The 87 and 88 Toyota's

zookiemike · August 22nd, 2009, 1:59 AM

Heres what I drive. The black one is my daily and has a Schneider performance 270-60 cam and it used to have a weber 32/36. Now it has a stock carb on it. I was tired of re jetting the thing every time the temp changed 10deg.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3516/3843498369_8218c05faa_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2653/3843497365_c180a1c5b4_b.jpg

this is the one with 267k on it. It's a beater but that makes it fun.
The poor old 4spd is about too give up but it still runs and drives, And sometimes i think the motor might even be a little stronger images/smilies/dry.gif

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The mirrors are on the fenders because the doors are removable.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2597/3843499353_42dd7bbd6a_b.jpg

zookiemike · August 22nd, 2009, 11:56 PM

So no Toyota hilux love?

darkshark0159 · August 23rd, 2009, 12:00 AM

Well first of all, they aren't real "Hilux" Toyotas, are they?

Spectre · August 23rd, 2009, 12:05 AM

Actually in those years they are. The only difference is the badging.

The US branch of Toyota truck development doesn't split off from mainline Hilux development until 1995, when the 96 Tacoma was introduced. From 1976 until then, the Hilux was sold as the Pickup, the only difference being the badging. If you take a pre-Tacoma 'Pickup' apart, you will find many of the parts stamped with "Hilux".

It's mostly been downhill since 1995, though....

darkshark0159 · August 23rd, 2009, 12:07 AM

Interesting. Didn't know that. I am kind of sick of everyone with a 97 Tacoma saying "OMG I got a Hilux", so it's good to know that zookimike can actually walk the talk.

Spectre · August 23rd, 2009, 12:13 AM

Hell, they don't even really look that similar (Tacoma v. same year Hilux). Yeah, most of the body panels are the same, but the front ends are different.

Specifically, the Tacoma has a weaker frame and softer suspension than the Hilux and was designed to be "more carlike" to boost sales. The first generation Tacoma had a weakened Hilux frame. The succeeding generations are actually built off the Land Cruiser Prado chassis. This was originally the "light duty" Land Cruiser variant and is now even softer as it is positioned as a sort of Infiniti FX competitor.

This may also be why the Tacoma guys have to have so much reinforcement installed to go offroad. They've had issues.

TomCat · August 23rd, 2009, 12:28 AM

Kinda reminds me of the time I tried to pull a Tacoma off the rocks in a river with my Toyota. He didn't have a rear bumper on, nor any tow hooks, so they put the strap through a hole in his rear frame rail. First on one side, then the other, and I twisted both sides of his frame rails trying to get him out. He ended up bobbing his his truck shortly after that. hehe

argatoga · August 23rd, 2009, 12:57 AM

The Toyota Tacoma, it's as shity as its namesake.

zookiemike · August 23rd, 2009, 5:29 AM

I've owned about seven of this generation of truck, I love the hell out of them.

I really like the 2wd trucks because of the way they drive. I cant explain it. If you drive any other small jap built truck, All your doing is driving a truck. In a toyota it's a whole new story. But it's sad to say that the newer they get, The worse they get.

I've owned a TON of different cars and trucks but my heart is with older toyota's

freeferrarisdonotexist · August 24th, 2009, 7:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zookiemike

I've owned about seven of this generation of truck, I love the hell out of them.

I really like the 2wd trucks because of the way they drive. I cant explain it. If you drive any other small jap built truck, All your doing is driving a truck. In a toyota it's a whole new story. But it's sad to say that the newer they get, The worse they get.

I've owned a TON of different cars and trucks but my heart is with older toyota's

I understand you there- old Toyotas- trucks or cars- are for some reason just different to drive.

Spectre · August 24th, 2009, 7:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zookiemike

I've owned about seven of this generation of truck, I love the hell out of them.

I really like the 2wd trucks because of the way they drive. I cant explain it. If you drive any other small jap built truck, All your doing is driving a truck. In a toyota it's a whole new story. But it's sad to say that the newer they get, The worse they get.

I've owned a TON of different cars and trucks but my heart is with older toyota's

Never driven a Nissan D21 or WD21 with the V6, have you? images/smilies/biggrin.gif

As much fun as the old Hilux was (I had an 82), the V6 Nissan Hardbody or Pathfinder is significantly more fun than any of the Toyota counterparts. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

And they handle better - which is why I have a Pathfinder these days. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

darkshark0159 · August 24th, 2009, 7:27 AM

Yeah, I have some respect for those old Pathfinders after seeing old early 90s ski videos where they'd pretty much travel to the end of the Earth in them.

