My 'new' 1967 Triumph Herald 1200 - Page 2

Heathrow · August 31st, 2009, 7:29 PM

Bad luck with the engine going bang, still see this as an opportunity to rebuild to your own standard and really “know” what’s in the engine.
The good news is the Herald has excellent access under the bonnet, so easy to work with.

Your car is in lovely condition, so it’s got to be worth spending on a complete engine rebuild. images/smilies/cool.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr_Grip

I am in a bit of a terminology mess here: What do you mean by "big end"? What broke? As the owner of a classic car that has not run a mile in over twelve months i feel with you very much...

Crankshaft has three main bearings and four "big end" bearings on a Herald. (I think)
“Big end” connects to the con-rod (connecting rod) at the top of which is the “little end” which hold the gudgen pin through the piston.
They "break" when the bearing wears out to such an extent that oil pressure is lost and therefore lubrication can no longer keep the moving surfaces cool.
(Hence the tractor sounds = bad! images/smilies/sad.gif

)

I’ve always thought the terminology for all the oily bits in the engine are a bit strange in UK english. images/smilies/smile.gif

Aston Martin · August 31st, 2009, 7:50 PM

"Hello puffin."

Cobol74 · August 31st, 2009, 8:59 PM

There are many more 13/60s than 1200s left. And consequently Haynes Manuals.

HatePersonified · August 31st, 2009, 9:13 PM

Needs an LS1
images/smilies/biggrin.gif

argatoga · August 31st, 2009, 9:16 PM

You can now be rest assured that it is a proper Triumph images/smilies/smile.gif

.

I would ditch the engine and see about replacing it with a Suzuki motor or a Toyota 4A.

Both will fit in my MG. Not sure about your car.

Cowboy · August 31st, 2009, 9:21 PM

LOVELY car! any girl driving a car like that i'm in love with on the spot , brilliant ! images/smilies/tongue.gif

sorry to hear about your big end.......no wait....that didn't sound right.....sure you'l get it spinning like a kitten again soon images/smilies/wink.gif

Wyvern · September 1st, 2009, 2:25 AM

The encouragement is much appreciated, as are the suggestions (unless they involve turning it into a yacht) images/smilies/smile.gif

I've discovered there's a Triumph specialist about 10 miles from here, which is very handy, so hopefully I'll have it back on the road soon.

Dr_Grip, I hope your car gets running for you soon too!

And Cowboy, thanks for giving me a giggle - 'big end' always sounds a bit like innuendo to me, though people have been rude about my 'big end' for years images/smilies/wink.gif

Steve Levin · September 1st, 2009, 4:43 AM

Oh my...a woman that bought a Herald...

...will you marry me? images/smilies/smile.gif

Steve

Cowboy · September 1st, 2009, 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Levin

Oh my...a woman that bought a Herald...

...will you marry me? images/smilies/smile.gif

Steve

hey! I saw her first! images/smilies/wink.gif

*Wedges Steve in locker* images/smilies/cool.gif

Dr_Grip · September 1st, 2009, 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Levin

Oh my...a woman that bought a Herald...

...will you marry me? images/smilies/smile.gif

Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy

hey! I saw her first! images/smilies/wink.gif

*Wedges Steve in locker* images/smilies/cool.gif

You two behave like Madonna and Angelina Jolie in an malawian orphanage!

Wyvern · September 1st, 2009, 11:00 PM

Now boys... I know it's just my car you're after really... images/smilies/lol.gif

Spoke to the garage this morning - the parts are extremely reasonable. I'll be able to get an idea about timescales and labour costs in the morning. Fingers crossed we'll soon be on the road. It's just infuriating that the weather was perfect yesterday for going topless...

shad_68 · September 1st, 2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyvern

the weather was perfect yesterday for going topless...

images/smilies/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif

Oh wait, I think you're still talking about the car... nervermind then! images/smilies/tongue.gif

captain_70s · September 1st, 2009, 11:34 PM

What a nice car, I love Heralds. I wanted one as a 1st car until fairly recently when I figured I'd get a Triumph 1300fwd/Toledo instead. A bit more sensible for my long, all weather commute.

