UK: Bailed terror suspect goes on run

jetsetter · June 29th, 2008, 09:27 PM

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Who is this guy? UK Terror Suspect on the Run

Yesterday a man charged with multiple terror related offenses in Britain skipped bail. That's right, in the UK they let you out on bail if you're a suspected terrorist.

The man has only been identified as a 23 (or 24, depending on which paper you read) year old who had charged with "conspiracy to cause explosions and conspiracy to murder". His bail conditions were such that he was under virtual house arrest, with one noted exception: he was allowed out of the house daily to say prayers at the local mosque.

Man suspected of being a terrorist is allowed to go to mosque. Brilliant!

He left a suicide note and is currently being hunted by the British authorities. Police deny the suicide note was a martyr's last will as is common among terrorist suicide murderers.

But it seems odd that British authorities are not naming the suspected terrorist. It's quite common in Britain for authorities to forbid newspapers from carrying the names of persons accused of crimes. But terrorism? You'd think they'd want the help of the public in finding this man. After all, what if the suicide note was just a ruse?

So, any one have any info on the identity of this guy? I've done some Googling around, but can't seem to figure out who is currently out on bail but will be tried for terrorism later this year.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193150.php

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A man who is out on bail for terror charges is understood to have gone on the run from police.

The man, 24, who is due to face trial later this year, is accused of conspiracy to cause explosions and conspiracy to murder.

Channel 4 News said the man, who has not been named, left a suicide note which was found by his family.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman refused to comment further on the case for operational reasons.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7478621.stm

Who in the fuck bails a terror suspect....... images/smilies/wacko.gif

Peter3hg · June 29th, 2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

Who in the fuck bails a terror suspect....... images/smilies/wacko.gif

Someone who has little evidence.

jetsetter · June 29th, 2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter3hg

Someone who has little evidence.

Negative on that one bub, terrorism is something different. It's like giving bail to an espionage suspect.

Cobol74 · June 29th, 2008, 09:43 PM

Its OK he's being followed to see who his mates are - not.

anti-net · June 29th, 2008, 09:56 PM

Maybe someone left him on a train images/smilies/wink.gif

(Also, he's back in prison now)

MacGuffin · June 29th, 2008, 10:02 PM

Well, in Europe we haven't completely given up on the "innocent until proven guilty" principle yet...

jetsetter · June 29th, 2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MacGuffin

Well, in Europe we haven't completely given up on the "innocent until proven guilty" principle yet...

But bail can be denied in special circumstances. This is what happens in the United States:

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In 1984 Congress replaced the Bail Reform Act of 1966 with new bail law, codified at United States Code, Title 18, Sections 3141-3150. The main innovation of the new law is that it allows pre-trial detention of individuals based upon their danger to the community; under prior law and traditional bail statutes in the U.S., pre-trial detention was to be based solely upon the risk of flight.

18 USC 3142(f) provides that only persons who fit into certain categories are subject to detention without bail: persons charged with a crime of violence, an offense for which the maximum sentence is life imprisonment or death, certain drug offenses for which the maximum offense is greater than 10 years, repeat felony offenders, or if the defendant poses a serious risk of flight, obstruction of justice, or witness tampering. There is a special hearing held to determine whether the defendant fits within these categories; anyone not within them must be admitted to bail.

MacGuffin · June 29th, 2008, 10:10 PM

That is up to the judge and what facts are presented to him.

Peter3hg · June 29th, 2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

Negative on that one bub, terrorism is something different. It's like giving bail to an espionage suspect.

Wrong. If the evidence is largely circumstantial then it is absolutely right that bail should be granted, even for such serious crimes.

teeb · June 29th, 2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsetter

Who in the fuck bails a terror suspect....... images/smilies/wacko.gif

Good question, especially since the government can now have 42 illicitly-earned and morally questionable days to keep him without charge.

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