Kosovo. Can it be an example for other separationists?

[vikiradTG2007]

Now that the former Yugoslavian province of Kosovo has declared its independence, will other separationists go that way and demand it?

And do you agree with the declaration of independence of the state? I don't, and certainly Romania is one of the states which will not recognize the new state. Because that might give an example here to Hungarian radical politicians that want autonomy/independence/fusion with hungary of the Harghita-Covasna area.

[IceBone]

/me points at 1991, when we started the whole independence from Yugoslavia thing

[maateuszz89]

I read that at least 15 EU countries and USA are going to accept independence of Kosovo.
It already is an exemple for Ossetia and Abkhazia, they want independence from Russia.

[anti-net]

I'm personally a bit mixed if its a good idea, On one side its what the majority want, but it is better for the rest of the region to have Kosovo independent. It is a worry it'll make every wannabe state be independent, Which could mean we have a lot of mini-states, personally I don't think this would be good

There is actually a movement here in Cornwall (South West England, lovely place if you like cow shit and inbreeding) to make that an independent country, I guess this is just going to motivate them. Personally I think Kosovo could be quite good as an independent state provided there no violence like there has been there.

I really don't know that much about what happened in Kosovo, I was quite young when it all kicked off

[phuckingduck]

Every area in the industrialized western nations has some sort of independence move. There's one for my city, my county, and even my half of the state. They're all nutters, so meh.

Does anyone wanna throw up a link to some information on the Ethnic battles faced by the region? I'm not too familiar with all the ethnic groups and their unique attitudes and positions.

[argatoga]

Originally Posted by phuckingduck

There's one for my city, my county, and even my half of the state.

There is? The only thing close to this I can think of is Bainbridge's desire to join King County.

[teeb]

I'm all for Kosovo's independence. There's been trouble around that area for a while, and I hope that this move wil increase stability in the region (although I fear it might not).

And on a purely selfish note, hopefully it'll persuade my fellow Scots that we too can go it alone. (Although that's an entirely different debate in itself)

[anti-net]

^ I'm kinda hoping Scotland doesn't break away, I think the union should stay together, Once this Labour goverment are gone things will get better for the hole of Britain I hope.

[jayhawk]

It doesn't matter anyway; the European Union will eventually make all the countries into states, instead of individual sovereignty's. I foresee "The United States of Europe."

[phuckingduck]

Originally Posted by argatoga

There is? The only thing close to this I can think of is Bainbridge's desire to join King County.

I'm up in Snohomish county. The city I'm in had a small movement a few years back. Then the county has one that comes up every few years by some of the nuts who live on a lake here. I don't remember the name or details, but it involves rainbows, Boeing, and gun control. And then every few years someone gets in the press about separating the West from the East. Sometimes it's about two separate states, sometimes it's about whole nations.

[teeb]

Originally Posted by anti-net

^ I'm kinda hoping Scotland doesn't break away, I think the union should stay together, Once this Labour goverment are gone things will get better for the hole of Britain I hope.

Yeah, because the Tory party are truly a force for good in this country...

/sarcasm

[argatoga]

Originally Posted by anti-net

^ I'm kinda hoping Scotland doesn't break away, I think the union should stay together, Once this Labour goverment are gone things will get better for the hole of Britain I hope.

Yea I know I am an English nazi; and yes I have no friends.

Originally Posted by phuckingduck

And then every few years someone gets in the press about separating the West from the East.

Yea, I can see Washington separate into Happy Forest Land and Generic Stargate Desert World.

[anti-net]

Originally Posted by teeb

Yeah, because the Tory party are truly a force for good in this country...

/sarcasm

You have a point, whenever I say that I think "Oh wait, um, who's going to replace them?". We've got to the stage where we have a multi-party system full of parties that are shit.

I'm guessing by your location you've decided to up sticks and leave like I hope to do soon, seems like the best idea

Back on topic, I'm question how well this Kosovo independences will work out for the region, there is already violence at the borders, but it does appear to be what the majority want, and that's democracy for you - You've just gotta love it!

[ESPNSTI]

In general, I think if the majority of people want independence, then I don't see a problem with it.

Originally Posted by phuckingduck

There's one for my city, my county, and even my half of the state. They're all nutters, so meh.

[phuckingduck]

Originally Posted by argatoga

Yea, I can see Washington separate into Happy Forest Land and Generic Stargate Desert World.

What part of the state are you from? Coast, Peninsula, I-5 Corridor, or Eastside?
(vancouver doesn't really count )

[argatoga]

Originally Posted by phuckingduck

What part of the state are you from? Coast, Peninsula, I-5 Corridor, or Eastside?
(vancouver doesn't really count )

Well I spent most of the last 14 years in Pouslbo, and am going to school up here in Bellingham.

For those who don't understand the Stargate reference, whenever they need to go to a desert like world they head down to Eastern Washington, which is essentially the opposite of Western Washington climatically and politically.

[jakifirbec]

Originally Posted by ESPNSTI

In general, I think if the majority of people want independence, then I don't see a problem with it.

I agree with that completly, but there is another worry that this independence leads just to annexation to Albania. And becouse the independence was declard probably too soon it might again lead to bloodshed in the region. Serbs wont take that lightly and albanians wont be subtle.

[vikiradTG2007]

Well, now, this has really incited the fanatical Hungarians around here. There was a leaflet stuck to one of the pillars at our high school's entrance, calling all Hungarian students to a march to support the request for autonomy of this area:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kely_Land
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungari...onomous_Region
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A...my_initiatives

It has become a matter of national security.

[phuckingduck]

Serb's just kicked the shit out of Embassy Row, a few were set on fire, not sure which.

[jakifirbec]

American embassy was burning. They thrased slovenian embassy and croatian, as far as i know.
More protests are scheduled in different cities.
Serbian community is having a protest in Ljubljana (Slovenia) on sunday too.