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Old November 9th, 2005, 01:26 AM   #61
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It's the fanatical 0.00000000001% that give a bad image to the rest of the religion.
True, but the other 99.9999999999% really don't condemn the fanatics as much as they should. Makes it harder not to group them all together.
Fair point, but with the recent arrests in Sydney and Melbourne (16 of them) there has been condemnation of the activities those arrested have been accused of planning. Those condemning have been from the Muslim Council of Australia and quite a few religious leaders from the various faiths within the Muslim community. That's been a good step in my eyes.
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It has quite a following in the right of the US.

Doesn't apply in the French case though, since as has been mentioned, they are citizens. France is their home.

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People like you live in a compleatly different world.

If someone mentions some thing like the Holocaust is a fraud you would all scream out that you are a racist and bla bla bla.

Heck people like you have banned me for telling the truth about the Holocaust.
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not that it isn't SEVERELY off topic, but what exactly would the "truth" about the holocaust be then? Was it made up while the US filmed the moon landing in Nevada? images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
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Cute, a real life Holocaust revisionist. Here's a cookie for you.
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People like you live in a compleatly different world.

If someone mentions some thing like the Holocaust is a fraud you would all scream out that you are a racist and bla bla bla.

Heck people like you have banned me for telling the truth about the Holocaust.
Oh man, not only do you hate muslims, you're an anti-semite.

Lovely.

But hey, I'm from the middle east, I've heard it all. Perhaps you should start a new post and tell us about what really happened with the 6 million Jews that disappeared. I might learn something new. Let me guess, you also think that the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is really a Jewish guideline for world domination.
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It's of topic but do some research and you all might see that there was no gas chambers atall.

Also even Israel has said the figure 6 mil is way out of line.
It's close to 100000 jews that died and they died from typhus and other diseases.

Be brave THINK for yourself and dont follow the propaganda feed to you.

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It's of topic but do some research and you all might see that there was no gas chambers atall.
Also even Israel has said the figure 6 mil is way out of line.
It's close to 100000 jews that died and they died from typhus and other diseases.
Be brave THINK for yourself and dont follow the propaganda feed to you.
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So you are a racist when you say the TRUTH about those idiots.


"It's the fanatical 0.00000000001% that give a bad image to the rest of the religion. "


That's BULLSHIT.

It's more like 70% of the people that are Fanatic.
would you mind to back your weird ideas up with some facts?
the fact that you find action hero figures of bin laden (him being the hero!), or shirts with a print of his head, ... propaganda stuff in general
and the fact that never so many newborn kids were given the name osama as the year of the attack on america (heard this on TV yesterday)

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It's so much easier to blame ethnicity or religion, that way you can avoid the real problems and facing reality. If some of you had even the slightest knowledge of history, you'd see that it's not just muslims that have ever rioted or had problems assimilating to a new country.
no, we (as supposed to be christians) did the same thing. that's what's frightening. if we let them do, a second inquisition will start, but then against people who aren't islamic



and i also wanne see the facts that scud has access to, caus i also has a worse view from the hollocaust
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Okay, so why don't we all admit it:
Mankind is fucked, it's in our very genes to be self-destructive and aggressive, so it's just nature looking for a way out!
It doesn't matter if you're jewish, colored, arab, whatever, we all have the same basic genetic, suicidal makeup. It might take a few hundred years yet, but we are completely fugazi! (we just don't like to think about it too much!)
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(heard this on TV yesterday)
wow, if TV said it, it must be true, OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG WHAT DO WE DO?!?!?!?!?!?!111!!!one!?!?! images/smilies/rolleyes.gif
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So you are a racist when you say the TRUTH about those idiots.


"It's the fanatical 0.00000000001% that give a bad image to the rest of the religion. "


That's BULLSHIT.

It's more like 70% of the people that are Fanatic.
would you mind to back your weird ideas up with some facts?
the fact that you find action hero figures of bin laden (him being the hero!), or shirts with a print of his head, ... propaganda stuff in general
and the fact that never so many newborn kids were given the name osama as the year of the attack on america (heard this on TV yesterday)

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It's so much easier to blame ethnicity or religion, that way you can avoid the real problems and facing reality. If some of you had even the slightest knowledge of history, you'd see that it's not just muslims that have ever rioted or had problems assimilating to a new country.
no, we (as supposed to be christians) did the same thing. that's what's frightening. if we let them do, a second inquisition will start, but then against people who aren't islamic



and i also wanne see the facts that scud has access to, caus i also has a worse view from the hollocaust
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So you hate all muslims because you saw something on TV about t-shirts and action figures?

