So I am starting a new website to defeat my pet peeve... - Page 3

Ford Prefect · April 26th, 2008, 03:16 PM

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Also Football (Proper) is the biggest sport in the world so get with it.

you can´t force anyone to like it, but you have to aknowledge that the vast majority of the world does... or at least it appears to be the only thing that many people -regardless of their background, skin color, religion, favorite sort of chocolate- can agree on...

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Originally Posted by Quadrax

Of all the fucked up things in the world, this is what pisses you off the most?

seriously...

cvrefugee · April 26th, 2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageIdiot

Flags don't hold any meaning to me. Nationalism breeds hate and then violence, it's been proven again and again. A flag is just a sheet of cloth with a design printed on it to me.

Nationalism isn't inherently evil, as there are extremes to most every political idea or value. You might want to take a political theory or world politics class in the future so you don't make yourself sound ignorant.

llpc60 · April 26th, 2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cvrefugee

Nationalism isn't inherently evil, as there are extremes to most every political idea or value. You might want to take a political theory or world politics class in the future so you don't make yourself sound ignorant.

and you might want to go for a smoke.

Twerp128 · April 26th, 2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VillageIdiot

Nationalism breeds hate and then violence

Yep, and guns don't kill people, video games and rock music kill people.

matt2000 · April 26th, 2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobol74

In our case the waving of flags that are not on public buildings, or at a very special occasion is sort of frowned upon as it is a device used by neo Nazi parties to try to appeal to the nationalistic element in citizens of GB. Oh and the other place where there are lots of flags in N.Ireland.

There is the exact reason why I don't care about political correctness and shit. There are a couple of flag fliers near me (one guy who puts up every flag on every special occasion, like saint George's day or saint Patrick's day) and I've yet to see a tatty flag in this country.

I don't see why someone shouldn't fly their flag, and I don't even want to get started on patriotism, I really never understood people's problems with it...

I agree with the idea that people should show respect with flags, but leave it there please.

H0nzik · April 26th, 2008, 06:57 PM

Here, flying, or displaying flags in any way on private homes has been discredited by the communist regime. Everyone had to display a Soviet and a Czechoslovak flag on certain days of the year or elso he'd be in trouble. Since then, no one ever does it. Unless we're winning some sports event or something. And the extreme rightists do it, like anywhere else.

Shawn · April 26th, 2008, 08:35 PM

I think I understand why so many Americans like hanging the US flag outside their house or business, but can someone explain to me this retiring of flags?

No offense, I know it's the symbol of your country, but it's afterall just a $5 flag. Okay, burning flags is characteristically unpatriotic, but why can't you just chuck away the tattered piece of cloth?

If it was draped on a loved one's coffin or something I'd understand, but I find it laughable that people aren't willing to part with a sun-faded, tattered flag unless it's given a proper sendoff.

jetsetter · April 26th, 2008, 10:36 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2204/2422106298_1b1ed7dd70_o.jpg

I'm assuming something like this would be frowned upon in Europe. That is quite unfortunate. I love this type of display.

teeb · April 26th, 2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

*large image*

I'm assuming something like this would be frowned upon in Europe. That is quite unfortunate. I love this type of display.

They wouldn't have flags hanging down, probably. I know the giant advert screens in Glasgow Central frequently show ads for VisitScotland, including large flags, though.

On the other hand, most people in the UK know what country they're in without needing a flag-based reminder... images/smilies/tongue.gif

anti-net · April 26th, 2008, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by teeb

On the other hand, most people in the UK know what country they're in without needing a flag-based reminder... images/smilies/tongue.gif

Yeah we have chavs that steal your wallet to remind you your in the UK

Donington · April 27th, 2008, 02:22 AM

^ Not to mention the epic gang war between the immovable force of the Helston Massive and heat-packing titans of the Porthleven Posse of which weekly battle royales leave both villages an uzi-bullet strewn mess of shot up chip shops and the burning hulks of '64 Impala lowriders

Scott · April 27th, 2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Quadrax

Of all the fucked up things in the world, this is what pisses you off the most?

Don't get me wrong, i admire the pride you have for your country but seriously, come on.

No, not the most... not even close, but it is just an annoyance to me that people cannot take the time to show proper respect and follow the clearly published (and easy to find) rules governing how it should be flown. They find the time to buy a flag, and run it up the pole, but when it comes to taking care of it... well that is just too hard? My position is simple, either pay attention and do it the right way, or please just take it down. I am surprisingly nice in my approach by the way, not mean or angry in any way!

I stop when I have a free moment and make them aware of the issue, that is all. I figure putting a website up to bring a few other people together that might feel the same way might be an interesting way to go about it, and if it flops... oh well, but somehow, I think it will do just what I want it to. Of course, it is all about proper language and putting together a site that makes sense and it not some crazy whacked out thing ranting and raving about the issue.

cvrefugee · April 27th, 2008, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by llpc60

and you might want to go for a smoke.

Não sabes que fumo mata?

Scott · April 27th, 2008, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shawn

I think I understand why so many Americans like hanging the US flag outside their house or business, but can someone explain to me this retiring of flags?

No offense, I know it's the symbol of your country, but it's afterall just a $5 flag. Okay, burning flags is characteristically unpatriotic, but why can't you just chuck away the tattered piece of cloth?

If it was draped on a loved one's coffin or something I'd understand, but I find it laughable that people aren't willing to part with a sun-faded, tattered flag unless it's given a proper sendoff.

