My replacement for the Alero...

Mischief007 · May 9th, 2008, 12:13 AM

2004 Grand Prix GTP Comp G.

I love this thing. Yes it is FWD and auto but it is very comfy. I absolutely love it. If you don't know what Comp G is, look it up. Pretty much top of the line GTP. I got the original window sticker as well and it cost $41,000 CDN when new in 2004.

bartboy9891 · May 9th, 2008, 12:21 AM

Wasn't this your mom's car? I thought your mom bought a Grand Prix a little while ago.

prizrak · May 9th, 2008, 12:26 AM

That's a REALLY nice looking ride. The interior looks so much nicer than I would expect from an American car. You should convert it to RWD and put a V8 in there

Mischief007 · May 9th, 2008, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartboy9891

Wasn't this your mom's car? I thought your mom bought a Grand Prix a little while ago.

She did. She still has hers. Hers was just a base Grand Prix and it was a 2006. I went with something that had a little more power and a lot more loaded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by prizrak

That's a REALLY nice looking ride. The interior looks so much nicer than I would expect from an American car. You should convert it to RWD and put a V8 in there

There's one floating around somewhere. I believe it has already been done. Lots of money though.

Found a picture after I got the car tinted:

And this is what it sounds like in stock form. The classic Grand Prix exhaust note. This is only up to 4000 rpm. I'm still contemplating what to do with the exhaust; mufflers only, cat-back, or full replacement 3" exhaust including the downpipe and headers.

JCE · May 9th, 2008, 12:39 AM

Do the full replacement 3" with some Borla tips. Also, please paint that grille the body color...its just so hideous. Otherwise I like Grand Prix's. Nice ride.

SoxXpupPeT · May 9th, 2008, 1:21 AM

Nice Grand Prix! i always had a soft spot for them and that one is in very good shape and sounds very good. with the exhaust do the Entire thing. the stock manifolds are probably the biggest power robber. go from there back.. all the way back!

http://www.lmperformance.com/5010/11.html

get those and keep a single 3" through a high flow cat a nice straight pipe and then probably a magnaflow muffler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oo7otSVAJY

something like that. you could even pull off a single 3" out the back. i think itd look good. and youd be picking up some good ponies too!

if i wasnt so set on doing true duels on my camaro id stick with probably a single 3" out the back.. i dont particularly like the 2 off of one. but i think thats just me. oh and a smaller supercharger pulley!

Mischief007 · May 9th, 2008, 1:32 AM

Full 3" won't be cheap but I do have to find something that is emission legal since Canada does do emission testing. But then again a ZZP catback and downpipe is just a little bit more expensive than 2 magnaflow mufflers with tips. Go figure. If anything, the ZZP catback and ZZP downpipe is a very viable option.

The front grills will be either replaced or I'll get the SPO Nickel plated grills from GM.

The pulley, no (for now maybe). There's a lot of prep work before dropping to a smaller pulley. Intake and exhaust are one, colder plugs, new wires, 180 degree thermostat, and something else that I can't remember. Once that is done, then I can go down to a smaller pulley. I've been reading up on these things for the past 3 weeks. These cars have a lot of potential. The downside is the FWD layout.

SoxXpupPeT · May 9th, 2008, 2:02 AM

yeah the FWD does suck especially if you wanna do a cam. i saw this forum where this guy did a cam on his grand prix awhile ago. had to remove pretty much everything off the front but he did it and it was sweet! so if you do headers in Canada you wont be emissions legal ? thats gay balls :\ but exhaust is the first mod for performance so at least your mind if on the right track

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/M...prix_97176.htm

your goal ?

Punisher Bass · May 9th, 2008, 3:20 AM

Supercharged 3800... I approve! Join the club, we need more members. http://forums.finalgear.com/groups/3800-v6-owners-club/.

gtrietsc · May 9th, 2008, 3:23 PM

Make sure you get the recall done. Dont want to become a statistic!