Aren't you the intelligent one.
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Why not ? I imagine the story went like this:

Newsroom: Hey guys, newborns named Osama are up by 1,5 %.
Editorial Staff: Whoa, all time high. Let's make it our headline.
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It's of topic but do some research and you all might see that there was no gas chambers atall.

Also even Israel has said the figure 6 mil is way out of line.
It's close to 100000 jews that died and they died from typhus and other diseases.

Be brave THINK for yourself and dont follow the propaganda feed to you.

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So you are a racist when you say the TRUTH about those idiots.


"It's the fanatical 0.00000000001% that give a bad image to the rest of the religion. "


That's BULLSHIT.

It's more like 70% of the people that are Fanatic.
would you mind to back your weird ideas up with some facts?
the fact that you find action hero figures of bin laden (him being the hero!), or shirts with a print of his head, ... propaganda stuff in general
and the fact that never so many newborn kids were given the name osama as the year of the attack on america (heard this on TV yesterday)

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It's so much easier to blame ethnicity or religion, that way you can avoid the real problems and facing reality. If some of you had even the slightest knowledge of history, you'd see that it's not just muslims that have ever rioted or had problems assimilating to a new country.
no, we (as supposed to be christians) did the same thing. that's what's frightening. if we let them do, a second inquisition will start, but then against people who aren't islamic



and i also wanne see the facts that scud has access to, caus i also has a worse view from the hollocaust
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So you hate all muslims because you saw something on TV about t-shirts and action figures?

Aren't you the intelligent one.
nice reply images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

can't win an argument and start attacking. (that's what they all tend to do images/smilies/wink.gif images/smilies/lol.gif)

and what info do you NOT get from tv? i guess internet is way more reliable images/smilies/rolleyes.gif




and yesterday sarkozi said that every rioter without the french nationality will be banned from the country, even those who have a legitimate greencard (or whatever it's called). i guess it'll be a quiet country afterwards images/smilies/lol.gif
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Oh no, allow me to retort.

First of all, I'm sure there are many bad, bad people that have the same name as you. There are many bad, bad people that are named Adolph, Timothy, George, Yasser, Ariel, I can go on and on. That doesn't mean the parents named them for that specific reason. Grow up a bit. "L1k3 0mGzzzz, s0m3 m000sl3ms ar3 call3d 0sama!!1!1!!". It's quite a popular name in the middle east.

Second of all, prove that most of the muslims in the world have an Usama Bin Ladin T-shirt and/or action figure. Or are you basing your opinions on what you saw some idiot wearing on TV?

I just saw a report on the growing number of Neo-Nazis. Does that mean YOU are a Neo-Nazi because some ignorant white, christians were on TV? Grow up man, you seem to be stuck in this little, sheltered, white, christian village. Xenophobe, anyone?

You're the one that is afraid to acknowledge that there are other people out there in the world that are different than you. So what if someone chooses to pray five times a day? It's not like ALL five prayers occur during work, it's more like two, that can be done during one's break. So what if someone is fasting? Christians fast, Coptic christians fast longer than Muslims. Would you like to not hire them too? What about Buddhists that fast? Hindus? Let's keep them all out of the workplace because they can't concentrate. So what if some Muslim women choose to wear a veil? Does that mean you're not going to allow a Sikh from working? How about a Jew wearing a yarmulke?

Child, I suggest you leave your little shell and go out and discover the world. Not everyone is like you. I hate the militant Muslims more than you. At the end of the day, the only people they are killing at the moment is other Muslims (Iraq, Egypt, now Jordan). You're just angry because a group of people that happens to be Muslim is angry for the lack of equality. Hey, racist bigots like you supported segregation when blacks asked for more rights. I'm really not surprised.
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about the names:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/390248.stm
http://english.pravda.ru/world/2002/01/08/25036.html

about his popularity (if that isn't already proven by the naming)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/1636416.stm
http://www.israelinsider.com/views/a...views_0174.htm

and the fact that the number of neo nazis is growing, is just a reaction on all the above!
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Then why do they still go after blacks and jews?
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i have no idea

i'm not a part of them
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Off topic but....

Hey ////M, can you change your avatar (the 'dancing crackhead thing')? It's very disturbing. It makes it hard to concentrate on any argument you might have.

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