FIRST CAR! And it's a good one! - Page 2

freeferrarisdonotexist · May 9th, 2009, 8:51 PM

You got that for 500 euros? Lucky bastard

Looks like a great little car, some of the plasticky bits are off but that's a strong engine and a great gearbox, plus installing toys (hi-def stereo, etc) should be simple.

EDIT: Also, getting a turbo/engine swap on these types of vehicles is fairly simple and best of all old turbos and Cosworth engines can be had fairly cheaply (less than the cost of the car, at least).

Posmo · May 9th, 2009, 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeferrarisdonotexist

You got that for 500 euros? Lucky bastard

Looks like a great little car, some of the plasticky bits are off but that's a strong engine and a great gearbox, plus installing toys (hi-def stereo, etc) should be simple.

EDIT: Also, getting a turbo/engine swap on these types of vehicles is fairly simple and best of all old turbos and Cosworth engines can be had fairly cheaply (less than the cost of the car, at least).

The only plasticky bit, that's wrong in the car is the bumper& the foglight cover, which I don't really care about. I know turbocharging a sierra is not expensive, but I don't really need the power, and have no welding tools, so for now it has to wait.

Nabster · May 9th, 2009, 11:10 PM

I must be missing something.. I don't get all the excitement.

For the price though it doesn't look bad.

Posmo · May 9th, 2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nabster

I must be missing something.. I don't get all the excitement.

For the price though it doesn't look bad.

Well, for the grand price of 500€ you would be normally looking at say, a 1.6 Nissan Sunny with 250k on the clock and rust everywhere.

You have to bear in mind that older rwd cars fetch a premium in Europe, since even in the 70's and 80's a lot of standard family cars were fwd. In here we don't have 500$ camaro's or 800$ eclipses, Finland has I think the third oldest cars in general in Europe. As such, used cars are more expensive in here.

To get some idea about the general prices:
http://www.nettiauto.com/ford/sierra/

See how many injection OHC (not dohc, that head sucks) 2.0 sierras you can find for ~500€, and then look at the state of them. I mean, I could get 300€ for the limited slip diff&rear driveshafts alone, that's more than half the price of the whole car..

Also, it's very rare to find an unmolested, good condition 80's rwd car. For example, it's practically impossible to find an e30 bmw that *hasn't* been owned by a yob.

Might not look too special from behind the windscreen of a v8 Mustang, but it's everything I look for in a first car.

darkshark0159 · May 9th, 2009, 11:38 PM

Wow, nice car! I'm not so sure about the white wheel idea though. I'll play in Photoshop.

EDIT: Here you go. Nice looking with the whites indeed!

Posmo · May 9th, 2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by darkshark0159

I'll play in Photoshop.

Please do, I'd really like to see the results aswell! I've got 5-spoke compomotives on mmy mind, and by painting the current alloys white, I thought I might get somewhere close

EDIT: Wow.. Might have consider powdercoating them ,because that looks awesome

Btw, to further answer Nabsters question, the Sierra has racing pedigree (well the cossie has, but it's a very similar car apart from the engine.) Found this awesome clip:

+ YouTube Video

darkshark0159 · May 9th, 2009, 11:51 PM

I finished my edit just after you posted, so see above ^^

HM1988 · May 10th, 2009, 12:34 AM

great car!
and really good price...
cars outside my country can be really inexpensive

starfox07 · May 10th, 2009, 12:54 AM

Nice. Sell me your headlights

Posmo · May 10th, 2009, 1:03 AM

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Originally Posted by starfox07

Nice. Sell me your headlights

If you look closely, you can see that the passenger side one is cracked, I need to replace it.

Why would you need a set of Sierra headlights in the states anyway?

darkshark0159 · May 10th, 2009, 1:16 AM

Maybe he wants a Merkur Xr4ti.

starfox07 · May 10th, 2009, 2:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkshark0159

Maybe he wants a Merkur Xr4ti.

I have two of them.

Spectre · May 10th, 2009, 4:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starfox07

I have two of them.

Neither of which actually run.

