the Iraq War

richardhammondfan · October 24th, 2006, 01:36 PM

vote if you want british troops to come home

ryosuke · October 24th, 2006, 03:10 PM

no.

not because i am in favour of the war, but because if you screw up, you have to sort it out.

No Boss · October 24th, 2006, 04:14 PM

Pulling up a chair for this one....

I agree with ryosuke, I am completely against the war. But christ, before we go anywhere we need to clean up our mess.

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/"we never were 'stay the course'..."

jeffy777 · October 24th, 2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryosuke

no.

not because i am in favour of the war, but because if you screw up, you have to sort it out.

Yep....

zenkidori · October 24th, 2006, 05:19 PM

nuke it and be done with it. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

No Boss · October 24th, 2006, 07:51 PM

^ Well yeah. There's always option C. images/smilies/lol.gif

zaybxcwd12 · October 24th, 2006, 08:30 PM

I voted no. now if the question had of been should US and UK have started hostilties against Iraq it would have been no as well. To late now to pull out because it is a mess.

un-dee · October 24th, 2006, 09:03 PM

I think we all agree. Pulling out now would make the mess even bigger.

Blind_Io · October 24th, 2006, 09:11 PM

Wow, wouldn't it be great it everything were this simple. I'm so glad that the Iraq war is such a black and white issue for a change.

zenkidori · October 24th, 2006, 10:13 PM

trionic · October 25th, 2006, 10:45 PM

War actions and miserable failure of rebuild/money management have turned clock back in time.

In these overall difficult conditions, larger piaces usually disintegrate. Everybody takes care of themself, every religious faction, every province, every town, every town area and so on.

Afganistan had long lasting chaos until Taleban came and maintained order. There is big danger that Iraq ends up same, some radicals will take over.

Also Iraq is now becoming new number one sanctuary of different terrorist organizations.

It is very difficult to know which groups will stop fighting when USA/UK leave. Fact is that military victory is impossible, so troops should leave soon as Iraqs new military is able to survive, not control country but survive. Air support has to remain there for tens of years.

But of course decisions are done by "what looks best" and not what needs to be done. Just like certain American companies and republican politics who stole Iraqs rebuild money are not being sued in large scale because it would look bad in local media.

Firecat · October 26th, 2006, 04:53 AM

Catch-22. As long as foreign troops are on the ground, the insurgency will continue. And vice-versa.

I heard/read somewhere that there were talks of partitioning Iraq....

zenkidori · October 26th, 2006, 06:59 PM

So you're saying that the taliban was good because thier regime brought stability? That's retarded.

jeffy777 · October 26th, 2006, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firecat

I heard/read somewhere that there were talks of partitioning Iraq....

Bush recently said in an interview he's opposed to that.

No Boss · October 26th, 2006, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firecat

I heard/read somewhere that there were talks of partitioning Iraq....

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffy777

Bush recently said in an interview he's opposed to that.

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jeffy777 · October 26th, 2006, 09:22 PM

^^^ hahahaaaa, that's very fitting images/smilies/lol.gif

vRS · October 26th, 2006, 09:32 PM

We should get the country on his feet like get a proper Iraqi Army and Police force set up then pull most our troops out leaving some to help out until the mess has died down, things may change when we get a new PM though.

klutch · November 5th, 2006, 02:23 PM

I love overgeneralizations of a topic as complex as Iraq.

How long should American and British troops stay in Iraq? Should an arbitrary date be set? Should they leave when soldier fatalities reach a certain amount? Which parts of the 'mess' need to be 'cleaned' up?

If fixing the problem the American invasion created remains the requirements for withdrawl, don't expect the troops to be coming home within the next ten years.

py2e · November 5th, 2006, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Boss

Pulling up a chair for this one....

I agree with ryosuke, I am completely against the war. But christ, before we go anywhere we need to clean up our mess.

/"we never were 'stay the course'..."

so true. so true.

zenkidori · November 5th, 2006, 06:42 PM

ROFLPOWER that's great.

