Marijuana: Legal or Illegal?

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by bone

15$/gram???????

3 times what i pay, that's not affordable

Well, I suppose thats for the good stuff, but I know you can get it down to 11. Actually, just ask haz. He'll know.

[Vette Boss]

I voted to keep it illegal. I can only see how it would cause more harm to make it legal for everyone, instead of going to a dealer just go into the drugstore for a joint. Yeah, that's going to stop the addicts dead in their tracks. I agree on making it legal as a medicine, under very strict rules, and only if other medicine didn't work.

[MPower]

Originally Posted by Vette Boss

I voted to keep it illegal. I can only see how it would cause more harm to make it legal for everyone, instead of going to a dealer just go into the drugstore for a joint. Yeah, that's going to stop the addicts dead in their tracks. I agree on making it legal as a medicine, under very strict rules, and only if other medicine didn't work.

See thats just not reading all of the posts. Of course legalizing it doesnt mean selling it publically in quick shops and stuff. Part of the reason why you legalize it is so that you can regulate it (i.e. keep it out of drug stores and 7Elevens).

[Dr. Woo]

Originally Posted by Vette Boss

I voted to keep it illegal. I can only see how it would cause more harm to make it legal for everyone, instead of going to a dealer just go into the drugstore for a joint. Yeah, that's going to stop the addicts dead in their tracks. I agree on making it legal as a medicine, under very strict rules, and only if other medicine didn't work.

Sounds like personal belief and not a lot of fact.

Much like our (American) government.

[hanasand]

I really don't mind people smoking it or not, so if it would be legal so be it.

But driving while high can't be good so that should go under the same laws
as alcohol..

[bone]

i agree it also should be forbidden, caus bad things would happen

but while high, and you're not doing stupid stuff, you are a very safe person on the road, you drive a lot safer as you would sober, and it's not like with alcohol you can't react anymore (or react to much)

[Vette Boss]

Looking back at all the posts, I see the point of legalising the drug. It means they would be able to regulate it better, so addicts can't have it and helps keep people from being addicted to it.

In that case, I am all for making it legal.

I am trying to be more liberal now, learning from the errors my country's government makes.

[bone]

so you must be learning a lot


no offense

[MPower]

Originally Posted by Vette Boss

Looking back at all the posts, I see the point of legalising the drug. It means they would be able to regulate it better, so addicts can't have it and helps keep people from being addicted to it.

In that case, I am all for making it legal.

I am trying to be more liberal now, learning from the errors my country's government makes.

Dont know what that last sentence is supposed to mean, but legalizing marijuana has been the focus of many of the strongest Republicans.

[justin syder]

This is still a toss up for me and NO I havent read all the posts.

I stayed clear of here especially since Id be the lone target being a none smoker and that we have ppl from Amsterdam and other tokers here.

I just feel that it is like alchohol, it slows down reaction time and alters mood. Do we really need another substance like this to be legal?

Secondly, I would only legalize it for medical use and that is even a stretch as the THC can be extracted and taken in pill form.

[bone]

Originally Posted by MPower

Dont know what that last sentence is supposed to mean, but legalizing marijuana has been the focus of many of the strongest Republicans.

fuck you! if there is one prick against drugs, it's george W Bush. ever hear of the "straight"-clinics? a bunch of clinics addicts are send to to disaddict (:s) with a high sence of a clockwork orange, everybody who gets out alive sues them, and there have been several suicides after a stay in one of these rehabilitation things,
they were almost closed, bush comes along, reopens them, and funds like hell

http://www.thestraights.com/index.htm

watch their company-quote:

rehabilitation, thought reform and the destruction of young minds

check this to
http://thestraights.com/professional-comments.htm
http://www.thestraights.com/legal/ma...l-criminal.htm

[Dr. Woo]

I've never heard of the "strongest republicans" being for legalization. I'd say if any of the republican party is for legalization, it's the moderates.

But once again, I believe in legalization of all illegal drugs, so my opinion isn't exactly popular.

[justin syder]

I believe in legalization of all illegal drugs

Wonderful!!

Let ur mom or dad get sad one day and decide to have some cocaine and die the first time they use it.

Thats exactly what society needs, all illegal drugs legal!

Addicts, what are those?