Redliner · May 10th, 2009, 4:58 AM

It´s things like this that make me angry for living in FWDland...

stevanford1 · May 10th, 2009, 5:19 AM

nice. Is it a pinto engine ?

adaptech · May 10th, 2009, 9:08 AM

Great car

It's just the same as mine, except mine is black

You should get a cossie-grill for it. It makes it look much better

Posmo · May 10th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adaptech

Great car

It's just the same as mine, except mine is black

You should get a cossie-grill for it. It makes it look much better

The grille is cracked a bit under the right headlight, so maybe a I will, but for now, I need to fix the front wing&headlight. If you have a Sierra of your own, post pics!

Dr_Grip · May 10th, 2009, 12:19 PM

I had the 1.6 version back in the 90s... it ran on leaded fuel and lots of that, but it ran almost 180 km/h, so i guess the 2.0i should be fast enough without turboing it.
I loved the Sierra in general, the side windows are cut out much lower than in most other cars, so you have kind of a "glass box" feel... add RWD and TONS of space and you really got something!

lip · May 10th, 2009, 12:23 PM

A 23 year old 500 Euro car is a banger, full stop.

But that doesn't matter. We all can relate to the feelings whe had when we bought our first car. The world goes smaller and the possibilities bigger. Good times.

Words of advice from a banger-o-nomics man: (Only to consider when you use this car as your daily drive, otherwise scroll over it).

1. It's your first car, so drive it like it is until it dies and save your cash for the next automotive step during that time.
2. There is a reason why you've bought a cheap car. Don't forget that when you're go shopping for modifications (which you will do anyway...)
3. You're 18, don't try and make it faster. It's fast enough.

But anyway, have fun. Now with added mobility.

Greetings, lip

prizrak · May 10th, 2009, 4:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Posmo

Its a Ford UK Sierra, its the *ahem* SPORT version, so it has the 2.0 injection 8valve ohc engine with around 120 bhp, so no turbo. Limited slip diff as standard.

You can do a straight swap for a cosworth engine, but since the pinto ohc engine (which I have) is great for turbocharging, there is no real need to throw 3000€ on a cossie engine. The Sierra was one of the last rwd uk fords (The Scorpio was the swan song), which is great when you think about the winters we have here

My family had a Scorpio back in Ukraine that car was pwn. Especially when the only tires we could find that fit it were off a Bronco so we ended up jacking up the rear end for that "Dragster" look

May 9th, 2009, 8:51 PM	#21
freeferrarisdonotexist I'm not stupid - I'm British! Joined: Nov 4th, 2008 Last Online: 5:58 AM Location: Somewhere in the South of England, UK. Age: 26 Posts: 993 Car: Restored 1990 Miata, Yamaha YBR125 Rep Power: 22	You got that for 500 euros? Lucky bastard Looks like a great little car, some of the plasticky bits are off but that's a strong engine and a great gearbox, plus installing toys (hi-def stereo, etc) should be simple. EDIT: Also, getting a turbo/engine swap on these types of vehicles is fairly simple and best of all old turbos and Cosworth engines can be had fairly cheaply (less than the cost of the car, at least). __________________ Proud to Defend: Miatas, Motorcycles, Rotaries and Manual Transmissions. "If you ask me to dance, I'll stab you" The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad. "Then there's the pronunciation issue- Jagwarr, Mitsubooshi, Knee-san, Tee-yota, Porsh, Mitsubooshi ..." I listen to: Within Temptation, Amon Tobin, Karl Jenkins, Lux Aeterna (Requiem for a Dream theme), Ludovico Einaudi, Lupe Fiasco, Papa Roach, Gnarls Barkley, J. Ralph (Spy), Elbow (Seldom-Seen Kid), Sigur Ros, Hans Zimmer, Snow Patrol, The White Stripes, Breaking Benjamin, The Black Heart Procession, Burn My Shadow, Craig Armstrong, Corner Stone Cues, Wolf's Rain OST, Lady Sovereign and Lily Allen. Indiv. songs: Teardrop by Massive Attack, Apologize. Last edited by freeferrarisdonotexist; May 9th, 2009 at 8:53 PM.

