My Lada 2107 Racecar Project - Page 10

mancs · December 11th, 2006, 1:19 PM

Well, a 4-5 kg battery isnt the most effective for weight distribution images/smilies/biggrin.gif

. I dont have place at the front, cos of the twincarbs images/smilies/smile.gif

. Thats was the main problem images/smilies/biggrin.gif

.

mancs · December 18th, 2006, 10:47 PM

Found some videos on youtube, I'l post it here, since not everybody would be interrested images/smilies/smile.gif

.

The two best slalom racers in hungary (with lada). They do rallying as well. So check it out if you have time images/smilies/wink.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-tZi20dxG0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CewnIfzK0zA

Enjoy.

Cobol74 · December 18th, 2006, 10:58 PM

Bloody hell, you chaps can make Ladas do that? Great vids, thanx for sharing.

mancs · January 19th, 2007, 10:35 PM

This is why you should never trust any expert that he had measured the clearence between the flywheel and the clutch...

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1461/kupge0.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1065/csavpz0.jpg

The bolts loosent up, and the flywheel made strange sounds, but I stopped the engine immediatly, so hopefully nothing bad happend... images/smilies/sad.gif

Btw, I wanted to know what my cars putting out, so I asked my friend to help me test the car. His car is a 2 liter VTEC Honda Prelude (~150 hp), and we made a little "drag race". And I was surprised! I was keeping up with him untill the end of third gear! His car is ~1100 kg, mine is much less, so obviously the engine isnt puting out 150 hp images/smilies/smile.gif

But I'm satisfied images/smilies/smile.gif

Cobol74 · January 20th, 2007, 12:00 AM

If that happened to my clutch I would be an unhappy bunny indeed. Hope it fixes OK.

mancs · January 20th, 2007, 9:56 PM

Today we measured the clutch plate, and it needs fixing, but other than that, everything is ok, so I'm a happy bunny images/smilies/lol.gif

.

Btw forgot to show you what I got:

I hear you ask: whats this? Well, Its a computer guided ignition system images/smilies/wink.gif

. The ignition in my car is normal with springs that set the timing. Now, this can go to the trashcan images/smilies/smile.gif

With this, I can draw my own ignition map.

I'm also planing to get a lambda sensor, cos setting these carbs at an expert costs a LOT! So instead I'l buy a sensor, and a monitor, and I can set the thing my self images/smilies/smile.gif

. I need a carburator syncroniser as well, but that is expensive images/smilies/sad.gif

Cheapest I found was 55 pounds images/smilies/sad.gif

.

Cobol74 · January 21st, 2007, 2:38 AM

This technology is worthy of any car IMHO, draw your own ignition map - wonderful. You've done a great job so far, keep up the good work. Remember a vid of your car going around the Ring would be so appreciated, when you think that you'r ready of course. Actually, any track time on vid would be good, do not forget us.

bone · January 21st, 2007, 9:45 AM

how weird it sounds to have electronics on a lada engine images/smilies/biggrin.gif

nice buy

and you can always make a synchro yourself, not that hard (but not that good either)

one of my friends bought one online not that long ago, for not that much money. i'll ask him where and post here

'CruiserMan · January 21st, 2007, 10:53 AM

That's really quite scary, and impressive. I'm kinda sorry that we never got many Ladas over here... That's an amazing car, keep at it!

bone · January 21st, 2007, 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bone

one of my friends bought one online not that long ago, for not that much money. i'll ask him where and post here

nevermind, he payed 80€ for it

snq · January 21st, 2007, 7:55 PM

Hope the flywheel and clutch are ok images/smilies/smile.gif

That ignition system looks nice, small and easy! How much did it cost if you don't mind me asking?

mancs · January 22nd, 2007, 12:38 PM

It costed 50-50 euro. I think its not to expensive, and its a very usefull tool images/smilies/smile.gif

.

Bone, yep images/smilies/sad.gif

I did one, with a simple vacuummeter, but it needs smoothing, and I dont know how to do that images/smilies/sad.gif

. Well, I hope I can get one somewhere.

snq · January 22nd, 2007, 2:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mancs

It costed 50-50 euro. I think its not to expensive, and its a very usefull tool images/smilies/smile.gif

That's cheap! It seems it's only available in Hungary tho images/smilies/sad.gif

Well it's not like I don't have enough stuff to think about already so I'll worry about it later images/smilies/wink.gif

mancs · January 22nd, 2007, 2:11 PM

^ Hehe

. The only problem is that the program is in hungarian images/smilies/sad.gif

.

pfrocker · January 23rd, 2007, 9:00 AM

so hey when will we see pics of the lada with those red rims?

snq · January 23rd, 2007, 6:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mancs

^ Hehe

. The only problem is that the program is in hungarian images/smilies/sad.gif

.

