0i'm saying death penalty, but whatever. I saw a TV special on that whole case once, just apalling.
51This is the first I've heard of it honestly.
I've generally being against capital punishment, just because of the fact that innocent people have been killed. Perhaps I could support it in cases where the defendent pleads guilty, that way you can be sure.
124Yes, that would bring them back.Originally Posted by zenkidori
No you can't. There's a reason why for instance Norwegian courts only will give judgement on the basis of a confession in small cases, like breaking a bottle to a wall, or stealing a car.
51What is that reason?
0it's not about bringing people back, it's about justice. if you kill a whole bunch of people you should expect be killed yourself.
124Well, you might cover for someone. You might be deemed a nutter, and admitting a murder to get someone else off the hook, you might not remember what you did, and cough up what you think you did.
It's the same as the traditional western way of giving eye witnesses a very important possision. The fact of the matter is, that eye witnesses are influated by stereotypes, light, media and much more.
An eye for an eye. Sounds more like revenge than justice. Why don't we make it public? Personally, I think that those who SCREAM for the blood of the condemned, should be forced to watch a man get beheaded. Why not? It's justice.
The death penalty is the one thing of American society that disgust me more than anything else.
51Which is why you have a trial, evidence...and a review process.
111To be truthful what really disgusts me is the lax and weak punishments of many European countries. Some seem to forget that crime deserves punishment.
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an american burgular would have a field day there cuz no1 would have a gun and if he were caught he'd be slapped on the wrist and lectured
111One reason I like Texas. You kill a Texan and they kill you right back.
124We don't KILL them!
You can do a lot of demage without a gun. Furthermore, he might think twice about coming into a Norwegian house, too many hunters with shotguns.
Yes, it's a bit like the old tribe principle. Let's take them to a stone table and crush their head with a big stone.
0I honestly don't see how you can justify letting a murderer keep on living.
and yeah i would have to agree that a lot of the punishments for crime in europe is pretty namby pamby, but who knows, maybe europeans are all huge wussies and it's actually just as bad for them, haha.
111Would be cheaper.Let's take them to a stone table and crush their head with a big stone.
124Well, it simply goes against the principle of a democracy. No man should have the right to say "this man must die".
It isn't justice, it's revenge. Lust for revenge clouds the mind. I think there should be broadcasts of all executions, and all those who wish to keep the death sentence should be FORCED to watch every single one. Also, they should make it more bloody. Maybe that will have some effect on the general public, at least if we look away from the group of young boys in the age 14-19, who'll probably LOVE IT. How in the name of lord can you justify MURDER?
111As I said before, it is not murder, it is punishment. And yes, there is a difference. But do not think I suggest it for many types of ciminals, only two actually. Traitors and murderers.in the name of lord can you justify MURDER?
124All those who fought for freedom in the revolutionary war, was traitors.
It is murder. You take another man's life. He's dead. Punishment is confinement, and that is more than enough punishment.
There are several types of murder. Justifiable murder, unjustifiable murder, understandable murder, careless murder and accidental murder. It's the same for the bloke getting killed, he's dead.
111So? They were "traitors" to the Crown, not the United States.All those who fought for freedom in the revolutionary war, was traitors.
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Well, it simply goes against the principle of a democracy. No man should have the right to say "this man must die".democracy:# the political orientation of those who favor government by the people or by their elected representatives
# a political system in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect people to represent them
# majority rule: the doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole groupdemocracy rulesA 2002 Houston Chronicle poll of Texans found that when asked "Do you support the death penalty?", 69.1 percent responded that they did, 21.9 percent did not support, and 9.1% were not sure or gave no answer.
another great thing about being from texas is that every thread i post in eventually turns to a capital punishment debate
plus, what do you people know about democracy with the exception of say, the greeks we had it AGES before you!
111democracy rules
124At that time, my friend, there was no nation, there were rebels. They were traitors.
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