Parts are pretty easy to find for Heralds and cheap too, 1300 parts are more common as that engine was bigger but I like the little 1200, its a bit more economial anyway. Besides a Herald isn't about speed, its about 55mph down a country lane on a sunny day with the roof down. images/smilies/wink.gif

Don't worry about it breaking down either, classic cars always do that to show a new owner who is boss. You have to make sure it knows you are in charge though!
Also odd it doesn't have mirrors, most have them by now, although they were a dealer option when new. You can get little ones that clip on the quaterlight so you don't have to drill holes anywhere too. images/smilies/smile.gif

(I really have to mention that a girl with a Herald has always been a dream of mine. There is nothing more appealing than a nice girl who like classic motors as much as I do!) images/smilies/lol.gif

Wyvern · September 1st, 2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain_70s

What a nice car, I love Heralds. I wanted one as a 1st car until fairly recently when I figured I'd get a Triumph 1300fwd/Toledo instead. A bit more sensible for my long, all weather commute.

Good call! I know the Herald isn't the most practical choice, especially a convertible, but I think I will enjoy it. Always did like the Toledo though, used to see a lot of them (and the Dolomite that followed it) when I was a kid about a million years ago images/smilies/smile.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain_70s

Besides a Herald isn't about speed, its about 55mph down a country lane on a sunny day with the roof down. images/smilies/wink.gif

THAT. In one sentence, why I bought my car images/smilies/smile.gif

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain_70s

Also odd it doesn't have mirrors, most have them by now, although they were a dealer option when new. You can get little ones that clip on the quaterlight so you don't have to drill holes anywhere too. images/smilies/smile.gif

I've seen those and I'm tempted, but surely you can't close the window if you're using them? Great in the summer with the top and the windows down, but now the weather's threatening to be horrible it might not work as well...

Viper007Bond · September 1st, 2009, 11:52 PM

Sweet. "I" have a 1967 Triumph too! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

(It's technically my dad's, but I'll be stealing it at some point. And yes, I know I don't have a license, but I am already able to drive it basically, so sush. images/smilies/tongue.gif

)

captain_70s · September 1st, 2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyvern

I've seen those and I'm tempted, but surely you can't close the window if you're using them? Great in the summer with the top and the windows down, but now the weather's threatening to be horrible it might not work as well...

Hmm not sure, I don't think they are intrusive but I've not seen them up close...
I'd suggest joining the Club Triumph forum if you haven't already and ask there, they have a section for Heralds and will no doubt be able to help youu with pretty much anything. images/smilies/wink.gif

stevanford1 · September 3rd, 2009, 6:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Sweet. "I" have a 1967 Triumph too! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

(It's technically my dad's, but I'll be stealing it at some point. And yes, I know I don't have a license, but I am already able to drive it basically, so sush. images/smilies/tongue.gif

)

Your 25 with no license ? images/smilies/wacko.gif

argatoga · September 3rd, 2009, 7:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper007Bond

Sweet. "I" have a 1967 Triumph too! images/smilies/biggrin.gif

(It's technically my dad's, but I'll be stealing it at some point. And yes, I know I don't have a license, but I am already able to drive it basically, so sush. images/smilies/tongue.gif

)

What model?

Wyvern · September 3rd, 2009, 8:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevanford1

Your 25 with no license ? images/smilies/wacko.gif

It happens...

For lots and lots of different reasons, I'm 36 and only on the verge of getting mine - test next month, eek - now. According to my instructor I've got a real flair for it, so I do wish I'd been able to do it when I was younger, before my reactions started slowing down. Ah, never mind.

Quote:

Originally Posted by argatoga

What model?

What he said images/smilies/smile.gif

waydee · September 3rd, 2009, 4:02 PM

Lovely looking Herald, shame about the motor but she'll be back up and running in no time.

Makes me wish I'd got an MGB when I had the chance, for all the trouble these little British cars bring it's the sort of trouble I think I want - easy to work on, cheap parts, men with epic facial hair to help you out etc.

