Fatty to stay with Mummy...

[AnGuRuSO]

poor kid...

[BlaRo]

Seriously...I've got no sympathy for this kid. Blame it on genetics or diseases, if you don't have enough self-control to stop yourself from physically shoving crap down your throat then it's nobody's fault but yours.

I hope they make fun of his fat piggy ass mercilessly at school. Hopefully then he'll feel guilty about shoving down those baby-back ribs.

[HSV GTS]

I think that the parents are the ones to blame. a child this young can't make informed desecions about what and what not to eat. Its down to the parents to provide them with healthy food, and to ration fatty foods and sweets.

[Goose+]

Originally Posted by BlaRo

Seriously...I've got no sympathy for this kid. Blame it on genetics or diseases, if you don't have enough self-control to stop yourself from physically shoving crap down your throat then it's nobody's fault but yours.

I hope they make fun of his fat piggy ass mercilessly at school. Hopefully then he'll feel guilty about shoving down those baby-back ribs.

[Micra]

It kinda sounds like the kid has a mild form of Prader-Willi Syndrome, in which case he really can't help himself. If not, his mom should just throw all the bad food outta the house.

[countvlad]

I think this is all over hyped. Fat kids get bullied so someone with no medical experince invents a condtion and says that we should all give them special concessions because of this.
The fat and greedy shit should'nt have eaten all that food in the first place. It is unlikely that he did not steal most of the food which has made him so fat.

[Xenon]

You need to remember that the kid is only 8 years old. If they like something, they will want it whether its tv, food or a toy. Although it is easy to say the kid should stop eating so much he is still very young. It is up to the parents to set limits and the parents are useless. What kind of a parent would let their child eat greasy artery clogging food when they're already severely overweight? I guess this could be called neglect since the parent obviously doesn't care.

[No Boss]

Originally Posted by Xenon

You need to remember that the kid is only 8 years old. If they like something, they will want it whether its tv, food or a toy. Although it is easy to say the kid should stop eating so much he is still very young. It is up to the parents to set limits and the parents are useless. What kind of a parent would let their child eat greasy artery clogging food when they're already severely overweight? I guess this could be called neglect since the parent obviously doesn't care.

Exactly. At 8 years old a child has no idea what their doing in regards to food. I remember when I was 8 and my mom would get back from the store with a box of fudgesicles I'd steal the box, and put it behind the couch (LOL, I know.) and eat them all. By hiding the box, it would just look like I was eating the same one everytime my mom walked by.

God I loved those preteen sugar rushes. Don't even get me started on Fruit Roll-Ups and Surge Cola.

[zojpz]

Damn, all this hate for this stupid little kid, I think you need a reality check.

The kids 8 years old, not really in the age of reason is he? The people who should be taking blame (and control) over his overfeeding are his parents.

I read the words "greedy" or "lack of self-control". 99 times out of 100 you would, in the same upbringing, same parental control, same unlimited source of food, be almost as fat as he is. All the problems he has can be traced to parental "abuse". Saying that somebody is greedy is kinda ironic. Every decision you made since you were born was for your want for something and getting that something was only limited by your sorroundings. It's no different to this kid and no different when you were a kid.

"Give the devil your finger, hell take your hand."

[tigger]

Originally Posted by BlaRo

I hope they make fun of his fat piggy ass mercilessly at school. Hopefully then he'll feel guilty about shoving down those baby-back ribs.

Rofl, they better do it out of his reach, he is a 5ft tall 8 year old after all.

I find this kind of thing disgusting. There's a woman who lives down my street whose son is close to this kids age, he's about normal height and weighs over 100lbs. Every time I see the kid he's got candy, or ice cream or some other crap. Whoever brought up the idea of giving this kid to an Army Ranger for a while is on to something. If anything will get you in shape, it's weeks and weeks of merciless PT. I've got a friend in the Marine Corps who said he ate about 5-7000 calories a day in boot camp, and still lost weight.

[countvlad]

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You need to remember that the kid is only 8 years old. If they like something, they will want it whether its tv, food or a toy. Although it is easy to say the kid should stop eating so much he is still very young. It is up to the parents to set limits and the parents are useless. What kind of a parent would let their child eat greasy artery clogging food when they're already severely overweight? I guess this could be called neglect since the parent obviously doesn't care.

At 8 years old a child must still be clever enough to make a resomble decision about what they want to eat. Unless the parents forced the child to eat all the crap then it can't be the fault just of the incompetant mother. Its far more likely as i have said before that the kid just pinched the food from the cubords. Yes we must blame the parents but thats all to easy, it is the kids fault and he must accept that he is to blame for his weight problem.

I read the words "greedy" or "lack of self-control". 99 times out of 100 you would, in the same upbringing, same parental control, same unlimited source of food, be almost as fat as he is. All the problems he has can be traced to parental "abuse". Saying that somebody is greedy is kinda ironic. Every decision you made since you were born was for your want for something and getting that something was only limited by your sorroundings. It's no different to this kid and no different when you were a kid.

This kind of weight in a person of this age is certainly not common.
Many children do live in places where there is a pretty much unlimited supply off food yet they can control themselves. Why can these children do it when this one can't.

