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justin syder · June 27th, 2005, 04:09 AM

Well I admire that you walk the walk and talk the talk. images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

I was about to post saying "then maybe Josty you need to behind some cause if you feel there is too much harm/suffering done to animals" but I see you do.

I have no prob with that. Keep it up! images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

Jostyrostelli · June 27th, 2005, 11:17 AM

general · June 27th, 2005, 01:57 PM

stay humane.eat whatever you want to from dogs to squids to flies to goats but then do have ethics and don't waste.

you don't skin them alive.please at least kill them and then go on to skin them.If it was proper no one would mind just like slaughtering chickens.no one even cares

and for god's sake have a new debate this one is going around in circles

Jostyrostelli · June 27th, 2005, 02:30 PM

^You already said that..

If you don't like it, why are you posting then?

justin syder · June 28th, 2005, 01:54 AM

thats true though, aligators arent eaten and are used for luxurious items like belts and boots and shoes, just as furs are.

if furs werent handled by those monsters and killed then skinned no one would get emotional and concerned but then again im sure no one would get emotional or concerned if those guys were poked, skinned, poked some more, stepped on, smacked...etc etc. images/smilies/mrgreen.gif

Lets go look for them. images/smilies/wink.gif

zenkidori · June 28th, 2005, 06:55 AM

aligators are eaten, very often in fact in the south.

Jostyrostelli · June 28th, 2005, 05:43 PM

^Yeah and live in horrible conditions too (not sure how much percent is bad, I think there are a few 'better' ones too. But it's still not good to keep those animals (endangered) to eat or use their leather.

zenkidori · June 28th, 2005, 07:00 PM

I'm pretty sure alligators in Alligator farms aren't endangered. They don't kill and eat wild ones. And again, I don't see your "horrible" conditions, most Alligator farms are set up like zoos.

Jostyrostelli · June 28th, 2005, 07:19 PM

Doesn't endangered mean protected/almost extinct (correct me if I'm wrong had a hard day)

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Maybe it's me but I don't think you should kill these crocodiles for meat or their skin to make handbags or shoes for the gangstas. Why do people need the skin of a dead animal to feel good about themselfs or show how rich they are by approving killing beautiful animals.

zenkidori · June 28th, 2005, 11:20 PM

Crocodiles and Alligators are two different animals. There couldn't be Alligator farms if they were endangered and protected. this is all perfectly legal and even ethical to most people. It's really no different than cattle ranching, even better perhaps. Many Alligator farms are set up like zoos, gaining extra revenue from tourists coming to see the animals. I highly doubt they'd be successful if the animals were kept in horrid conditions.

ganstas? wtf? I think you watch too much TV.

Jostyrostelli · June 28th, 2005, 11:23 PM

Not at all.

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June 27th, 2005, 04:09 AM	#121
justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: October 29th, 2007 Location: New York, USA Age: 27 Posts: 4,087 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 25	Well I admire that you walk the walk and talk the talk. I was about to post saying "then maybe Josty you need to behind some cause if you feel there is too much harm/suffering done to animals" but I see you do. I have no prob with that. Keep it up! __________________ Top Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=179 5th Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=931 Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

June 27th, 2005, 11:17 AM	#122
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: November 19th, 2008 Posts: 8,063 Rep Power: 27	__________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

June 27th, 2005, 02:30 PM	#124
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: November 19th, 2008 Posts: 8,063 Rep Power: 27	^You already said that.. If you don't like it, why are you posting then? __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

June 28th, 2005, 01:54 AM	#125
justin syder Joined: Dec 8th, 2003 Last Online: October 29th, 2007 Location: New York, USA Age: 27 Posts: 4,087 Car: 1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E Rep Power: 25	thats true though, aligators arent eaten and are used for luxurious items like belts and boots and shoes, just as furs are. if furs werent handled by those monsters and killed then skinned no one would get emotional and concerned but then again im sure no one would get emotional or concerned if those guys were poked, skinned, poked some more, stepped on, smacked...etc etc. Lets go look for them. __________________ Top Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=179 5th Gear list http://forum.finalgear.com/viewtopic.php?t=931 Ich Fahre Deutschen, Ich Fahre Mercedes-Benz.

June 27th, 2005, 01:57 PM	#123
general Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: September 3rd, 2008 Location: Shah Alam,Malaysia Posts: 219 Rep Power: 0	stay humane.eat whatever you want to from dogs to squids to flies to goats but then do have ethics and don't waste. you don't skin them alive.please at least kill them and then go on to skin them.If it was proper no one would mind just like slaughtering chickens.no one even cares and for god's sake have a new debate this one is going around in circles

June 28th, 2005, 06:55 AM	#126
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	aligators are eaten, very often in fact in the south.

June 28th, 2005, 05:43 PM	#127
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: November 19th, 2008 Posts: 8,063 Rep Power: 27	^Yeah and live in horrible conditions too (not sure how much percent is bad, I think there are a few 'better' ones too. But it's still not good to keep those animals (endangered) to eat or use their leather. __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

June 28th, 2005, 07:00 PM	#128
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	I'm pretty sure alligators in Alligator farms aren't endangered. They don't kill and eat wild ones. And again, I don't see your "horrible" conditions, most Alligator farms are set up like zoos.

June 28th, 2005, 07:19 PM	#129
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: November 19th, 2008 Posts: 8,063 Rep Power: 27	Doesn't endangered mean protected/almost extinct (correct me if I'm wrong had a hard day) Tropical Leather.com Maybe it's me but I don't think you should kill these crocodiles for meat or their skin to make handbags or shoes for the gangstas. Why do people need the skin of a dead animal to feel good about themselfs or show how rich they are by approving killing beautiful animals. __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

June 28th, 2005, 11:20 PM	#130
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	Crocodiles and Alligators are two different animals. There couldn't be Alligator farms if they were endangered and protected. this is all perfectly legal and even ethical to most people. It's really no different than cattle ranching, even better perhaps. Many Alligator farms are set up like zoos, gaining extra revenue from tourists coming to see the animals. I highly doubt they'd be successful if the animals were kept in horrid conditions. ganstas? wtf? I think you watch too much TV.

June 28th, 2005, 11:23 PM	#131
Jostyrostelli Joined: May 29th, 2004 Last Online: November 19th, 2008 Posts: 8,063 Rep Power: 27	Not at all. __________________ Your talents are not an achievement. What you do with them is. Owner of a 1970 Beetle 1300. (click for movies) Water is only to do the dishes.

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