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Old July 6th, 2007, 6:41 PM   #1
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http://www.local6.com/spotlight/13634244/detail.html

This is just so disgusting. I have officially changed position regarding the death penalty. I'm really getting sick of all these violent crimes (go figure). And that goes for minors as well, execute the fuck out of them.

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I was browsing some crime fact sites, and apparently Canada has a more rapes per-capita than the United States (in overall numbers though, the United States has more)

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...pes-per-capita

Obviously, the number of women that would report being raped is probably higher in Western/modern nations. So....
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I have officially changed position regarding the death penalty. I'm really getting sick of all these violent crimes (go figure). And that goes for minors as well, execute the fuck out of them.
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My god how are there such people out there. I do agree do the death penalty will keep these sickos from getting back on the street.
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Old July 6th, 2007, 9:28 PM   #4
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There are very few things that I get really mad over, but this has me furious. I really want these people to die.

And yeah I know...we've discussed the death penalty on here, well, to death.
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Hell those stats are odd. Do you think some of those countries are reporting honestly? My sympathies go to the victims, I hope that they can recover some of their lives for the future.

Now what is the kids stories I wonder, I do not believe that you start out like that; somewhere they have (or some have) done this sort of thing before. They must have serious amounts of hate within themselves.
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That's the one of the worst things I've ever read. What's worse is that 10 fucked up people were a part of it.
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There is something wrong in those peoples' heads.
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And we all know what part should be chopped up first.

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Hell those stats are odd. Do you think some of those countries are reporting honestly?
That's why I think it would only be fair to compare apples to apples so to speak. Western nations to Western nations.
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And we all know what part should be chopped up first.
Indeed. And very slowly at that.

I am pro death penalty, but I think these freaks should just be given a few years at any maximum security prison. Let the regular cons sort them out. Any sentence would be a death sentence. I would almost get locked up just to get a shot at bastards like these.
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When I was a teenager all I did was drive around and hang out with my friends, what the fuck is wrong with kids these days..

I'll tell you what it is, its those fucking liberals, if a kid gets out of line you have to yoke them up by the neck like your supposed to. These kids deserve the worst that the judicial system can throw at them.
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Oh gimmie a break. Sure, it's the Liberal-Boogeyman that makes kids do stuff like this. I know just as many conservatives who are shitty parents as I do liberals.
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Not that I'm taking away from the severity of the crime and how messed up these kids are, but a 14 year old is being tried as an adult? He won't be deemed responsible enough to vote, enlist, own a gun, etc. for another four years. He's still got seven before he's allowed to buy a beer. But he messes up once and suddenly he's got the responsibility of an adult and has to face the consequences as such? images/smilies/wacko.gif I'm all for tough punishment but only as long as it's fair and reasonable.
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Yeah, because gang rape is like getting caught shoplifting. C'mon, this isn't simply "messing up".....
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Anyone like this should be used for scientific experiment.... their crimes maybe dispicable but their punishment should change our lives for the good.. solutions for cancer ect. Killing them does nothing to further Human kind and is not a deterant to such people because they obviousley do not consider the consequences of their actions.
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When I was a teenager all I did was drive around and hang out with my friends, what the fuck is wrong with kids these days..

I'll tell you what it is, its those fucking liberals, if a kid gets out of line you have to yoke them up by the neck like your supposed to. These kids deserve the worst that the judicial system can throw at them.
you sir, are a fucking moron.
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Anyone like this should be used for scientific experiment.... their crimes maybe dispicable but their punishment should change our lives for the good.. solutions for cancer ect. Killing them does nothing to further Human kind and is not a deterant to such people because they obviousley do not consider the consequences of their actions.
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I don't really see the death penalty as a deterrent, but a way to permanently remove the most undesirable elements out of society and the genepool.
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The crime is horrible, but it's not like there's an epidemic of such crimes.

The "what's wrong with kids tofay" bullshit is just tiresome.
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I'll tell you what it is, its those fucking liberals, if a kid gets out of line you have to yoke them up by the neck like your supposed to. These kids deserve the worst that the judicial system can throw at them.
Do you actually comprehend the drivel you ejaculate onto the keyboard?

Damn kids, never should've left the coal mines, I tell ya. Why in my day, they would've gotten the walloping of their lives! I had to walk 15 miles to school every day...images/smilies/wheelchair.gif

I can tell some people are going to play the "they're kids, they didn't know any better" shtick. Doesn't really work for fucking gang rape, though, now does it? They probably didn't realize how badly they've messed up an innocent person's life, and how badly they've messed up their own lives as well. Then again, they should know the latter, once they've been sent to prison like they deserve. I hear those guys don't take too kindly to sex offenders...

Slaps on the wrist are ok, if you're not forcing incest upon someone.
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Yeah, because there are no Violent criminals who were beaten as children.

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Anyone like this should be used for scientific experiment.... their crimes maybe dispicable but their punishment should change our lives for the good.. solutions for cancer ect.
This has a actually occured a few times in Texas, with consent from the prisoner of course. One case I recall was of a man who volunteered to have his body sliced in a few thousand pieces, and they photographed the body after each cut to help map out the human body.

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Killing them does nothing to further Human kind and is not a deterant to such people because they obviousley do not consider the consequences of their actions.
my 2cents anyway
(I'm not disagreeing with you but)...
Putting them in prison doesn't always do it either, at least for career criminals. I have people that are unfortunately part of my family tree that will go commit a small crime just so they can have dental work done or injuries taken care of on tax payers dime. And another that looks at prison as "3 square meals a day and cable tv."

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I can tell some people are going to play the "they're kids, they didn't know any better" shtick. Doesn't really work for fucking gang rape, though, now does it?
My response would be "How 'bout we give these kids some free time around your house for a couple of days, and see how you feel?"

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