Pirates can claim UK asylum

jetsetter · April 21st, 2008, 12:51 AM

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THE Royal Navy, once the scourge of brigands on the high seas, has been told by the Foreign Office not to detain pirates because doing so may breach their human rights.

Warships patrolling pirate-infested waters, such as those off Somalia, have been warned that there is also a risk that captured pirates could claim asylum in Britain.

The Foreign Office has advised that pirates sent back to Somalia could have their human rights breached because, under Islamic law, they face beheading for murder or having a hand chopped off for theft.

In 2005 there were almost 40 attacks by pirates and 16 vessels were hijacked and held for ransom. Employing high-tech weaponry, they kill, steal and hold ships’ crews to ransom. This year alone pirates killed three people near the Philippines.

Last week French commandos seized a Somali pirate gang that had held a luxury yacht with 22 French citizens on board. The hijackers were paid off by the boat’s owner and then a French helicopter carrier dispatched 50 commandos to seize the hijackers and the ransom money on dry land.

Britain is part of a coalition force that patrols piracy stricken areas and the guidance has troubled navy officers who believe they should have more freedom to intervene.

The guidance was sharply criticised by Julian Brazier MP, the Conservative shipping spokesman, who said: “These people commit horrendous offences. The solution is not to turn a blind eye but to turn them over to the local authorities. The convention on human rights quite rightly doesn’t cover the high seas. It’s a pathetic indictment of what our legal system has come to.”

A Foreign Office spokesman said: “There are issues about human rights and what might happen in these circumstances. The main thing is to ensure any incident is resolved peacefully.”

The guidance is the latest blow to the robust image of the navy. Last year 15 of its sailors were taken prisoner by the Iranians and publicly humiliated.

In the 19th century, British warships largely eradicated piracy when they policed the oceans. The death penalty for piracy on the high seas remained on the statute books until 1998. Modern piracy ranges from maritime mugging to stealing from merchant ships with the crew held at gunpoint.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3736239.ece

Anyone tired of all of this PC shit coming out of the UK? images/smilies/wacko.gif

Donington · April 21st, 2008, 12:54 AM

Then what about ninjas?

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Anyone tired of all of these topics about PC shit coming out of the UK?

Yes

jetsetter · April 21st, 2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Donington

Anyone tired of all of these topics about PC shit coming out of the UK?

I wouldn't have posted it had I not thought it serious. This article highlights a significant problem with the way things are being run.

Momentum57 · April 21st, 2008, 01:03 AM

i think they were thinking of the porno with the hot pirates

watto · April 21st, 2008, 02:15 AM

The UK is just turning into a pussy nation.

Grow some balls!

Vette Boss · April 21st, 2008, 02:45 AM

Indeed, I thought America was weak when it came to certain issues. Now it seems the UK is no better.

What happened to balls and fists of iron?

BlaRo · April 21st, 2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Momentum57

i think they were thinking of the porno with the hot pirates

http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/pirates.jpg

Modern pirates are boring.

tigger · April 21st, 2008, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by watto

Grow some balls!

Not 75 years ago the English were a bunch of imperialist badasses. Oh how the mighty have fallen images/smilies/tongue.gif

. This is just pathetic. Now instead of them getting captured without a fight by Iranians in PT boats, it will be Somalians in fishing boats.

Scooby5 · April 21st, 2008, 11:35 AM

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The Foreign Office has advised that pirates sent back to Somalia could have their human rights breached because, under Islamic law, they face beheading for murder or having a hand chopped off for theft.

Don't they they think they should have thought about that BEFORE becoming pucking pirates?? Punishment fits the crime.

Lurch0001 · April 21st, 2008, 11:49 AM

Wait ... so a British citizen can be detained without charges for using that most dangerous of weapons, a camera, but the Royal Navy won't detain a friggin pirate?!? Oh FFS ....

Hidden_Hunter · April 21st, 2008, 01:21 PM

Personally I don't think we do another to defend our waters, Indonesian fishing boats raid our waters daily for sharks and are making species endangered. They get caught spend 4 weeks in a comfy australian prison then they're off back doing it again (we even return their ships half the time ffs)

Personally I think we should arrest them and destroy their ship in front of them (with the main deckgun) and if ships try and do a runner start taking potshots at them with the deckgun till they surrender their boat.

Vector · May 1st, 2008, 04:41 PM

Sounds fine to me, don't send them back or detain them.

Just blow them out of the water.

No Boss · May 2nd, 2008, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaRo

Modern pirates are boring.

Teagan Presley FTW!

Blind_Io · May 2nd, 2008, 05:11 AM

Pirates can claim UK asylum...

Let's see Ninjas do that!

vRS · May 2nd, 2008, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by No Boss

Teagan Presley FTW!

More like tap tap tap tap and tap. There doing a sequel as well........................... I heard........

katwalk · May 2nd, 2008, 04:15 PM

hahaha I was actually unaware that people ACTUALLY still pirated things other than software images/smilies/lol.gif

jetsetter · May 2nd, 2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by katwalk

hahaha I was actually unaware that people ACTUALLY still pirated things other than software images/smilies/lol.gif

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/20...s/pirates-text

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