That's not much of a problem I think images/smilies/smile.gif

As long as someone can explain what the buttons do and what the text means it'll be fine images/smilies/wink.gif

mancs · February 5th, 2007, 7:25 PM

Sooo... My carb was not set up perfectly, witch is not a surprise images/smilies/smile.gif

. If somebody has a carb like this (Weber DCOE; Dellorto DHLA) than he knows what I mean. A guy would set it up for me for around ~ 100 euro, so I sad no thanks. But I bought a book...

http://images.auctionworks.com/hi/33/33493/hw-bld_pwr-tune-wbr_dlrt-01.jpg

So, now I can learn the art of tuning a carb images/smilies/smile.gif

. Lets hope the best.

Beni · February 6th, 2007, 12:18 PM

Do you have the synchro-meters (can't think of the english word)?

I'm currently rebuilding mine (downdraught ones), so please show us your progress!

mancs · February 6th, 2007, 2:11 PM

^ Not yet, but I finded a "cheap" one. Its around 25 pound. NOBODY has got synchrometer here... images/smilies/wacko.gif

. So I need to buy it:

http://i18.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/4a/b2/12_1_b.JPG

Beni What carb do you have? Dellorto's?

Beni · February 6th, 2007, 8:55 PM

no, they are Webers, 36 DCNF. I don't know of anyone who uses Dellortos, there might not be a suitable manifold and you can't use sidedraughts either without modifying the body.

that meter is for only one carb at a time, right?

I was thinking about something like this for 80€ (would share them with a friend):

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4566/10034115910by2.jpg

Oh, inspired by you, I bought this book (not here yet):

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8135/243124xi0.jpg

December 11th, 2006, 1:19 PM	#181
mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	Well, a 4-5 kg battery isnt the most effective for weight distribution . I dont have place at the front, cos of the twincarbs . Thats was the main problem . __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car

December 18th, 2006, 10:47 PM	#182
mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	Found some videos on youtube, I'l post it here, since not everybody would be interrested . The two best slalom racers in hungary (with lada). They do rallying as well. So check it out if you have time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-tZi20dxG0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CewnIfzK0zA Enjoy. __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car

December 18th, 2006, 10:58 PM	#183
Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 3:20 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 8,597 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 126	Bloody hell, you chaps can make Ladas do that? Great vids, thanx for sharing. __________________ Lotus 7 Registration Mark = KAR120C : Engine Number = 461034 TZ Ross Brawn genius or what?

January 19th, 2007, 10:35 PM	#184
mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	This is why you should never trust any expert that he had measured the clearence between the flywheel and the clutch... The bolts loosent up, and the flywheel made strange sounds, but I stopped the engine immediatly, so hopefully nothing bad happend... Btw, I wanted to know what my cars putting out, so I asked my friend to help me test the car. His car is a 2 liter VTEC Honda Prelude (~150 hp), and we made a little "drag race". And I was surprised! I was keeping up with him untill the end of third gear! His car is ~1100 kg, mine is much less, so obviously the engine isnt puting out 150 hp But I'm satisfied __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car Last edited by mancs; January 19th, 2007 at 10:40 PM.

January 20th, 2007, 12:00 AM	#185
Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 3:20 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 8,597 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 126	If that happened to my clutch I would be an unhappy bunny indeed. Hope it fixes OK. __________________ Lotus 7 Registration Mark = KAR120C : Engine Number = 461034 TZ Ross Brawn genius or what?

January 20th, 2007, 9:56 PM	#186
mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	Today we measured the clutch plate, and it needs fixing, but other than that, everything is ok, so I'm a happy bunny . Btw forgot to show you what I got: I hear you ask: whats this? Well, Its a computer guided ignition system . The ignition in my car is normal with springs that set the timing. Now, this can go to the trashcan With this, I can draw my own ignition map. I'm also planing to get a lambda sensor, cos setting these carbs at an expert costs a LOT! So instead I'l buy a sensor, and a monitor, and I can set the thing my self . I need a carburator syncroniser as well, but that is expensive Cheapest I found was 55 pounds . __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car

January 21st, 2007, 2:38 AM	#187
Cobol74 Joined: Mar 21st, 2006 Last Online: 3:20 AM Location: Southampton Posts: 8,597 Car: Vauxhall Zafira 1.9 TDI Slush box. Rep Power: 126	This technology is worthy of any car IMHO, draw your own ignition map - wonderful. You've done a great job so far, keep up the good work. Remember a vid of your car going around the Ring would be so appreciated, when you think that you'r ready of course. Actually, any track time on vid would be good, do not forget us. __________________ Lotus 7 Registration Mark = KAR120C : Engine Number = 461034 TZ Ross Brawn genius or what?