[Dr. Woo]

Originally Posted by justin syder

Wonderful!!

Let ur mom or dad get sad one day and decide to have some cocaine and die the first time they use it.

Thats exactly what society needs, all illegal drugs legal!

Addicts, what are those?

My parents are responsible, intelligent individuals who would never use cocaine (let alone any now-prohibited drug), so your heartfelt accusation holds no ground. The addicts who spend the enormous amounts of money on drugs now would be able to spend less on a product that is regulated and tested. Do you know what's capable in the laboratories of the world these days? Perhaps we could see heroin with the same ability to get you high with as much risk to your body as a couple of shots of tequila.

Legalize drugs: eliminate the majority of crime in America, hence freeing up our prisons for actual criminals. This is the reason behind legalizing all drugs. Not to make them widely available. In fact...we would have less of a problem with dangerous addicts. The black market for drugs would disappear since there would be no reason for them to exist anymore. When was the last time you heard about a drive-by shooting caused by illegal alcohol?

And finally, imagine what would happen to the economy. Look at Big Tobacco and the beer companies. We would see another huge market open up with many more jobs and even more prosperity.

Stop looking at this with your own personal bias against dangerous addicts and destitute, impoverished homeless people who spend all their money on crack and open your mind.

[bone]

yeah, well, i dunno if it should be smart legalising all drugs, where does it stop?

weed, XTC and cocain may be exagerated in society, but there are plenty who are just dangerous: ketamine, DMT, mescaline, mushrooms,...

but the economie would benefit HUGHLY from the legalisation of marijuana, and not because of the fact it's a drug, but for all the other things you can do with it.
-make clotes
-make paper (a tree takes years to grow, marijuana a couple of months)
-make fuel for ur car
-medicins
-...
i only want weed legalised, i 'm not interested in chemical shit

[///M]

Just wondering, has anyone here driven after toking? I tend to be much safer and conscious of everything around me when I blaze. Then again, I wouldn't need to mention that because it is a proven fact that long-time smokers are as safe, if not safer, behind the wheel than a a sober person of similar driving skill. The problem is with new smokers who get blown away by the high .

For real though, I smoke almost daily to unwind, and I can't help but laugh at some of the points brought up by the prohibitionists. The same arguements used today are from the days of Reefer Madness. Seriously, the government could care less if I toke up, the only reason herb is illegal is because large corporations in the early 20th century (DuPont off the top of my head) felt threatened by the growing hemp industry. Incause you didn't know, you can make a shit load of stuff out of hemp.

It's also sad that Canada is listening to Jesus-land down south. That's the only thing stopping us from being like the Netherlands. Ahh, the good old days. Any tokers remember the summer of '03? It was virtually legal to go out and blaze in Ontario. Pigs said they couldn't arrest anyone. Ontario was the only place in the world were herb was 100% legal (it's not even fully legal in the Netherlands). I remember regularly going to Tim Horton's, grabbing an Ice Cap, and toking outside the store. Great times.

From a smoker's view, if it was legal, the underground factor would be completely gone, just like it did when the prohibition of alcohol ended. I would no longer need to deal with shady people to grab some buds. It'd be much better if I can pop into a regulated grow-op, ran by a pothead who knows how to grow (government pot is disgusting) and buy herb, at a cheaper price.

On a side note, regarding other drugs, I think 'illegal' substances should be a health concern rather than something that concerns law enforcement.

Sorry for the ramblings, as you can see I'm really passionate about this issue. In the words of the great Peter Tosh, legalize it, don't criticize it.

[Dr. Woo]

Originally Posted by ///M

Just wondering, has anyone here driven after toking? I tend to be much safer and conscious of everything around me when I blaze.

A drunk person will blow right through a stop sign. A toked person will stop at the stop sign and wait for it to turn green.

[///M]

I always notice that when I blaze and drive, I notice people walking to a crosswalk before I even have to stop, and wait for them to cross. They really seem to appreciate that.

On the real though, if you're going to drive high, you should be a 'veteran'. It would suck tripping out behind the wheel.

[swek]

My Uncle usually drives after he has smoked. I've never noticed any uncertainty in his driving. He certainly drives better than a lot of people I know.

[haz]

me too

haz