Justice in "rape" case

LeVeL · May 3rd, 2008, 10:31 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/03/...rss_topstories

jayhawk · May 3rd, 2008, 10:33 PM

Chalk up another one for Texas's famous kangaroo courts.

KaJuN · May 3rd, 2008, 11:12 PM

Wow...just wow! Talk about getting away with murder! And since the precedent is set can I now get out of a speeding ticket because the guy tailgating me was making me drive faster?

Crazyjeeper · May 4th, 2008, 12:10 AM

Uh, wow. I'm speechless.

bartboy9891 · May 4th, 2008, 12:31 AM

I don't understand, was the wife in the truck while it was being driven away?

Firecat · May 4th, 2008, 02:26 AM

Maybe I misunderstood. But I do think it is the wife's fault. Perhaps the husband (by law) shouldn't have fired his weapon if the person was leaving, but if he was under the impression that the guy tried to rape his wife?

LeVeL · May 4th, 2008, 02:33 AM

Yeah, as far as I can tell the wife did not wish her husband to think that she was cheating on him so she tried to make it look like she was raped. And her husband (understandably, in my opinion) opened fire on the man that was "raping" his wife and killed him.

smib · May 4th, 2008, 05:21 AM

The man was defending his wife. She's a cheating whore. All's good in da 'hood.

airmenair · May 4th, 2008, 05:32 AM

I don't see a problem with him opening fire on the guy.

1.) He was on his property
2.) He was defending his wife (in his mind) from a violent crime. A very high percentage of rapes turn to murder.

So, I felt it was justified for what he believed to be going on. Wife has the most fault in this as was found. Seems like an unfortunate accident, she should serve some time but not the max.

Scooby5 · May 4th, 2008, 11:31 AM

Agree with the consensus........ husband was only doing right.

Of course, this is Texas...... many other places these days you're not allowed to defend yourself or your property (not saying "wife" is property) so crying "rape" in this case is a sure, um, fire way of getting a person killed especially as she should have known there was a gun at home. Well, it is Texas after all.

AlexmanDK · May 4th, 2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by airmenair

I don't see a problem with him opening fire on the guy.

1.) He was on his property
2.) He was defending his wife (in his mind) from a violent crime. A very high percentage of rapes turn to murder.

So, I felt it was justified for what he believed to be going on. Wife has the most fault in this as was found. Seems like an unfortunate accident, she should serve some time but not the max.

So is 1.) alone enough reason to shoot someone or do they have to be doing something?

And since it was while driving away that the "lover" was shot, his wife was out of the car and safe? so no need to shoot to kill IMO

avanti · May 4th, 2008, 12:40 PM

justice was served, I wish the rest of the world could adopt the Texan way of doing things!

LeVeL · May 4th, 2008, 03:32 PM

In Massachusetts, use of deadly force is justified only if there is a direct threat upon your life of the life of a family member. So if you wake up at night and see a burglar running away with all your stuff, you are not allowed to open fire because he is not threatening you. If, on the other hand, he is running at you with a knife, then go right ahead and pop him. Extremely stupid, if you ask me. If some a-hole is on my property and is breaking the law (eg stealing) I should be allowed to open fire.

BerserkerCatSplat · May 4th, 2008, 04:20 PM

I say that's some solid common-sense justice. Cheating whore deserved it.

BlaRo · May 4th, 2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BerserkerCatSplat

I say that's some solid common-sense justice. Cheating whore deserved it.

Indeed.

If she had gotten away with cheating on him, while he got put behind bars for killing a man that he thought was hurting her, then there would have been an even bigger outcry about "justice served".

tigger · May 5th, 2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BerserkerCatSplat

I say that's some solid common-sense justice. Cheating whore deserved it.

My thoughts exactly. She knew her husband had a gun, and should have been smart enough to realize the consequences of her actions.

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Originally Posted by AlexmanDK

And since it was while driving away that the "lover" was shot, his wife was out of the car and safe? so no need to shoot to kill IMO

Yea, the husband should have tried to shoot the lover in the leg or arm ... as he was speeding off in a car images/smilies/lol.gif

. If I thought someone was trying to rape my girlfriend, I wouldn't stop shooting until I ran out of bullets.

airmenair · May 5th, 2008, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexmanDK

So is 1.) alone enough reason to shoot someone or do they have to be doing something?