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/r...due-to-engine/

Wizegui · May 9th, 2008, 3:27 PM

Punisher Bass approves..... Nice ride. Any more vids of you revving the engine?? I've never really had a chance to hear what a OHV V6 sounds like.

Punisher Bass · May 9th, 2008, 3:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrietsc

Make sure you get the recall done. Dont want to become a statistic!

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/r...due-to-engine/

That only goes up to 2003.

Maybe I should get some video of my car revving as well.

gtrietsc · May 9th, 2008, 6:18 PM

Oh, my bad. I thought he had a 2002, I see now its an 04.

Mischief007 · May 10th, 2008, 4:12 AM

The Gen 3 doesn't have that problem.

I did go to the track. My buddy said the car is quiet so the WizAired CAI and exhaust are definitely first things I want to do.

I did go to the track and ran a 14.7741 @ 93.53. The tapshift is definitely a plus at the track.

Fastest car today was a mid 10 second car. Fastest bike was 9.90.

I'd love to be in the 13s but low 14s would be good for me for now. One of the clubs setup a track day at Duttonville, Ontario. I was too late to get on it or I would go to the circuit track as well.

SoxXpupPeT · May 10th, 2008, 4:34 AM

damn that aint bad at all. after an exhaust CAI tune blah blah im sure youll be in the 13's no problem

Night_Hawk · May 10th, 2008, 4:37 AM

Excellent car, It's identical to another one that drives around my town

also another car that looks better in real life vs pictures

Mischief007 · May 10th, 2008, 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT

damn that aint bad at all. after an exhaust CAI tune blah blah im sure youll be in the 13's no problem

, not bad for a 3500 lbs family sedan. I was very impressed. Ran against an Acura 3.2 CL Type-S a few times. Guy knew how to shift. He ran a 14.5 all night.

Wizegui · May 10th, 2008, 10:05 PM

How much was this model compared to the GXP?? Having one of those would seriously be one heck of an experience

Mischief007 · May 11th, 2008, 1:41 AM

If I wanted a GXP (Couldn't find one at the time I was looking) it probably would be around 4 to 5k more than the cost of my car these days.

These cars don't really have torque steer. Hard to believe, my Alero had worse torque steer than the Grand Prix. The Grand Prix will track pretty straight with minimal steering input to compensate for torque steer. It is actually quite well behaved.

SoxXpupPeT · May 11th, 2008, 8:02 AM

ahh lucky on the torque steer part. especially when putting down the power that engine does. i have an 87' lesebre with the 3800. good engine. just wish it ran 100% it hasnt run right for years. its been sitting for such a long time its a shame

but that car had slight torque steer when pushing it to its limits

May 9th, 2008, 12:13 AM	#1
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 4,525 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 29	My replacement for the Alero... 2004 Grand Prix GTP Comp G. I love this thing. Yes it is FWD and auto but it is very comfy. I absolutely love it. If you don't know what Comp G is, look it up. Pretty much top of the line GTP. I got the original window sticker as well and it cost $41,000 CDN when new in 2004. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 71,464 km - 44,406 miles 14.4101 @ 94.67 mph Last edited by Mischief007; September 30th, 2008 at 12:52 AM.

May 9th, 2008, 12:21 AM	#2
bartboy9891 I'm not Moe Joined: Dec 1st, 2004 Last Online: November 17th, 2009 Location: University of Michigan Age: 20 Posts: 8,810 Car: 1996 Grand Am SE sedan, and dad's 2006 S60 2.5T Rep Power: 79	Wasn't this your mom's car? I thought your mom bought a Grand Prix a little while ago. __________________

May 9th, 2008, 12:39 AM	#5
JCE Previously Known As JCE3000GT Joined: Apr 12th, 2005 Last Online: November 19th, 2009 Location: Plano, TX Age: 30 Posts: 696 Car: '90 Chevy Camaro RS V8 / '97 Chrysler T&C LXi V6 Rep Power: 25	Do the full replacement 3" with some Borla tips. Also, please paint that grille the body color...its just so hideous. Otherwise I like Grand Prix's. Nice ride. __________________ My eBay Game Auctions

