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No Boss · April 21st, 2006, 02:15 AM

eesh...

$1 trillion / 295 million people = $3,389.83 for every man, woman and child in the US.

/Flame on.

Firecat · April 21st, 2006, 02:24 AM

I pay my tax dollars begrudgingly.

zenkidori · April 21st, 2006, 02:56 AM

The end of this will come when people stop paying for it.

Jacobfox · April 21st, 2006, 03:00 AM

holy shit
how the hell did we go from a lightning war to 1 trillion dollars
our deficit is getting bigger and bigger
damn you bush and GOP congress

SL65 · April 21st, 2006, 03:15 AM

I hate the political section and this threads no different...

...but $1 trillion images/smilies/eek.gif

Can the US govt claim for these costs...I would like to know how much of it has really aided the restoration of Iraq.

zenkidori · April 21st, 2006, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobfox

holy shit
how the hell did we go from a lightning war to 1 trillion dollars
our deficit is getting bigger and bigger
damn you bush and GOP congress

it hasn't hit 1 trillion, and in reality it's far from it. some people are just saying it could get that expensive.

Firecat · April 21st, 2006, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenkidori

The end of this will come when people stop paying for it.

In other words, it will never end.

Ultra_Kool_Dude · April 21st, 2006, 03:35 AM

Hello inflation.

Viper007Bond · April 21st, 2006, 07:23 AM

It's not real money. It's money we're borrowing against our grandchildren and from countries where we'll never have to pay it back. images/smilies/lol.gif

Okay, I'm kidding, but still...

Z Draci · April 21st, 2006, 10:19 AM

Imagine how much better our country would be if the administration invested $1 trillion into something INSIDE our borders.

flyingfridge · April 21st, 2006, 10:36 AM

The are investing is something that is getting scarcer INSIDE your borders, OIL...

M3lover · April 21st, 2006, 12:16 PM

^Hehe, good point.

One trillion in research and development of alternative energi sources, fusion power, hydrogen powered stuff etc. vs. one trillion for a pretty messy country with oil.

Nice choice

mmap · April 21st, 2006, 01:51 PM

Well, hopefully this will make everyone think twice before feeling trigger happy the next time...

zenkidori · April 21st, 2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingfridge

The are investing is something that is getting scarcer INSIDE your borders, OIL...

nope. we have more than enough oil reserves to power us into the future, and we even export oil. we just want to use the arab oil all up first.

Firecat · April 22nd, 2006, 02:51 AM

It's bigger than oil. It's the entire military-industrial complex

zenkidori · April 22nd, 2006, 03:14 AM

well duh, heheh. It's a number of factors, but one of the reasons for us importing so much oil is so that we use foreign reserves up, then we can export our massive(and they are) reserves for hella money. The military-industrial complex wants any reason it can find to develop new technology and weapons, not because they like killing people or making weapons, but because they can get the government to give them billions of dollars. We don't need "state of the art, next generation" shit to help fight some crazy losers who can't shoot straight in the first place, but try telling someone involved, "hey, we really don't need this new weapon system, we're doing good right now and if we just spent more money on training, intelligence and body armour I think we'd be ok, this new toy is kinda superfluous" and see where it gets you.

Firecat · April 22nd, 2006, 03:25 AM

lol...Yeah, of course. I just find that much of the anti-war movement (and others) harp on the oil factor, when the other is a much larger component (in terms of money and motivation).

And yeah, we do have a lot of oil domestically (not to mention our concentration of oil shale). Although I never really thought of it in terms of using up foreign reserves then exporting our own, that's just too sinister for me to think of.

zenkidori · April 22nd, 2006, 03:36 AM

sinister to you and I, maybe, but it makes great business sense. Another problem is that ecomentalists and other groups stop us from really reaching all our possible reserves. There is so much untapped oil under US soil that is protected by various environmental concerns it's staggering. With oil reserves depleated overseas, there's now an excuse to bypass the ecomentalists and start extracting, and then exporting it at huge profit.

ecomentalists are also a big part of what's stopping us from using nulcear power, because they don't know WTF they are talking about.

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zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	The end of this will come when people stop paying for it.

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mmap Joined: Sep 12th, 2004 Last Online: 11:08 AM Location: Finland Age: 29 Posts: 1,229 Car: Opel Astra / Suzuki VX800 Rep Power: 19	Well, hopefully this will make everyone think twice before feeling trigger happy the next time...

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zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	well duh, heheh. It's a number of factors, but one of the reasons for us importing so much oil is so that we use foreign reserves up, then we can export our massive(and they are) reserves for hella money. The military-industrial complex wants any reason it can find to develop new technology and weapons, not because they like killing people or making weapons, but because they can get the government to give them billions of dollars. We don't need "state of the art, next generation" shit to help fight some crazy losers who can't shoot straight in the first place, but try telling someone involved, "hey, we really don't need this new weapon system, we're doing good right now and if we just spent more money on training, intelligence and body armour I think we'd be ok, this new toy is kinda superfluous" and see where it gets you.

April 22nd, 2006, 03:25 AM	#17
Firecat Politically Charged Joined: Mar 23rd, 2005 Last Online: November 19th, 2008 Posts: 3,598 Rep Power: 26	lol...Yeah, of course. I just find that much of the anti-war movement (and others) harp on the oil factor, when the other is a much larger component (in terms of money and motivation). And yeah, we do have a lot of oil domestically (not to mention our concentration of oil shale). Although I never really thought of it in terms of using up foreign reserves then exporting our own, that's just too sinister for me to think of. __________________

April 22nd, 2006, 03:36 AM	#18
zenkidori Banned For Trolling Joined: Jun 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 15th, 2007 Location: A mile high...and then some Posts: 4,809 Car: RX-7, Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 0	sinister to you and I, maybe, but it makes great business sense. Another problem is that ecomentalists and other groups stop us from really reaching all our possible reserves. There is so much untapped oil under US soil that is protected by various environmental concerns it's staggering. With oil reserves depleated overseas, there's now an excuse to bypass the ecomentalists and start extracting, and then exporting it at huge profit. ecomentalists are also a big part of what's stopping us from using nulcear power, because they don't know WTF they are talking about.

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