And since it was while driving away that the "lover" was shot, his wife was out of the car and safe? so no need to shoot to kill IMO

Well no, but being on your property while committing a violent crime against someone is cause enough to shoot. Of course it is moot because you should have just cause to shoot anyone committing a violent crime regardless of whether they're on your property or not. But stop taking it out of context I didn't say he could shoot him because he was just on his property...

LeVeL · May 5th, 2008, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tigger

If I thought someone was trying to rape my girlfriend, I wouldn't stop shooting until I ran out of bullets.

I would do terrible terrible things that would probably land me in jail for a long long time. A friend of mine once spent a night in a polish prison (for graffiti) and the guys he was locked up with told him that in poland if a man goes to jail for rape or child molestation, he does not come out.

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LeVeL Joined: Jun 16th, 2007 Last Online: 03:02 AM Location: MA Age: 20 Posts: 473 Car: VQ30 Rep Power: 7	Yeah, as far as I can tell the wife did not wish her husband to think that she was cheating on him so she tried to make it look like she was raped. And her husband (understandably, in my opinion) opened fire on the man that was "raping" his wife and killed him. __________________ Cardinal of Karting . . . flickr . . . . . . . . . . . GetLeVeLed.org + UMass Motorsport . . .

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smib Joined: Aug 31st, 2007 Last Online: 02:32 AM Location: Bristol, Connecticut Age: 21 Posts: 504 Car: 2008 Scion tC LFS Status: Rep Power: 13	The man was defending his wife. She's a cheating whore. All's good in da 'hood. __________________ PunisherBass: ANYONE with an IQ higher than a jar of mayo wouldn't be able to get through the scientology mumbojumbo without laughing their ass off. Clegg: PunisherBass, quit insulting mayo. "Sorry for the short replies, I can't use my left hand. In fact the whole left side of my body feels like it got hit by a planet. The right side is better, it only got hit by a truck." -Blind_Io

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airmenair Joined: Aug 18th, 2005 Last Online: 03:09 AM Location: Arlington, Texas, USA Posts: 908 Rep Power: 18	I don't see a problem with him opening fire on the guy. 1.) He was on his property 2.) He was defending his wife (in his mind) from a violent crime. A very high percentage of rapes turn to murder. So, I felt it was justified for what he believed to be going on. Wife has the most fault in this as was found. Seems like an unfortunate accident, she should serve some time but not the max.

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Scooby5 Joined: Mar 24th, 2005 Last Online: 07:04 AM Location: A Scot in Singapore Posts: 279 Car: '06 Subaru Legacy 2.0L GT Wagon Rep Power: 16	Agree with the consensus........ husband was only doing right. Of course, this is Texas...... many other places these days you're not allowed to defend yourself or your property (not saying "wife" is property) so crying "rape" in this case is a sure, um, fire way of getting a person killed especially as she should have known there was a gun at home. Well, it is Texas after all. __________________ The species of whale known as the Black Right whale has four kilos of brains and 1,000 kilos of testicles. If it thinks at all, we know what it is thinking about. -- Jon Lien (Professor, St. John's University, Newfoundland)

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LeVeL Joined: Jun 16th, 2007 Last Online: 03:02 AM Location: MA Age: 20 Posts: 473 Car: VQ30 Rep Power: 7	In Massachusetts, use of deadly force is justified only if there is a direct threat upon your life of the life of a family member. So if you wake up at night and see a burglar running away with all your stuff, you are not allowed to open fire because he is not threatening you. If, on the other hand, he is running at you with a knife, then go right ahead and pop him. Extremely stupid, if you ask me. If some a-hole is on my property and is breaking the law (eg stealing) I should be allowed to open fire. __________________ Cardinal of Karting . . . flickr . . . . . . . . . . . GetLeVeLed.org + UMass Motorsport . . .

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BerserkerCatSplat Hormone Induced Joined: Jun 21st, 2005 Last Online: 06:37 AM Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 5,212 Car: Pimpmobile Rep Power: 52	I say that's some solid common-sense justice. Cheating whore deserved it. __________________ OSPhoto