May 9th, 2008, 1:21 AM	#6
SoxXpupPeT Joined: Dec 24th, 2005 Last Online: September 11th, 2009 Location: Yonkers, NY Posts: 998 Car: 82' Impala, 94' Z28 Rep Power: 21	Nice Grand Prix! i always had a soft spot for them and that one is in very good shape and sounds very good. with the exhaust do the Entire thing. the stock manifolds are probably the biggest power robber. go from there back.. all the way back! http://www.lmperformance.com/5010/11.html get those and keep a single 3" through a high flow cat a nice straight pipe and then probably a magnaflow muffler. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oo7otSVAJY something like that. you could even pull off a single 3" out the back. i think itd look good. and youd be picking up some good ponies too! if i wasnt so set on doing true duels on my camaro id stick with probably a single 3" out the back.. i dont particularly like the 2 off of one. but i think thats just me. oh and a smaller supercharger pulley! __________________ Last edited by SoxXpupPeT; May 9th, 2008 at 1:24 AM.

May 9th, 2008, 1:32 AM	#7
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 4,525 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 29	Full 3" won't be cheap but I do have to find something that is emission legal since Canada does do emission testing. But then again a ZZP catback and downpipe is just a little bit more expensive than 2 magnaflow mufflers with tips. Go figure. If anything, the ZZP catback and ZZP downpipe is a very viable option. The front grills will be either replaced or I'll get the SPO Nickel plated grills from GM. The pulley, no (for now maybe). There's a lot of prep work before dropping to a smaller pulley. Intake and exhaust are one, colder plugs, new wires, 180 degree thermostat, and something else that I can't remember. Once that is done, then I can go down to a smaller pulley. I've been reading up on these things for the past 3 weeks. These cars have a lot of potential. The downside is the FWD layout. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 71,464 km - 44,406 miles 14.4101 @ 94.67 mph

May 9th, 2008, 12:26 AM	#3
prizrak Joined: Apr 2nd, 2007 Last Online: 3:58 PM Location: Brooklyn, NY Age: 26 Posts: 3,022 Car: Audi A4 1.8T Rep Power: 39	That's a REALLY nice looking ride. The interior looks so much nicer than I would expect from an American car. You should convert it to RWD and put a V8 in there

May 9th, 2008, 2:02 AM	#8
SoxXpupPeT Joined: Dec 24th, 2005 Last Online: September 11th, 2009 Location: Yonkers, NY Posts: 998 Car: 82' Impala, 94' Z28 Rep Power: 21	yeah the FWD does suck especially if you wanna do a cam. i saw this forum where this guy did a cam on his grand prix awhile ago. had to remove pretty much everything off the front but he did it and it was sweet! so if you do headers in Canada you wont be emissions legal ? thats gay balls :\ but exhaust is the first mod for performance so at least your mind if on the right track http://videos.streetfire.net/video/M...prix_97176.htm your goal ? __________________

May 9th, 2008, 3:20 AM	#9
Punisher Bass He who drives a Buick Joined: Feb 25th, 2007 Last Online: 3:21 PM Location: St Louis, MO Age: 25 Posts: 1,676 Car: 98 Buick Park Avenue Ultra Rep Power: 64	Supercharged 3800... I approve! Join the club, we need more members. http://forums.finalgear.com/groups/3800-v6-owners-club/. __________________ The Mighty Buick Of Destruction

May 9th, 2008, 3:23 PM	#10
gtrietsc Joined: Dec 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Lewisville, TX USA Age: 32 Posts: 1,241 Car: '06 BMW X3, '07 Ford F-150 FX4 Rep Power: 38	Make sure you get the recall done. Dont want to become a statistic! http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/r...due-to-engine/ __________________

May 9th, 2008, 3:27 PM	#11
Wizegui Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 8:11 AM Location: Richmond, BC Age: 18 Posts: 2,054 Car: 93 Toyota Tercel LFS Status: Rep Power: 31	Punisher Bass approves..... Nice ride. Any more vids of you revving the engine?? I've never really had a chance to hear what a OHV V6 sounds like. __________________ My 1993 Lexus IS 150... If you actually googled this up, then I've got some bad news for you...