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October 24th, 2006, 01:36 PM	#1
richardhammondfan Joined: Oct 3rd, 2006 Last Online: March 27th, 2007 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	the Iraq War vote if you want british troops to come home

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ryosuke Joined: Jul 28th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2008 Location: franconofurd, germsmany Age: 23 Posts: 1,618 Car: FZ50 GTR Rep Power: 16	no. not because i am in favour of the war, but because if you screw up, you have to sort it out. __________________ Goddo supiido yuu! Burakku emparaa

October 24th, 2006, 04:14 PM	#3
No Boss Neener, neener, I banned your title! Joined: Oct 8th, 2005 Last Online: 05:27 AM Location: 'mericuh, someday the UK. Age: 23 Posts: 6,704 Car: 2005 Volvo S60 R Rep Power: 74	Pulling up a chair for this one.... I agree with ryosuke, I am completely against the war. But christ, before we go anywhere we need to clean up our mess. /"we never were 'stay the course'..." __________________

October 24th, 2006, 07:51 PM	#6
No Boss Neener, neener, I banned your title! Joined: Oct 8th, 2005 Last Online: 05:27 AM Location: 'mericuh, someday the UK. Age: 23 Posts: 6,704 Car: 2005 Volvo S60 R Rep Power: 74	^ Well yeah. There's always option C. __________________

October 24th, 2006, 05:19 PM	#5
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	nuke it and be done with it.

October 24th, 2006, 08:30 PM	#7
zaybxcwd12 Joined: Jul 17th, 2006 Last Online: 07:04 PM Location: Newcastle u Tyne Uk Age: 39 Posts: 789 Car: 2008 VW Touran S Rep Power: 11	I voted no. now if the question had of been should US and UK have started hostilties against Iraq it would have been no as well. To late now to pull out because it is a mess.

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un-dee I hate your sig! Joined: May 21st, 2004 Last Online: 02:33 PM Location: Frankfurt, Germany Age: 24 Posts: 1,410 Car: Mazda MX-3 Rep Power: 27	I think we all agree. Pulling out now would make the mess even bigger.

October 24th, 2006, 09:11 PM	#9
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October 25th, 2006, 10:45 PM	#11
trionic Joined: Oct 26th, 2005 Last Online: March 31st, 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 204 Rep Power: 0	War actions and miserable failure of rebuild/money management have turned clock back in time. In these overall difficult conditions, larger piaces usually disintegrate. Everybody takes care of themself, every religious faction, every province, every town, every town area and so on. Afganistan had long lasting chaos until Taleban came and maintained order. There is big danger that Iraq ends up same, some radicals will take over. Also Iraq is now becoming new number one sanctuary of different terrorist organizations. It is very difficult to know which groups will stop fighting when USA/UK leave. Fact is that military victory is impossible, so troops should leave soon as Iraqs new military is able to survive, not control country but survive. Air support has to remain there for tens of years. But of course decisions are done by "what looks best" and not what needs to be done. Just like certain American companies and republican politics who stole Iraqs rebuild money are not being sued in large scale because it would look bad in local media.

October 26th, 2006, 04:53 AM	#12
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: 07:20 PM Posts: 3,710 Rep Power: 28	Catch-22. As long as foreign troops are on the ground, the insurgency will continue. And vice-versa. I heard/read somewhere that there were talks of partitioning Iraq.... __________________

October 26th, 2006, 06:59 PM	#13
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	So you're saying that the taliban was good because thier regime brought stability? That's retarded.

October 26th, 2006, 09:22 PM	#16
jeffy777 Joined: Feb 8th, 2005 Last Online: 07:47 PM Location: US Age: 27 Posts: 5,662 Car: '04 Toyota Sienna, crippled people like vans.... Rep Power: 53	^^^ hahahaaaa, that's very fitting __________________ A man named Jeffy once said, "If laziness is craziness, then I've lost my marbles...and I don't feel like trying to find them."

October 26th, 2006, 09:32 PM	#17
vRS Joined: Nov 22nd, 2004 Last Online: 10:50 AM Location: Stirling, Scotland Age: 17 Posts: 1,567 Rep Power: 25	We should get the country on his feet like get a proper Iraqi Army and Police force set up then pull most our troops out leaving some to help out until the mess has died down, things may change when we get a new PM though.

November 5th, 2006, 02:23 PM	#18
klutch Courteous urinator Joined: Jan 6th, 2006 Last Online: 06:15 PM Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,754 Car: Whatever's in the press fleet. Rep Power: 29	I love overgeneralizations of a topic as complex as Iraq. How long should American and British troops stay in Iraq? Should an arbitrary date be set? Should they leave when soldier fatalities reach a certain amount? Which parts of the 'mess' need to be 'cleaned' up? If fixing the problem the American invasion created remains the requirements for withdrawl, don't expect the troops to be coming home within the next ten years. __________________

November 5th, 2006, 06:42 PM	#20
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	ROFLPOWER that's great.

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