[zojpz]

Originally Posted by countvlad

At 8 years old a child must still be clever enough to make a resomble decision about what they want to eat. Unless the parents forced the child to eat all the crap then it can't be the fault just of the incompetant mother. Its far more likely as i have said before that the kid just pinched the food from the cubords. Yes we must blame the parents but thats all to easy, it is the kids fault and he must accept that he is to blame for his weight problem.

How is blaming the parents easy? I quess blaming the kid is really hard then?

I have never met a 8 year old that could make a decisive choice of doing something other (for example losing weight) without the help of "outside" factor(parents). Sure, a kid might start to play football instead of watching telly all the time, but who will make that kid go to practices unless the parent do?

The kid likes bacon, chicken, steak and sausage. All but the latter are made with frying pans, ovens and so on. My quess is that the mother prepares these things for him. And anyway, if it was a case of cookies and other sweet wouldnt it be the mothers time to stop filling the cabinets? The kid is such a fat-ass that I dont think hes walking to the store to buy his chicken.

This kind of weight in a person of this age is certainly not common.
Many children do live in places where there is a pretty much unlimited supply off food yet they can control themselves. Why can these children do it when this one can't.

We all have very little control in what choices we do when we are kids. The reason why these non-obese kids exist in middle-class homes is because of some degree of control from the parents during the kids childhood. You might not remember the time when your parents frowned upon you when you ate all the candy when you were three or four, but that alone might have made you be afraid of mommys bad look not to do it again. Some kids learn fast, some slow, some dont ever encounter that situation and dont learn.

People live in the illusion of self-control, with the correct manipulator pushing the correct buttons, any man will obey like a dog.

[countvlad]

How is blaming the parents easy? I quess blaming the kid is really hard then?

Because their is little defence for the parents, people feel sorry for that child. Mainly the media who have stricter restrictions on what they can say about children.

The kid likes bacon, chicken, steak and sausage. All but the latter are made with frying pans, ovens and so on. My quess is that the mother prepares these things for him. And anyway, if it was a case of cookies and other sweet wouldnt it be the mothers time to stop filling the cabinets? The kid is such a fat-ass that I dont think hes walking to the store to buy his chicken.

Then there are things like chocolate which is not, often the child will just steal these.

If this child cannot make informed desisions about what to do when the middle class families children can then it is the childs fault. The kids brought up by middle class families are often left on their own as both parents are at work. These children learn to be mature and sensible and even make their own food.
It is up to some degree the fault of the parents for bringing the child up badly, The child came from a single home(i think) so the absence of a father means less of a controlling force for the child. You might expect a child that has been badly brought up to be a little more sloppy but not like this. The kid must have stolen food and that is what is to blame.

[zojpz]

Originally Posted by countvlad

Because their is little defence for the parents, people feel sorry for that child. Mainly the media who have stricter restrictions on what they can say about children.

Then there are things like chocolate which is not, often the child will just steal these.

Actually, you are right. It is very easy to blame the parents. Simply because they are responsible for their offspring blame is on them.

I dont think that the kid stole anything actually, as far as the original article says.

If this child cannot make informed desisions about what to do when the middle class families children can then it is the childs fault. The kids brought up by middle class families are often left on their own as both parents are at work. These children learn to be mature and sensible and even make their own food.

Yes, exactly. These non-obese kids are given the chance to use their own abilities to reason on their own. When the parents of those kids notice that all of the cookies were lost during work-time, theyll just stop the supply of cookies.

The parent in the newsarticle still supply food for her little food-muncher and clearly showing no common sense to stop all this. If it was so that the kid was alone when he ate all the food it would still be the parents responsibility to do something.

It is up to some degree the fault of the parents for bringing the child up badly, The child came from a single home(i think) so the absence of a father means less of a controlling force for the child. You might expect a child that has been badly brought up to be a little more sloppy but not like this.

I have seen this sloppy parenting do their work on kids and it isnt pretty. Even adding a authority(father, mothers can be too ofc) figure to the family doesnt work on all kids. Controlling but somewhat "out of reach" father can make some kids behave well at home, but be insane criminals outside the home environment. It is the matter of pushing the right buttons, but also how you push the buttons.

The kid must have stolen food and that is what is to blame.

Stealing? From the shop? I quess you mean from the cupboards. Still a matter of bad parenting, these sources of food must be stopped for the brat to lose weight. The only person to make a stop to this should be the parent.

When you were a kid, do you remember alot of "wise" choices you made? Howabout bad choices? I believe that the amount of bad memories are tenfold to the other. Most of "your" wise choices were made by your mother/father, just like my parents did.

[countvlad]

Yes, exactly. These non-obese kids are given the chance to use their own abilities to reason on their own. When the parents of those kids notice that all of the cookies were lost during work-time, theyll just stop the supply of cookies.

The parent in the newsarticle still supply food for her little food-muncher and clearly showing no common sense to stop all this. If it was so that the kid was alone when he ate all the food it would still be the parents responsibility to do something.

It would be, but however it is in practicle to just have no food in the house at all. The kid just nicks what is there and something has to be there.

When you were a kid, do you remember alot of "wise" choices you made? Howabout bad choices? I believe that the amount of bad memories are tenfold to the other. Most of "your" wise choices were made by your mother/father, just like my parents did.

Not so much, I never made such bad decisions as these.Some of my decent decisions were made myself but true many were made by my parents. My parents did make some decisions but they more cut corners than radically changed my life.