One day images/smilies/tongue.gif

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August 31st, 2009, 9:21 PM	#26
Cowboy Joined: Mar 31st, 2009 Last Online: 2:26 PM Location: Belgium Posts: 541 Car: Dodge Ram Rep Power: 16	LOVELY car! any girl driving a car like that i'm in love with on the spot , brilliant ! sorry to hear about your big end.......no wait....that didn't sound right.....sure you'l get it spinning like a kitten again soon

September 1st, 2009, 2:25 AM	#27
Wyvern Not A Dude Joined: Oct 4th, 2008 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Loughton, Essex Age: 36 Posts: 404 Car: Triumph Herald 1200, not quite as broken as it was Rep Power: 173	The encouragement is much appreciated, as are the suggestions (unless they involve turning it into a yacht) I've discovered there's a Triumph specialist about 10 miles from here, which is very handy, so hopefully I'll have it back on the road soon. Dr_Grip, I hope your car gets running for you soon too! And Cowboy, thanks for giving me a giggle - 'big end' always sounds a bit like innuendo to me, though people have been rude about my 'big end' for years

August 31st, 2009, 9:13 PM	#24
HatePersonified Joined: Apr 3rd, 2009 Last Online: 8:39 AM Posts: 216 Rep Power: 14	Needs an LS1

September 1st, 2009, 4:43 AM	#28
Steve Levin Master of Disaster Joined: Jun 7th, 2006 Last Online: 5:16 AM Location: Sunnyvale, California Posts: 1,077 Car: Spec Racer Ford! Rep Power: 52	Oh my...a woman that bought a Herald... ...will you marry me? Steve

September 1st, 2009, 11:00 PM	#31
Wyvern Not A Dude Joined: Oct 4th, 2008 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Loughton, Essex Age: 36 Posts: 404 Car: Triumph Herald 1200, not quite as broken as it was Rep Power: 173	Now boys... I know it's just my car you're after really... Spoke to the garage this morning - the parts are extremely reasonable. I'll be able to get an idea about timescales and labour costs in the morning. Fingers crossed we'll soon be on the road. It's just infuriating that the weather was perfect yesterday for going topless...

September 1st, 2009, 11:34 PM	#33
captain_70s Joined: Aug 6th, 2008 Last Online: 2:26 AM Location: Scotland Age: 17 Posts: 459 Car: Nothing... yet Rep Power: 25	What a nice car, I love Heralds. I wanted one as a 1st car until fairly recently when I figured I'd get a Triumph 1300fwd/Toledo instead. A bit more sensible for my long, all weather commute. Parts are pretty easy to find for Heralds and cheap too, 1300 parts are more common as that engine was bigger but I like the little 1200, its a bit more economial anyway. Besides a Herald isn't about speed, its about 55mph down a country lane on a sunny day with the roof down. Don't worry about it breaking down either, classic cars always do that to show a new owner who is boss. You have to make sure it knows you are in charge though! Also odd it doesn't have mirrors, most have them by now, although they were a dealer option when new. You can get little ones that clip on the quaterlight so you don't have to drill holes anywhere too. (I really have to mention that a girl with a Herald has always been a dream of mine. There is nothing more appealing than a nice girl who like classic motors as much as I do!) __________________

September 1st, 2009, 11:52 PM	#35
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: 1:13 PM Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 25 Posts: 22,277 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 296	Sweet. "I" have a 1967 Triumph too! (It's technically my dad's, but I'll be stealing it at some point. And yes, I know I don't have a license, but I am already able to drive it basically, so sush. ) __________________ There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005 Last edited by Viper007Bond; September 1st, 2009 at 11:54 PM.

September 3rd, 2009, 4:02 PM	#40
waydee Joined: Jul 28th, 2008 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Scotland Posts: 229 Rep Power: 20	Lovely looking Herald, shame about the motor but she'll be back up and running in no time. Makes me wish I'd got an MGB when I had the chance, for all the trouble these little British cars bring it's the sort of trouble I think I want - easy to work on, cheap parts, men with epic facial hair to help you out etc. One day

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