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Old July 21st, 2009, 4:44 PM   #21
 
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They should take that damn trdent off. Who the fuck do they think they are? Navy SEALs? Being a pussy is not synonmous with "elite warrior.". Damn hippies
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I really hate these idiots because they are attacking the people on the ship, not the company that does it. Because you know, everyone always has a job because that is what they want to do and not because they need to feed their family and couldn't find something better right? Same as the petards that throw paint on people that buy fur. Yeah that will stop the fur industry. If these people had half a brain they would look into ways through legal movements in japan to outlaw or reform the industry.
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I really hate these idiots because they are attacking the people on the ship, not the company that does it. Because you know, everyone always has a job because that is what they want to do and not because they need to feed their family and couldn't find something better right? Same as the petards that throw paint on people that buy fur. Yeah that will stop the fur industry. If these people had half a brain they would look into ways through legal movements in japan to outlaw or reform the industry.
unfortunately its the same thing where ever you go. I was at the job center the other month and a woman in there was getting annoyed, cursing and yelling at the bloke at the other side of the table. Apparently there had been some error she had made on a form, the JSA wasn't going to get paid in until it got corrected and she's there yelling at this bloke for something that wasn't his fault in the first place. Most people tend to think of a faceless company and just blindly rage on whoever gets in their path and not really use that squishy thing between their ears and think things through.
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Actually Henry Morgan served under the British crown, and piracy was outlawed by international law in 1856...
IIRC "pirates" who served for some country where refered to as privateers ... but I could also be mistaken.
And in did'nt know that piracy was outlawed that late, so thanks for the info.
But if im not completly wrong at least the pirats who did not have some sort of letter of marque, so they were'nt supportet by some goverment were outlaws. Because quite a few of them ended up dangling from the gallows, like for example Calico Jack Rackham who also was the first to fly the Jolly Roger.

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IIRC "pirates" who served for some country where refered to as privateers ... but I could also be mistaken.
And in did'nt know that piracy was outlawed that late, so thanks for the info.
But if im not completly wrong at least the pirats who did not have some sort of letter of marque, so they were'nt supportet by some goverment were outlaws. Because quite a few of them ended up dangling from the gallows, like for example Calico Jack Rackham who also was the first to fly the Jolly Roger.
You are correct and Henry Morgan retired a very wealthy man when Britain decided to outlaw Piracy way back in *mumblemumble*... images/smilies/tongue.gif
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Hunting the ENDANGERED whales for commerce sucks donkey balls, hunting the "normal" whales, well, ok.

HOWEVER, almost killing innocent and probably very poor fishermen who try to give their families something to eat by working under impossible conditions is just utterly stupid.
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I support the fight against whailing, but damn. These people don't have a clue what they are doing. If you want to stall them by throwing things on the ship and maybe even a little push is O.K with me, but why the hell do they drop a big dinghy in the ocean in the dark of night and then lose it? Paul Watson takes to big of a risk with these things. If they fall overboard they will all die in minutes, and he's like; "yeah, part of the job, now get on with your work". These people have family's too you fat-ass, including the Japanase who try to earn a living.

They are really unorganized; Peter Brown is a complete arse, i wonder why the hell he is on that ship, with his arrogant attitude to anyone who is 'below his rank'.
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Well now i've actually watched a few episodes I have to say: I'm stunned what kind of stupid decisions they somtimes make like they think they are immune from failiure because of thier great goal. Also I can't stand Paul Watson he is so self-rightious and hearing him say stuff like, that it is coward and that you should not be on this boat if you don't want to do something as stupid as boarding the japanese ship makes me despise him.
And seriously what was up with that was up with that whole hoping on the japanese ship in the first place. In what different way should the japanese have reacted. Honestly boarding an "enemy" ship and at the time they hit the deck informing the press that crew-merbers have been "kidnapped" is bloody retarded.
Also the 1. mate is absolutly incompetent IMHO.
I have now also seen the episode in which Watson gets "shot". It looks rather staged to me: It would have been a shot right in the heart which I think is rather hard shot in these conditions. But even if the japanese had somebody capeable of that onboard the analysis of the evidence on Watson is just odd. Yes there is a hole in his bullerproof-vest but they never show the entry-hole in the jacket and there is little to no trauma, that is something thats really odd. And the "bullet" they pull out of the vest is in no way a bullet.
And that is in someway the final nail in the coffin in terms of credebility for this show, at least for me.
I mean making up an assassination attempt for a publicity stunt is fucking retarded.
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Let's forget for a moment the hippies and the "machos",
and think about the whales being exterminated off the face of the earth
for profit - making money - money which can be made in a billion different ways that don't include exterminating rare species.

Anyway, was Jesus a hippie? He wore a toga, fought for the rights of the downtrodden
and made an "epic fail" when rich people ordered their macho subjects to nail him to a cross.
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Jesus WAS a hippy in concept.
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No, he was a zombie, duh.
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Jesus sacrificed everything for those he fought for.
Hippies want everyone to sacrifice for those things they fight for -- except for themselves. A cause is fine and dandy until they have to give up their stuff.
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Hippies want everyone to sacrifice for those things they fight for -- except for themselves. A cause is fine and dandy until they have to give up their stuff.
Wow. That is perfect.
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Seen the adverts, never watched because I don't support Greenpeace like terrorist organizations.

Judging from this thread, it's a retarded show as I thought.


e. Yes, terrorists you anon neg-repping hippy.

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Seen the adverts, never watched because I don't support Greenpeace like terrorist organizations.

Judging from this thread, it's a retarded show as I thought.
To be honest, as much as I hate them I can't help but watch. When the Discovery camera crew set the camera running and leave (because they suspect the people they are filming are about to die when the boat sinks) you can't help but think "damn, these guys are idiots".
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To be honest, as much as I hate them I can't help but watch. When the Discovery camera crew set the camera running and leave (because they suspect the people they are filming are about to die when the boat sinks) you can't help but think "damn, these guys are idiots".
I can see why someone would watch it, either because they agree how whales are cute or hate the enviromentalists.

But I just can't stand watching plain idiocy for some reason, I just can't do it. Maybe it's because I don't want to see anyone get hurt, or because I'd just get angry and started shouting random vulgarities.
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Because its funny. Its funny to see stupid people fail at a cause that isnt really important (saving whales that are not at all endangered) at the cost of human lives that they apperantly dont care about.

First, laugh as they try to justify it

Second, laugh as they condemn simple laborers as the next-worst thing to hitler

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I'm a Norwegian, hence I support whaling... Reading this topic makes me want to go to the shops and buy some whale meat for dinner, if only to piss GreenPOS off... images/smilies/tongue.gif

We're (Norwegians) only hunting Minke whales anyway, which are in no way threatened or endangered.
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The best bit are the "Know your cold" mini question bits during the advert break. None of them are facts about Minke whales, they're all covering perfectly protected species..
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