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View Poll Results: What issues are you concerned about?
The war on terror / homeland security. 1 2.38%
The Iraq war. 4 9.52%
The economy. 14 33.33%
Volatility of the stock market. 0 0%
The housing market. 0 0%
The upcoming presidential election. 1 2.38%
The price of commodities (gasoline, grains, natural gas). 6 14.29%
The "do-nothing-18%-approval-rating" Congress who are wasting our tax dollars. 11 26.19%
Other! Please specify in a post. 5 11.90%
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Old July 20th, 2008, 01:06 AM   #1
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The Iraq War.

Frankly, McCain is the worse of two evils and if he wants to be Bush 2 by pissing off "rogue countries" and staying in Iraq until "God knows when", then I fear for not only the future of this country but the future of the world as well.


Even Obama's dreamily charming rhetoric with little substance behind it is better, because:

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Nothing bothers me, i just hope were out of this recession soon. Otherwise I cant think of any issue I take issue with.
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Where's the "all of the above" choice?
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I voted "Economy"...and I consider the housing crisis to be along those lines. Of course, those issues are all linked in their own way.

I have some businesses in the food industry and some real estate investments...and it's very rough right now.
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I wish there was a party for small government (but acknowledged the need for the FDA, FCC - pre-Carlin Jihad-, Federal military, etc), and respected peoples' rights. All I see is the pro-war police state party (Republican) and the pro-war police state party (Democrat) - and no saying your are against the war and then voting for it is not anti-war.
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The conflicts are lesser concerns in my mind.
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I put homeland security, but I mean that as in: How far the government is going with measures like the patriot act in an attempt to protect us from everything.
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I voted the election. While McCain is a definite improvement over the retarded monkey we currently have in office, I'd much rather have Obama in office. McCain doesn't seem flexible enough in both social and world issues (i.e. willing to change his mind).
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I wish there was a party for small government (but acknowledged the need for the FDA, FCC - pre-Carlin Jihad-, Federal military, etc), and respected peoples' rights. All I see is the pro-war police state party (Republican) and the pro-war police state party (Democrat) - and no saying your are against the war and then voting for it is not anti-war.
I agree with you. Someone that's not as crazy as Ron Paul.
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Honestly, let me be the first to say I want Obama to win SOLELY because he's black. Also, McCain is fat. and if he's not, he is in my mind and I wont stand for it.
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"The 'do-nothing-18%-approval-rating' Congress who are wasting our tax dollars. "

This was the closest thing to my concerns about our government right now. It's not just Congress, though. The entire system needs to be wiped clean. Too much corruption from both sides, a complete loss of focus from both parties of securing the needs of the common citizen, too much politicking... It's no longer about helping the people; it's about helping themselves. It's about making relationships by trading your votes for favors with your fellow representatives. It's about voting for things you know isn't the best for this country simply because you want to ensure your political party doesn't place their nomination with someone else come the next election.

Ditch the 2-party system. It doesn't work.
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"The 'do-nothing-18%-approval-rating' Congress who are wasting our tax dollars. "

This was the closest thing to my concerns about our government right now. It's not just Congress, though. The entire system needs to be wiped clean. Too much corruption from both sides, a complete loss of focus from both parties of securing the needs of the common citizen, too much politicking... It's no longer about helping the people; it's about helping themselves. It's about making relationships by trading your votes for favors with your fellow representatives. It's about voting for things you know isn't the best for this country simply because you want to ensure your political party doesn't place their nomination with someone else come the next election.

Ditch the 2-party system. It doesn't work.
Sir, governmen has been like this since government started. In order to get rid of the 2 party system more people need to vote for a third party. Greens always been the closest. Human nature will probably never allow a government to be truly clean or even close to. Thats why I'm for robot overlords.
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The Iraq War.

Good American soldiers are dying for no good reason, and its not helping the economy or gas prices.
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The Greens are pretty organized, but I think the Libertarians are in a better position. the Reform Party (Perot) had one of the strongest showings in recent elections.
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"The 'do-nothing-18%-approval-rating' Congress who are wasting our tax dollars. "

This was the closest thing to my concerns about our government right now. It's not just Congress, though. The entire system needs to be wiped clean. Too much corruption from both sides, a complete loss of focus from both parties of securing the needs of the common citizen, too much politicking... It's no longer about helping the people; it's about helping themselves. It's about making relationships by trading your votes for favors with your fellow representatives. It's about voting for things you know isn't the best for this country simply because you want to ensure your political party doesn't place their nomination with someone else come the next election.

Ditch the 2-party system. It doesn't work.
Coalition governments aren't much better, they give loads of power to minority political powers. Look at Israel.

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I hope to God/Cthulhu/FSM that the Green party is never a major power. The Libertarians are a bit too extreme for my liking. I do see a new conservative party coming to power however, there is a pretty big and growing group of conservatives that are disenfranchised by the Republican Party. I can see them all just saying fuck it and leaving after the disappointment of the last decades.
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All of it plus more.
I honestly want to go move to an island away from all of this, maybe pack some plants and move to outerspace.
I seriously don't think it's a coincidence that 3/5 people in my age group I know have tried to kill themselves in an intentional manner, not in the normal classic stupidity kind. I watch, read and listen to the news and going ons in the world, I observe the people around me, then I crawl back into bed because I don't see myself ever having a future. We live in a very depressing world and I am fucking jaded. It's like you have to work your ass of to have enough money to exist, then spend all the the time not working trying to recover from it. If someone asks me what I like to do for fun I end up laughing at them because who has the time, energy, or money for that now? My me time consists of playing with gadgets while I'm in bed or enjoying my car on the way to a place I have to go anyway. I'm actually glad that I have no public transport here because I'd loose what is often the most and only enjoyable bit of my day. So many people I talk to are living this way. People shouldn't be living this way it's not healthy.
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