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Nabster Joined: Oct 15th, 2007 Last Online: 7:04 AM Location: Laramie, Wyoming Age: 21 Posts: 1,620 Car: 1969 Mustang Coupe - 01 Grand Prix GTP Rep Power: 72	I must be missing something.. I don't get all the excitement. For the price though it doesn't look bad. __________________ ███████My car is greener than your car. █████████LegendZ live forever.

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darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 7:13 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,802 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 77	Wow, nice car! I'm not so sure about the white wheel idea though. I'll play in Photoshop. EDIT: Here you go. Nice looking with the whites indeed! __________________ Last edited by darkshark0159; May 9th, 2009 at 11:47 PM.

May 9th, 2009, 11:51 PM	#27
darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 7:13 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,802 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 77	I finished my edit just after you posted, so see above ^^ __________________

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starfox07 Joined: Oct 7th, 2007 Last Online: 5:29 AM Location: Ennis, Tx, USA Age: 20 Posts: 3,318 Car: 1984 Mazda RX7 GSL-SE Rep Power: 77	Nice. Sell me your headlights __________________ -Environmentally Hostile-

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HM1988 Joined: Nov 14th, 2007 Last Online: November 6th, 2009 Location: Brazil Age: 21 Posts: 138 Car: VW Beetle Rep Power: 9	great car! and really good price... cars outside my country can be really inexpensive

May 10th, 2009, 1:16 AM	#31
darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 7:13 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,802 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 77	Maybe he wants a Merkur Xr4ti. __________________

May 10th, 2009, 4:58 AM	#34
Redliner Joined: May 19th, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Brazil - South America Age: 30 Posts: 5,139 Car: Fiat Palio 1.6 16v Rep Power: 104	It´s things like this that make me angry for living in FWDland...

May 10th, 2009, 5:19 AM	#35
stevanford1 Joined: Jan 11th, 2007 Last Online: 3:24 AM Location: Sydney Australia Age: 21 Posts: 2,148 Car: 1988 Nissan Pintara Rep Power: 62	nice. Is it a pinto engine ? __________________ THE FLAT EARTH SOCIETY "Deprogramming the masses since 1547" "Jean Todt's system will never succeed, not even with Michael Schumacher" - Niki Lauda, 1995

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adaptech Joined: Jul 28th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Norway Age: 21 Posts: 104 Car: '86 Ford Sierra iS Rep Power: 12	Great car It's just the same as mine, except mine is black You should get a cossie-grill for it. It makes it look much better __________________ '86 Ford Sierra iS '85 Volvo 740 Turbo Intercooler (Sold) -- '97 Ford Ranger Splash (Sold) -- '89 Ford Sierra 2.0i CL (Wrecked)

May 10th, 2009, 12:19 PM	#38
Dr_Grip Joined: Jul 8th, 2008 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Germany Posts: 1,384 Car: 1979 Opel Kadett (Oliver's Son) Rep Power: 65	I had the 1.6 version back in the 90s... it ran on leaded fuel and lots of that, but it ran almost 180 km/h, so i guess the 2.0i should be fast enough without turboing it. I loved the Sierra in general, the side windows are cut out much lower than in most other cars, so you have kind of a "glass box" feel... add RWD and TONS of space and you really got something! __________________ I got a Rolls-Royce 'Cause it's good for my voice (Mark Bolan/T-Rex)

May 10th, 2009, 12:23 PM	#39
lip Joined: Sep 2nd, 2005 Last Online: 6:19 AM Location: Switzerland Posts: 559 Rep Power: 33	A 23 year old 500 Euro car is a banger, full stop. But that doesn't matter. We all can relate to the feelings whe had when we bought our first car. The world goes smaller and the possibilities bigger. Good times. Words of advice from a banger-o-nomics man: (Only to consider when you use this car as your daily drive, otherwise scroll over it). 1. It's your first car, so drive it like it is until it dies and save your cash for the next automotive step during that time. 2. There is a reason why you've bought a cheap car. Don't forget that when you're go shopping for modifications (which you will do anyway...) 3. You're 18, don't try and make it faster. It's fast enough. But anyway, have fun. Now with added mobility. Greetings, lip Last edited by lip; May 10th, 2009 at 12:24 PM.

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