Omaha to segregate schools...

[Firecat]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...nav=rss_nation

[BlaRo]

Didn't the 60's end 40 years ago?

And where do the 3 percent of Asians/American Indians go?

[Jacobfox]

Goddammit! NOT AGAIN!
This is absolutely ridiculous. The seperate, yet equal clause laid down by Plessy v. Ferguson was proven unconstitutional 52 years ago. What's next, poll taxes? Literacy tests? Jim Crow Laws? This is a REALLY bad move.

[jayhawk]

Anybody who calls this segregation obviously has no idea what "segregation" means.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/segregation

quote:
2 a : the separation or isolation of a race, class, or ethnic group by enforced or voluntary residence in a restricted area, by barriers to social intercourse, by separate educational facilities, or by other discriminatory means b : the separation for special treatment or observation of individuals or items from a larger group <segregation of gifted children into accelerated classes>

They're not moving any kids here. They're not saying "we don't want any black kids in our white schools", or the other way around. They're only re-shaping the administrative boundaries the schools are in so that the most represented group in each district is better represented at the administrative level.

It's just like schools for the hearing-impared or for handicapped kids. It's not segregation, it's trying to give them the best without constantly dealing with exceptions.

[Firecat]

Originally Posted by jayhawk

They're not moving any kids here. They're not saying "we don't want any black kids in our white schools", or the other way around. They're only re-shaping the administrative boundaries the schools are in so that the most represented group in each district is better represented at the administrative level.

You're talking like a politician now. They aren't dancing around the issue. It has been made abundantly clear that the proponents of this bill want the schools divided along racial lines. Sen. Chambers wants blacks (in his district) to have more control over their schools, which he thinks would give them a better education.

[Yayox]

usually people learn from their mistakes USUALLY, but people in the USA is special.... they like f%^k up over and over again. SEGREATION!!! again... it will be fun to see other protests again... I think the USA is becoming more and more segregated over time.... they are beginning with latins you just have to see the protests.. now they are working on their plan for black people, and even worst is the black people who is doing it...... it will be fun to see the country destroy itself. It is funny that people always worry about foreing terrorism... when the politicians are the one sabotaging the country.

It seem that the 60s where in usefull, I bet other states will follow this stupid policies. I hope I never have to live in the USA, for me is just a good shopping MALL!!! jajjajaja

[zenkidori]

hmm, I see the buzzwords there, but I don't feel it's segregation. That would be like giving GWHS and those in the neighborhood control of thier own schools, which I don't see as a bad thing. The fact is that various cultures congregate in thier own neighborhoods, and when rich people are in control of all those school districts, they don't usually do a very good job. The inner city schools usually recieve less funding when they need more, this new measure would basically give them more control over thier own territory, and how is that bad again?

Would some of you prefer we go back to bussing?
giving the people who live there control over thier own schools isn't going to change the fact that the schools in those neighborhoods, and those neighborhoods themselves, are predominantly of one race. They aren't stating that whites and blacks should be separated, I'm sure there are a few whites in the black neighborhoods and vice versa, but the fact of the matter is that those neighborhoods are black neighborhoods and they dont' have the kind of control they want over thier own schools, and they want it, which is understandable.

[Firecat]

How exactly are they getting more control over their schools? I don't see how you can have more control over a school in your area if it's predominately one race as opposed to it being more mixed.

[jayjaya29]

Well there goes explaining racial diversity in Social studies class.

Instead of segregating, why don't you try harder to give all the students equal opportunities.

[zenkidori]

Originally Posted by Firecat

How exactly are they getting more control over their schools? I don't see how you can have more control over a school in your area if it's predominately one race as opposed to it being more mixed.

do you not understand what's going on at all? Those schools are ALREADY predominantly black. They are just giving them more control over thier own district, which is ALREADY predominantly black. They aren't segregating shit.

[zenkidori]

Originally Posted by jayjaya29

Instead of segregating, why don't you try harder to give all the students equal opportunities.

Uhh, this is what they are trying to do, by giving those schools a voice of thier own and control over thier own district.

[jayhawk]

Originally Posted by zenkidori

do you not understand what's going on at all? Those schools are ALREADY predominantly black. They are just giving them more control over thier own district, which is ALREADY predominantly black. They aren't segregating shit.

THANK YOU! That is the point I am trying to convey.

[BlaRo]

Originally Posted by zenkidori

do you not understand what's going on at all? Those schools are ALREADY predominantly black. They are just giving them more control over thier own district, which is ALREADY predominantly black. They aren't segregating shit.

Just read the article again, and that makes more sense. Having black people in charge of predominately black schools isn't segregation.

...right?

[Firecat]

Originally Posted by zenkidori

do you not understand what's going on at all? Those schools are ALREADY predominantly black. They are just giving them more control over thier own district, which is ALREADY predominantly black. They aren't segregating shit.

Perhaps I don't know what's going on. Giving districts more control is a good thing, a better solution would be just to fix the public system for that area. Maybe this will force that change. If taken on face value the law, while not creating segregation, certainly reinforces it. The end goal should be integrated schools (racially and economically) giving students the best education possible. Will this law achieve that? Part of it....maybe

[zenkidori]

I think it's a step in the right direction. Why should people who probably don't even drive thru those neighborhoods let alone live in them have control over thier school district? That doesn't make sense to me. But whenever something comes up that MAY have the SLIGHTEST bit to do with race people always look for a bad guy and now there are retards running around telling the media it's segregation. I would want control of the schools in my neighborhood, I'm sure most others feel the same way. Why does that change when the area is predominantly black? Do these people who call this segregation and rail against it not think that blacks can take care of thier own district? Do they not want them to have control over thier own neighborhood? Do they not have faith in the black community? You've gotta wonder about these types of people.

[YF19pilot]

Originally Posted by Firecat

Perhaps I don't know what's going on. Giving districts more control is a good thing, a better solution would be just to fix the public system for that area. Maybe this will force that change. If taken on face value the law, while not creating segregation, certainly reinforces it. The end goal should be integrated schools (racially and economically) giving students the best education possible. Will this law achieve that? Part of it....maybe

I think this is better for the area rather than bussing people around. The money wasted on gas could be better spent on better schools, and I feel that kids should go to school in their own neighborhoods rather than across town. This way they are better friends with kids in their schools, and don't have to drive across town to meet with their partners to do a group project.

Another supportive look: finances. Let's say there's 9 schools in Omaha. Omaha gets 1 mil per school per year. So, that's $9 million a year. Schools with higher paid teachers, having students get bussed, etc. will get a disproportionally large cut than some of the other schools. The funds aren't evenly distributed. So, one school might get $2 million a year, while another barely nets half a million. Now, by breaking the districts up, you force a more even distribution of funds. 3 districts, each with 3 schools, gets $3 million. So now, a school that use to only get half a million, now has double the funds, and can better do it's job.


Other than that, yeah, at first it seems like blatent segregation, and the article seems to spin it that way, but in someways it makes sense.


As for this:

Originally Posted by BlaRo

And where do the 3 percent of Asians/American Indians go?

SEND 'EM BACK TO MEXICO! j/k...