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1) Still support the death penalty? 2) What would YOU do at this point if you were that man? Sue the state+fed government for all they're worth? Can you really put a price tag on twenty years of your life lost? Not to mention the rest of your life is probably ruined too. Even if you are acquitted, everyone will probably refer to you as that rapist who was freed. |
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I still will not support the death penalty. My religious beliefs are mostly why, and also that I feel that no human has the right to take away another's life.
What would I do if I were him? Move on with my life, and know that I will be judged fairly when I pass away. |
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I find it funny that many who are Pro-life also support the death penalty...
The problem I have with the use of the death penalty is there are many cases of prosecutors getting a bug up their ass and wanting to get the first suspect convicted just so their record looks a little better, or to get the case closed. Also a LOT of cases recently have been overturned and prisoners granted freedom because the companies contracted to do the DNA testing weren't doing their job right, everything from falsifying reports to mixing up samples...when my life is on the line, I don't want to worry that I may get convicted because some guy was in a rush to get home to his family and mixed up my blood test with someone else. As I've said before, I support the "3 or more credible witnesses" idea that Texas had/has but death penalty based purely on evidence or the word of 1 person against the suspect should automatically diminish the sentence. Why more so?
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Hmmm I was also thinking what 20 years of your life is worth not just wasted but in prison. I think if anyones able to sue for a lot of money it's this man.
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And usual argument agains death penalty is not about not killing criminals, it's about not killing innocent people because we can not be 100% sure if someone is guilty in many cases. Think about "innocent _unborn_ children" these men would have if you hadn't kill them! |
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Then what about death penalty for those we are 100% positive they did it?
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Yeah, but they might grow up to be criminals, so really, it's nipping it in the bud.
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So, what about someone wanting to die, but not being able to kill themselves? If I HELP someone commit suicide, I will be arrested for murder, or something comparable, if I am not mistaken.
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Complicity to commiting suicide is punishable in Norway. (strl § 236) You won't be punished for murder (overlagt drap tidl. mord), though but only for complicity to killing. Quote:
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Well, I wouldn't put the death penalty on one of those cases.
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You'd just move on with your life because your pretty much just waiting to die to meet something that does not exist? Wow.. I know it's difficult to think about but heres the kicker! When you die, nothing happens. (Your dead)
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Why is it legal to kill someone against their will, when killing someone because they WANT you to do so, is illegal? ...
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People believe in religions, God, and heaven. I know it's difficult to not errupt into an atheistic rant about 'the invisible man' everytime someone mentions the "g" word, bu here's the kicker! Some people on this board believe in religion. Respect that, and lets not turn a political issue into an endless religious debate. Besides, do you know 100% that when you die, someone isn't going to be there to poke you with a pointy stick? Let's leave it be, okay? Back on topic, in regaurds to the over zealous prosecutors and judges; this is why we need to work on weeding that sort of behaviour out. I think if prosecutors were more worried about upholding the law than keeping their jobs, they'd be more effective. Also, longer appeals times would help, but that's another whole mess together...
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Yes, it's called Science and rational thought.
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Suicide is not now an offence in the UK - aiding and abetting a suicide is. "in England it took even longer: ignominious burial wasn't abolished until 1823 nor property forfeiture till 1870, and the deed itself remained a crime (albeit only a misdemeanor, and a rarely prosecuted one at that) until 1961."
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Can you still receive a prison sentence if you try to commit suicide by jumping from a federal building in the US? Think I picked it up once, might be wrong.
And if that is the case, there is no need to incline that I am an idiot, and that my IQ could be measured on one hand, just correct me, I am actually asking. Thank you very much.
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