Well, I will admit that the typical boy scouts retirement ceremony is rather involved, but if you read through it you will see that it is all about respecting the symbol of your country, just like flying the flag is a an act of showing pride in your country. You are providing your national symbol with a final bit of respect before it is done away with.

Here is a link to walk you thru the ceremony in case you did not know what was involved:

http://post369.columbus.oh.us/scouti...ag.retire.html

NOW, with that said... it is NOT required to do all that!! The US Flag Code simply states; "The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning." and that is all that is says. Cutting it up is not required, and you do NOT have to automatically destroy a flag that touched the ground either! That is one of MANY misconception that has been passed along for ages.... and one thing I intend to make known on my new site!

Scott · April 27th, 2008, 03:26 AM

a video just because I stumbled across it.... this is a pretty simple ceremony, not nearly as involved as the one I posted above....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBm2Lh0hE6M

llpc60 · April 27th, 2008, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cvrefugee

Não sabes que fumo mata?

so does being feisty

fbc · April 27th, 2008, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott

My position is simple, either pay attention and do it the right way, or please just take it down. I am surprisingly nice in my approach by the way, not mean or angry in any way!

I stop when I have a free moment and make them aware of the issue, that is all.

I think you're crossing a line here - it's absolutely none of your business - and you'd be told that in no uncertain terms if you knocked on my door and told me my flag wasn't good enough for you.

So it bugs you - that's fine, and good on you for having pride in something, but I think you need to mind your own business - and also be wary of the kind of whack-jobs a website like yours might attract.

jetsetter · April 27th, 2008, 03:58 AM

If the person who asked me to take the flag down offered to replace it I would be ok with it.

MadCow809 · April 27th, 2008, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott

a video just because I stumbled across it.... this is a pretty simple ceremony, not nearly as involved as the one I posted above....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBm2Lh0hE6M

so much unnecessary crap for us non-nationalists.

But so are many other traditional rituals, to each's own I guess.

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April 26th, 2008, 10:36 PM	#48
jetsetter Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 02:45 PM Location: Most Serene Republic of California Posts: 4,457 Car: 1992 Toyota Pickup Rep Power: 32	I'm assuming something like this would be frowned upon in Europe. That is quite unfortunate. I love this type of display. __________________ “We have lived long but this is the noblest work of our whole lives. It will transform vast solitudes into thriving districts. The United States take rank this day among the first powers of the Earth.” -Signing of Louisiana Purchase - Robert Livingston "This month's public bread is provided by the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers. The Brotherhood uses only the finest flour: true Roman bread for true Romans." -Rome - Newsreader

April 27th, 2008, 03:26 AM	#55
Scott Previously known as ssnapier Joined: May 23rd, 2005 Last Online: 11:52 AM Location: Fort Detrick, Maryland Posts: 1,256 Car: RS2'd 95 Audi S-6 '06 Jetta TDI Rep Power: 20	a video just because I stumbled across it.... this is a pretty simple ceremony, not nearly as involved as the one I posted above.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBm2Lh0hE6M __________________

April 27th, 2008, 03:58 AM	#58
jetsetter Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 02:45 PM Location: Most Serene Republic of California Posts: 4,457 Car: 1992 Toyota Pickup Rep Power: 32	If the person who asked me to take the flag down offered to replace it I would be ok with it. __________________ “We have lived long but this is the noblest work of our whole lives. It will transform vast solitudes into thriving districts. The United States take rank this day among the first powers of the Earth.” -Signing of Louisiana Purchase - Robert Livingston "This month's public bread is provided by the Capitoline Brotherhood of Millers. The Brotherhood uses only the finest flour: true Roman bread for true Romans." -Rome - Newsreader

April 26th, 2008, 06:57 PM	#46
H0nzik Joined: Dec 14th, 2006 Last Online: 03:38 PM Location: Prague, Czech Republic Age: 24 Posts: 185 Car: Fabia RS Rep Power: 11	Here, flying, or displaying flags in any way on private homes has been discredited by the communist regime. Everyone had to display a Soviet and a Czechoslovak flag on certain days of the year or elso he'd be in trouble. Since then, no one ever does it. Unless we're winning some sports event or something. And the extreme rightists do it, like anywhere else.

April 26th, 2008, 08:35 PM	#47
Shawn FG's Highest Paid Male Whore Joined: May 26th, 2005 Last Online: 02:43 PM Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 7,177 Car: IS250 RWD Rep Power: 53	I think I understand why so many Americans like hanging the US flag outside their house or business, but can someone explain to me this retiring of flags? No offense, I know it's the symbol of your country, but it's afterall just a $5 flag. Okay, burning flags is characteristically unpatriotic, but why can't you just chuck away the tattered piece of cloth? If it was draped on a loved one's coffin or something I'd understand, but I find it laughable that people aren't willing to part with a sun-faded, tattered flag unless it's given a proper sendoff.

April 27th, 2008, 02:22 AM	#51
Donington Joined: Jan 26th, 2007 Last Online: August 24th, 2008 Location: London, Englandshire Posts: 2,613 Car: Peugeot 106 Rep Power: 38	^ Not to mention the epic gang war between the immovable force of the Helston Massive and heat-packing titans of the Porthleven Posse of which weekly battle royales leave both villages an uzi-bullet strewn mess of shot up chip shops and the burning hulks of '64 Impala lowriders