Michael Moore owns Halliburton!

justin syder · November 19th, 2005, 03:54 AM

Interesting find...

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=47174

Viper007Bond · November 19th, 2005, 04:10 AM

Wow, someone managed to dig up 10 pages on liberals. Too bad a library could be filled for republicans. images/smilies/wink.gif

jayjaya29 · November 19th, 2005, 04:12 AM

Interesting find indeed, but its for monetary purposes IMO.

Although on the other hand, its quite odd.

BlaRo · November 19th, 2005, 04:31 AM

Wow, that's like Dick Cheney soliciting donations for moveon.org.

Come to think of it, that's exactly alike.

justin syder · November 19th, 2005, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Wow, someone managed to dig up 10 pages on liberals. Too bad a library could be filled for republicans. images/smilies/wink.gif

Disturbed by the hypocrisy?

It's the same with those idiot celebs protesting this and that or making a political statement. Next thing you know they retreat to their mansion and demand millions to star in a movie.

How about George Clooney and his plans to be part investor of a mega Casino/residential place in Las Vegas.

http://www.lasramblasvegas.com/news/...the-glitz.html

It is a big investment but is he giving the proceeds to this money maker for a good cause? No. A man in his position can do alot of good with that investment but I'm sure it is only going in his pockets.

I think Brad Pitt is also an investor in that Casino/complex too. I hope he will be using some of that money to fight poverty.

Viper007Bond · November 19th, 2005, 04:51 AM

Yeah, it is quite funny how big of hypocrats these people can be. images/smilies/no.gif

zenkidori · November 19th, 2005, 04:56 AM

Liberals and Conservatives both suck. This isn't new. There is nothing wrong with investing your money and staying rich. Many rich people donate quite a bit of money to various charities, but they stay rich, this isn't really new or anything.

Tomo Motorsport · November 19th, 2005, 05:05 AM

Hypocracy is something I can't stand. Especially if its someone who is in a position of great regard. Too bad that many liberals are gonna ignore the fact that mr. moore invests in Halliburton and still flock to his speeches and lay out big bucks for a load of political non-sense. I guess one of the hardest things to do for anyone is to practice what one teaches. I have great respect for anyone who follows one's own teachings/advice, liberal or conservative.

Ultra_Kool_Dude · November 19th, 2005, 05:05 AM

I always shake my head when some millionaire entertainer tries to get me (no money) to donate for something.

Kip_6666 · November 19th, 2005, 06:43 AM

Its hard to loose track of where your money is being used for when you place it in a savings account, or a stock bundle. Most of the time it's, give us your money, and we'll provide you with such and such interest. These companies keep the information between the customer simple cause thats what most people want.

Its not exactly clear what happened in this case though. And the site selling the book they got the source from isn't exactly to be trusted either.

zenkidori · November 19th, 2005, 07:45 AM

Indeed, when you invest like that you really have no control over where your money goes, as the bank invests it for you.

CanadianLoonie · November 19th, 2005, 07:55 AM

Well, if he buys enough Haliburton stock, he could conduct a hostile takeover...

justin syder · November 19th, 2005, 08:08 PM

I highly doubt any investor buys stock without knowledge of where his money goes into, what companies his is buying stock of. Would you?

jayjaya29 · November 19th, 2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra_Kool_Dude

I always shake my head when some millionaire entertainer tries to get me (no money) to donate for something.

What a good point, I never thought of it this way.

zenkidori · November 19th, 2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by justin syder

I highly doubt any investor buys stock without knowledge of where his money goes into, what companies his is buying stock of. Would you?

Yes, and I have. It's called a fund. When you put your money into many kinds of funds(or even a savings account), it goes together with everyone's money who is in that same fund, and the bank invests it how they see fit, thier only responsability is to generate the return promised. This is how most people invest, they don't have direct control over what stocks they invest in, and they don't need to be very active with the banker. You can usually request a list of what you are investing in, but most people don't know how it all works let alone care.

justin syder · November 20th, 2005, 12:01 AM

Well then he's a big idiot to just blindly give away his money and not unintentionally funding something he is against.

