Only in Quebec: Court overturns father's grounding of 12-year-old

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Court overturns father's grounding of 12-year-old
2 days ago

OTTAWA (AFP) — A Canadian court has lifted a 12-year-old girl's grounding, overturning her father's punishment for disobeying his orders to stay off the Internet, his lawyer said Wednesday.

The girl had taken her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on websites he tried to block, and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer.

The father's lawyer Kim Beaudoin said the disciplinary measures were for the girl's "own protection" and is appealing the ruling.

"She's a child," Beaudoin told AFP. "At her age, children test their limits and it's up to their parents to set boundaries."

"I started an appeal of the decision today to reestablish parental authority, and to ensure that this case doesn't set a precedent," she said. Otherwise, said Beaudoin, "parents are going to be walking on egg shells from now on."

"I think most children respect their parents and would never go so far as to take them to court, but it's clear that some would and we have to ask ourselves how far this will go."

According to court documents, the girl's Internet transgression was just the latest in a string of broken house rules. Even so, Justice Suzanne Tessier found her punishment too severe.

Beaudoin noted the girl used a court-appointed lawyer in her parents' 10-year custody dispute to launch her landmark case against dear old dad.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...NWFDWAg-mVfleg



Welcome to a world where parenting is legislated.

[Vector]

I don't even understand how these cases are even heard. How does a 12 year old take anyone to court?

[Viper007Bond]

Originally Posted by Vector

I don't even understand how these cases are even heard. How does a 12 year old take anyone to court?

And how did she pay for it? And what fuck took the case?

Ah Canada, our redneck bastard stepchild.

[Firecat]

I had to find out more because this is so ridiculous. It doesn't make it any better, but here is some more context (and some answers on how she did it)...

The father, who is divorced but has legal custody of his daughter, cut off her Internet access after she chatted on websites he had tried to block. She then used a friend's Internet connection to post inappropriate pictures of herself, Beaudoin said.

After discovering that, the father told his daughter she couldn't go on the three-day school trip. According to Beaudoin, the daughter "slammed the door" and went to live with her mother, who was willing to let her take the trip.

However, the school wouldn't allow the girl to go unless both parents consented or she obtained a court order. That prompted the girl, with her mother's support, to take legal action against her father, culminating in Friday's ruling.

According to Beaudoin, Tessier found that denying the trip was unduly severe punishment. The fact that the girl is now living with her mother also factored into the judge's ruling, she said.

http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpo...9-5b53dcfffff0

[emil_t]

and today we find out how to make your child become a coke addict in no more than 6 year in 5 easy steps.

i mean it's hard for the child to take the divorce let alone a law suit ..., well this is how parents think that they can win their daughters, "sure your mother doesn't let you play with the 1500 W power tools in the pool, but hey your at daddys now"

[phuckingduck]

Or a court order seems to be the phrase that allows this. What jackass lawyer for the schools wrote that cute little clause in there?

[petarkb]

Originally Posted by Firecat

I had to find out more because this is so ridiculous. It doesn't make it any better, but here is some more context (and some answers on how she did it)...

http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpo...9-5b53dcfffff0

Well, there you have it. It has nothing to do with the nanny state, it's about custody rights.

[DaveTheCompGuy]

Originally Posted by Vector

I don't even understand how these cases are even heard. How does a 12 year old take anyone to court?

Your tax dollars at work.

[LeVeL]

The world we live in has a huge c0ck permanently stuck in its ass. I am constantly amazed at how dumb/ridiculous people are.

[emil_t]

Originally Posted by LeVeL

The world we live in has a huge c0ck permanently stuck in its ass. I am constantly amazed at how dumb/ridiculous people are.

actually this happens because they are takeing the law literally not with common sence as it was intened.

this happens when smart people use loophole to get more money, and dumb people to do dumb things and get the legal right to do it.

[watto]

WTF!?!?!

That's just bizarre. And ridiculous.

[Cobol74]

Would not happen here as no judge would ever give a man custody of his children, even if the mother was an alcoholic, drug using, nymphomaniac cum prostitute who continually disobeyed court orders and deliberately lied to the children about their father being an abuser.

I am not kidding.

[BlaRo]

She posted inappropriate pictures of herself, at age 12? Jeez, it's really saving this guy all the work.



Nice girl. Yeah, classy. She's got a bright future ahead of her...

[hansvonaxion]

Judge runs an internet chat site for underrage kiddies.

[Cobol74]

Well next step would be to give the child up to the state - if you can not instill dicipline and the child takes you to court every time you try to instil dicipline then you can not look after the child in all fairness. If Canadians do the maths then they are out of pocket big time and the child is on course for a life of crime - damn.

[idk]

Originally Posted by DaveTheCompGuy

Your tax dollars at work.

Isn't that a civil lawsuit that the plaintiffs or the defendant have to pay for themselves (whoever looses)

[epp_b]

What? Since when can a minor represent themselves in a matter of law? Then again, this is a personal matter between and parent and child, I can't even see how law fits into this.

But, then, we are talking about Quebec...

[Viper007Bond]

Originally Posted by epp_b

What? Since when can a minor represent themselves in a matter of law? Then again, this is a personal matter between and parent and child, I can't even see how law fits into this.

But, then, we are talking about Quebec...

The moron mom brought it on behalf of the daughter.

[hansvonaxion]

Originally Posted by idk

Isn't that a civil lawsuit that the plaintiffs or the defendant have to pay for themselves (whoever looses)

Originally Posted by epp_b

What? Since when can a minor represent themselves in a matter of law? Then again, this is a personal matter between and parent and child, I can't even see how law fits into this.

But, then, we are talking about Quebec...

I believe it says she used the court appointed lawyer that was representing her during the custody battle. 10 year custody fight, and the parents (and courts) are too stupid to realise the kid is playing them against each other.

[petarkb]

Originally Posted by Cobol74

Well next step would be to give the child up to the state - if you can not instill dicipline and the child takes you to court every time you try to instil dicipline then you can not look after the child in all fairness.

In Soviet Russia... Wait, that's EXACTLY what they did in Soviet Russia.