put up with this bullshit?

Think about it logically before you post.

Should I think logically or scientifically? First of all, what proof exists that shows people are born gay? To me, homosexuality is a psychological issue. It all boils down to the argument of Nature vs. Nurture.

Besides, why do some people still smoke knowing it's harmful to their health? Some may be addicted, others may be ignorant. And many continue to smoke because it's pleasurable. Being a proud, gay person has its negatives when they constitute the scientific and social minority.

tranceshakeel · June 30th, 2005, 09:41 AM

He is a canadian Loonie images/smilies/w00t.gif

Jostyrostelli · June 30th, 2005, 09:42 AM

I don't think it's a choice to be gay or hetero. It's not like they say one day "hey, let's date men!". It's just how you were born.

tranceshakeel · June 30th, 2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jostyrostelli

I don't think it's a choice to be gay or hetero. It's not like they say one day "hey, let's date men!". It's just how you were born.

Sometimes its how you are brought up, the society around you, can influence greatly, its the human brain that can think up of stuff like this, I mean you dont see any gay animals...... or do you ????

Jostyrostelli · June 30th, 2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jostyrostelli

I don't think it's a choice to be gay or hetero. It's not like they say one day "hey, let's date men!". It's just how you were born.

Sometimes its how you are brought up, the society around you, can influence greatly, its the human brain that can think up of stuff like this, I mean you dont see any gay animals...... or do you ????

How would the society make you gay? Or help you becoming gay?

cvrefugee · June 30th, 2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jostyrostelli

How would the society make you gay? Or help you becoming gay?

http://genealogy.about.com/cs/geneti...re_nurture.htm

Read that.

June 30th, 2005, 03:35 AM	#22
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///M Joined: Feb 28th, 2005 Last Online: September 5th, 2008 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,067 Rep Power: 0	So a gay couple can walk into a normal club/bar, display affection, and not get harrassed? I'm talking about any-town USA here. __________________

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