You won't ever catch me giving money directly or indirectly to moveon.org and even if I think my money is going there I would be smart enough to research where my money goes to make sure it doesn't go there.

On top of that his signature is not a sign that he doesn't know where his money is going,

Quote:

If you want to see Moore's own signed Schedule D declaring his capital gains and losses where his stock ownership is listed,

Maybe he didn't know but a person in the public eye, a person in the media has to do things differently than average joes. Also is comes off and being a big hypocrite.

Lastly, I HIGHLY DOUBT he will sell those shares of Haliburton or Being etc. Anyone that would point out this hypocrisy will get him to answer something like, "It's just a bunch of lies". Very typical of him and the content of his movies.

zenkidori · November 20th, 2005, 12:40 AM

I don't care about Michale Moore, I am just illustrating that many people invest in many stocks that they don't know about. If you have a savings account you are one of them.

Also, buying stocks is not tantamount to endorsement, you're just making money off other people. You can have socialist ideals but to survive in a mixed economy you must practice some capitalism.

Porsche-Superiority · November 20th, 2005, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Wow, someone managed to dig up 10 pages on liberals. Too bad a library could be filled for republicans. images/smilies/wink.gif

true true

x10

Scott · November 20th, 2005, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Wow, someone managed to dig up 10 pages on liberals. Too bad a library could be filled for republicans. images/smilies/wink.gif

I am sure that this kind of thing goes both ways, but my money says that liberals much more likely to flip on their "core values" because they just do not work in the real world!

By the way, I am kind of a fence rider in the liberal/ conservative thing... I probably lean a little more to the conservative side, but I agree with things from both sides of the aisle.

Firecat · November 20th, 2005, 05:54 PM

The website states that he owns shares in Eli Lilly, which is funny because his new movie is about the pharmaceutical industry I believe.

So either he is trying to profit off the stock (somehow) when his movie is released (like shorting a stock if you know something bad will happen). Or he has them for another reason, if you recall in "bowling for columbine" he mentioned several times that he was a member of the NRA and kinda used that to talk with Charlton Heston....

The same could be said for his Halliburton stock.

Personally, I think investing in defense companies is tantamount to war profiteering. images/smilies/thumbdown.gif

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Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 03:37 PM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,993 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 234	Yeah, it is quite funny how big of hypocrats these people can be. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Tomo Motorsport Joined: Mar 28th, 2005 Last Online: January 3rd, 2007 Location: Tacoma, WA, USA Posts: 297 Rep Power: 0	Hypocracy is something I can't stand. Especially if its someone who is in a position of great regard. Too bad that many liberals are gonna ignore the fact that mr. moore invests in Halliburton and still flock to his speeches and lay out big bucks for a load of political non-sense. I guess one of the hardest things to do for anyone is to practice what one teaches. I have great respect for anyone who follows one's own teachings/advice, liberal or conservative. __________________ "The best way to get a law repealed is to enforce it strictly." - Abe Lincoln Ignition Online Magazine

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zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	I don't care about Michale Moore, I am just illustrating that many people invest in many stocks that they don't know about. If you have a savings account you are one of them. Also, buying stocks is not tantamount to endorsement, you're just making money off other people. You can have socialist ideals but to survive in a mixed economy you must practice some capitalism.

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Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: 04:51 PM Posts: 3,614 Rep Power: 28	The website states that he owns shares in Eli Lilly, which is funny because his new movie is about the pharmaceutical industry I believe. So either he is trying to profit off the stock (somehow) when his movie is released (like shorting a stock if you know something bad will happen). Or he has them for another reason, if you recall in "bowling for columbine" he mentioned several times that he was a member of the NRA and kinda used that to talk with Charlton Heston.... The same could be said for his Halliburton stock. Personally, I think investing in defense companies is tantamount to war profiteering. __________________

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