Debate on Religion and Reason...

Firecat · February 11th, 2007, 11:17 AM

Been watching this for about 1 hour 20 minutes (when I should have been sleeping, because I have to work in a few hours). Very interesting, lots of good points all around....

http://www.booktv.org/feature/index....90&schedID=474

jeffy777 · February 11th, 2007, 5:23 PM

I watched that too. I like how the other two balance Harris out, who is way to extreme in his anti-religious views.

jayjaya29 · February 12th, 2007, 4:12 AM

Sweet, will listen to this tomorrow.

I just watched a wonderful documentary on Evangelicals. Being one who does not believe in god or supernatural forces at all, Evangelicals are just off the deep end in my point of view.

Peter3hg · February 12th, 2007, 7:55 AM

Anyone heard of Richard Dawkins? He is an atheist who has quite severe views of religion. He has made quite a few documentarys which, although extreme, do raise some interesting points.

Ultra_Kool_Dude · February 12th, 2007, 8:20 AM

I honestly hate religion (not religious people). It's forced onto young minds, and uses peoples' desire to be good against them.

BTW: I'm not prejudiced, I was raised religious. Luckily I'm one of the small percentage that can claw their way free.

Dawkins pwns.

Firecat · February 12th, 2007, 8:37 AM

I can understand how people can hate the dogma of religion and the constructs it creates to indocrtinate adherents and shut themselves off from rational thinking. But in that sense is religion any different from other ideologies, like conservatism, liberalism, communism etc.?

BerserkerCatSplat · February 12th, 2007, 8:46 AM

The Liberals don't tell me I'll burn in hell for all eternity if I'm a Conservative. Most of the time, anyway.

Ultra_Kool_Dude · February 12th, 2007, 8:50 AM

For me it's all about methodology to truth; the method used to aquire truth is paramount.

Religious methodology is faith - ie. I just believe it because I choose to.

It's late so I have no tact.

Firecat · February 12th, 2007, 9:40 AM

I hope people do watch this, because it was really interesting. I think i'll buy Reza Aslan's book tomorrow (today?).

jayjaya29 · February 13th, 2007, 3:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firecat

I hope people do watch this, because it was really interesting. I think i'll buy Reza Aslan's book tomorrow (today?).

Its sitting on my desktop. I will definitely be watching it this week.

liberal noob · February 14th, 2007, 2:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra_Kool_Dude

I honestly hate religion (not religious people). It's forced onto young minds, and uses peoples' desire to be good against them.

BTW: I'm not prejudiced, I was raised religious. Luckily I'm one of the small percentage that can claw their way free.

Me too.

liberal noob · February 15th, 2007, 11:39 PM

Poor kids...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8bB2rt3IKJc part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNDBf4PXw0M part 2

jeffy777 · February 16th, 2007, 12:34 AM

^^^ That's already been posted and discussed to death........

liberal noob · February 16th, 2007, 1:29 AM

Link?

jeffy777 · February 16th, 2007, 1:30 AM

Search? Judging by your recent posting activity, I think you could use the practice images/smilies/wink.gif

February 11th, 2007, 11:17 AM	#1
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: November 5th, 2009 Posts: 4,432 Rep Power: 48	Debate on Religion and Reason... Been watching this for about 1 hour 20 minutes (when I should have been sleeping, because I have to work in a few hours). Very interesting, lots of good points all around.... http://www.booktv.org/feature/index....90&schedID=474 __________________

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jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 11:20 PM Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 6,262 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 86	I watched that too. I like how the other two balance Harris out, who is way to extreme in his anti-religious views. __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

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Peter3hg Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 6:36 PM Location: Manchester, UK Age: 20 Posts: 4,509 Car: 2006 Yamaha Fazer LFS Status: Rep Power: 44	Anyone heard of Richard Dawkins? He is an atheist who has quite severe views of religion. He has made quite a few documentarys which, although extreme, do raise some interesting points. __________________

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Ultra_Kool_Dude AWESOME!!!111ONE Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: August 4th, 2009 Location: Clarkson's House Posts: 3,681 Car: POWERR!!! Rep Power: 0	I honestly hate religion (not religious people). It's forced onto young minds, and uses peoples' desire to be good against them. BTW: I'm not prejudiced, I was raised religious. Luckily I'm one of the small percentage that can claw their way free. Dawkins pwns. __________________ What's the difference between charity and socialism? What's the difference between sex and rape?

February 12th, 2007, 8:37 AM	#6
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: November 5th, 2009 Posts: 4,432 Rep Power: 48	I can understand how people can hate the dogma of religion and the constructs it creates to indocrtinate adherents and shut themselves off from rational thinking. But in that sense is religion any different from other ideologies, like conservatism, liberalism, communism etc.? __________________

February 12th, 2007, 8:46 AM	#7
BerserkerCatSplat Hormone Induced Joined: Jun 21st, 2005 Last Online: 10:27 PM Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,840 Car: ZJ 4X4X5 Rep Power: 160	The Liberals don't tell me I'll burn in hell for all eternity if I'm a Conservative. Most of the time, anyway. __________________ OSPhoto

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Ultra_Kool_Dude AWESOME!!!111ONE Joined: Oct 4th, 2004 Last Online: August 4th, 2009 Location: Clarkson's House Posts: 3,681 Car: POWERR!!! Rep Power: 0	For me it's all about methodology to truth; the method used to aquire truth is paramount. Religious methodology is faith - ie. I just believe it because I choose to. It's late so I have no tact. __________________ What's the difference between charity and socialism? What's the difference between sex and rape?

February 12th, 2007, 9:40 AM	#9
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: November 5th, 2009 Posts: 4,432 Rep Power: 48	I hope people do watch this, because it was really interesting. I think i'll buy Reza Aslan's book tomorrow (today?). __________________

February 15th, 2007, 11:39 PM	#12
liberal noob Joined: Feb 14th, 2007 Last Online: August 27th, 2009 Location: Berkley, MA USA Age: 23 Posts: 274 Car: 1999 VW Jetta Rep Power: 12	Poor kids... http://youtube.com/watch?v=8bB2rt3IKJc part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNDBf4PXw0M part 2

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jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 11:20 PM Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 6,262 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 86	^^^ That's already been posted and discussed to death........ __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

February 16th, 2007, 1:29 AM	#14
liberal noob Joined: Feb 14th, 2007 Last Online: August 27th, 2009 Location: Berkley, MA USA Age: 23 Posts: 274 Car: 1999 VW Jetta Rep Power: 12	Link?

February 16th, 2007, 1:30 AM	#15
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 11:20 PM Location: US Age: 28 Posts: 6,262 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 86	Search? Judging by your recent posting activity, I think you could use the practice __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

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