January 21st, 2007, 9:45 AM	#188
bone "bangle for president" Joined: Jan 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: belgium!! Age: 25 Posts: 6,506 Car: yamaha banshee (and an opel astra from work) Rep Power: 40	how weird it sounds to have electronics on a lada engine nice buy and you can always make a synchro yourself, not that hard (but not that good either) one of my friends bought one online not that long ago, for not that much money. i'll ask him where and post here Last edited by bone; January 21st, 2007 at 10:14 AM.

January 21st, 2007, 10:53 AM	#189
'CruiserMan Joined: Dec 8th, 2006 Last Online: April 8th, 2009 Location: Wollongong, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 341 Car: Toyota 80 Series Landcruiser 4.2 diesel LFS Status: Rep Power: 13	That's really quite scary, and impressive. I'm kinda sorry that we never got many Ladas over here... That's an amazing car, keep at it!

January 21st, 2007, 7:55 PM	#191
snq Joined: Dec 17th, 2004 Last Online: November 16th, 2009 Location: Sweden / About 50 km from the arctic circle Age: 31 Posts: 330 Car: 1966 Chevelle 454 Rep Power: 22	Hope the flywheel and clutch are ok That ignition system looks nice, small and easy! How much did it cost if you don't mind me asking? __________________ Too many cars..

January 22nd, 2007, 12:38 PM	#192
mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	It costed 50-50 euro. I think its not to expensive, and its a very usefull tool . Bone, yep I did one, with a simple vacuummeter, but it needs smoothing, and I dont know how to do that . Well, I hope I can get one somewhere. __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car

January 22nd, 2007, 2:11 PM	#194
mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	^ Hehe . The only problem is that the program is in hungarian . __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car

January 23rd, 2007, 9:00 AM	#195
pfrocker Joined: Jan 22nd, 2006 Last Online: 2:40 AM Location: San Francisco, California, USA Age: 21 Posts: 2,137 Rep Power: 45	so hey when will we see pics of the lada with those red rims? __________________ "The following program contains British accents, if you don't understand what the bloody hell we are talking about please turn on your closed captioning." -BBC America Top Gear Introduction narrated by John Oliver

February 5th, 2007, 7:25 PM	#197
mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	Sooo... My carb was not set up perfectly, witch is not a surprise . If somebody has a carb like this (Weber DCOE; Dellorto DHLA) than he knows what I mean. A guy would set it up for me for around ~ 100 euro, so I sad no thanks. But I bought a book... So, now I can learn the art of tuning a carb . Lets hope the best. __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car

February 6th, 2007, 12:18 PM	#198
Beni Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: frankfurt am main Age: 28 Posts: 518 Car: '79 X1/9 '85 E28 '96 Fiat 126 Rep Power: 28	Do you have the synchro-meters (can't think of the english word)? I'm currently rebuilding mine (downdraught ones), so please show us your progress!

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mancs Joined: Feb 26th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: Hungary Age: 22 Posts: 1,461 Car: Lada 2107 (only race), VW Golf MKII LFS Status: Rep Power: 22	^ Not yet, but I finded a "cheap" one. Its around 25 pound. NOBODY has got synchrometer here... . So I need to buy it: Beni What carb do you have? Dellorto's? __________________ Oversteer is when the passenger is scared, Understeer is when the driver is scared. Xprovid.hu My Project Car

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Beni Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: November 20th, 2009 Location: frankfurt am main Age: 28 Posts: 518 Car: '79 X1/9 '85 E28 '96 Fiat 126 Rep Power: 28	no, they are Webers, 36 DCNF. I don't know of anyone who uses Dellortos, there might not be a suitable manifold and you can't use sidedraughts either without modifying the body. that meter is for only one carb at a time, right? I was thinking about something like this for 80€ (would share them with a friend): Oh, inspired by you, I bought this book (not here yet): Last edited by Beni; February 6th, 2007 at 8:57 PM.

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