May 9th, 2008, 6:18 PM	#13
gtrietsc Joined: Dec 14th, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Lewisville, TX USA Age: 32 Posts: 1,241 Car: '06 BMW X3, '07 Ford F-150 FX4 Rep Power: 38	Oh, my bad. I thought he had a 2002, I see now its an 04. __________________

May 10th, 2008, 4:12 AM	#14
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 4,525 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 29	The Gen 3 doesn't have that problem. I did go to the track. My buddy said the car is quiet so the WizAired CAI and exhaust are definitely first things I want to do. I did go to the track and ran a 14.7741 @ 93.53. The tapshift is definitely a plus at the track. Fastest car today was a mid 10 second car. Fastest bike was 9.90. I'd love to be in the 13s but low 14s would be good for me for now. One of the clubs setup a track day at Duttonville, Ontario. I was too late to get on it or I would go to the circuit track as well. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 71,464 km - 44,406 miles 14.4101 @ 94.67 mph Last edited by Mischief007; May 10th, 2008 at 6:54 PM.

May 10th, 2008, 4:34 AM	#15
SoxXpupPeT Joined: Dec 24th, 2005 Last Online: September 11th, 2009 Location: Yonkers, NY Posts: 998 Car: 82' Impala, 94' Z28 Rep Power: 21	damn that aint bad at all. after an exhaust CAI tune blah blah im sure youll be in the 13's no problem __________________

May 10th, 2008, 4:37 AM	#16
Night_Hawk Joined: Oct 5th, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Gander Newfoundland Age: 19 Posts: 751 Car: 1996 Ford Thunderbird - 1986 Pontiac Grand Prix Rep Power: 16	Excellent car, It's identical to another one that drives around my town also another car that looks better in real life vs pictures __________________ Something new coming soon.

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Wizegui Joined: May 3rd, 2006 Last Online: 8:11 AM Location: Richmond, BC Age: 18 Posts: 2,054 Car: 93 Toyota Tercel LFS Status: Rep Power: 31	How much was this model compared to the GXP?? Having one of those would seriously be one heck of an experience __________________ My 1993 Lexus IS 150... If you actually googled this up, then I've got some bad news for you...

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May 11th, 2008, 1:41 AM	#19
Mischief007 Joined: Dec 3rd, 2004 Last Online: Yesterday Location: London, Ontario, Canada Age: 28 Posts: 4,525 Car: 2004 GP GTP CompG LFS Status: Rep Power: 29	If I wanted a GXP (Couldn't find one at the time I was looking) it probably would be around 4 to 5k more than the cost of my car these days. These cars don't really have torque steer. Hard to believe, my Alero had worse torque steer than the Grand Prix. The Grand Prix will track pretty straight with minimal steering input to compensate for torque steer. It is actually quite well behaved. __________________ 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP CompG 71,464 km - 44,406 miles 14.4101 @ 94.67 mph

May 11th, 2008, 8:02 AM	#20
SoxXpupPeT Joined: Dec 24th, 2005 Last Online: September 11th, 2009 Location: Yonkers, NY Posts: 998 Car: 82' Impala, 94' Z28 Rep Power: 21	ahh lucky on the torque steer part. especially when putting down the power that engine does. i have an 87' lesebre with the 3800. good engine. just wish it ran 100% it hasnt run right for years. its been sitting for such a long time its a shame but that car had slight torque steer when pushing it to its limits __________________

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