Spectre · August 24th, 2009, 7:36 AM

Yeah... basically the US rule of thumb IMHO is if you want a 4 cylinder Japanese truck, get a pre-Tacoma Toyota (though the I4 Nissans are a close second). If you want a V6, there's no comparison - Toyota's truck V6s are pathetic, so Nissan is the only choice there.

And, IMHO, the Nissans have a better suspension design for on-road use.

But, if you want an I4 mini truck, the two in post one are very, very hard to beat. images/smilies/biggrin.gif

zookiemike · August 24th, 2009, 3:53 PM

Oh yeah. Hardbody's are great trucks. The ka and the the old z24 engines are right up there for sure.
I also like the vg30's in a the 5spd trucks. They do boogie. That would be the second choice if I had too buy another truck. images/smilies/cheers.gif

jetsetter · August 25th, 2009, 2:34 AM

Here is mine:

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/9172/tr1uq0.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/6585/truckminelq0.jpg

JipJopJones · August 25th, 2009, 9:50 PM

Nice trucks man! I've always liked old 'yota's.

@ Jetsetter - wow dude, that truck seems like it's in pristene condition... do you vacume seal it every night or something?

GM_IV · August 26th, 2009, 1:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spectre

If you want a V6, there's no comparison - Toyota's truck V6s are pathetic, so Nissan is the only choice there.

I guess that explains why some older Toyota truck owners seem to want to swap a straight-six 5M-GE(my car's engine) instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zookiemike

I really like the 2wd trucks because of the way they drive. I cant explain it. If you drive any other small jap built truck, All your doing is driving a truck. In a toyota it's a whole new story. But it's sad to say that the newer they get, The worse they get.

I've owned a TON of different cars and trucks but my heart is with older toyota's

I'm of the same mindset only on the cars side. I also can't explain it myself...I drive a very fun to drive new car(certainly not a current Toyota)...only to get back into my old Toyota and enjoy it even more.

Nice trucks btw.

zookiemike · August 28th, 2009, 4:11 AM

Thanks on the comments.

The black one is nice. The white one sucks, But i like it images/smilies/lol.gif

August 22nd, 2009, 1:59 AM	#1
zookiemike Joined: Nov 3rd, 2008 Last Online: 1:30 AM Location: Grand Ledge MI Posts: 63 Car: 88 Toyota Hilux petrol/87 hilux 267k Rep Power: 5	The 87 and 88 Toyota's Heres what I drive. The black one is my daily and has a Schneider performance 270-60 cam and it used to have a weber 32/36. Now it has a stock carb on it. I was tired of re jetting the thing every time the temp changed 10deg. this is the one with 267k on it. It's a beater but that makes it fun. The poor old 4spd is about too give up but it still runs and drives, And sometimes i think the motor might even be a little stronger . The mirrors are on the fenders because the doors are removable. Last edited by zookiemike; August 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 AM.

August 23rd, 2009, 12:00 AM	#3
darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 7:44 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,848 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 78	Well first of all, they aren't real "Hilux" Toyotas, are they? __________________

August 23rd, 2009, 12:05 AM	#4
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 6:06 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,339 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 191	Actually in those years they are. The only difference is the badging. The US branch of Toyota truck development doesn't split off from mainline Hilux development until 1995, when the 96 Tacoma was introduced. From 1976 until then, the Hilux was sold as the Pickup, the only difference being the badging. If you take a pre-Tacoma 'Pickup' apart, you will find many of the parts stamped with "Hilux". It's mostly been downhill since 1995, though.... __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike)

August 23rd, 2009, 12:07 AM	#5
darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 7:44 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,848 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 78	Interesting. Didn't know that. I am kind of sick of everyone with a 97 Tacoma saying "OMG I got a Hilux", so it's good to know that zookimike can actually walk the talk. __________________ Last edited by darkshark0159; August 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 AM.

August 23rd, 2009, 12:13 AM	#6
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 6:06 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,339 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 191	Hell, they don't even really look that similar (Tacoma v. same year Hilux). Yeah, most of the body panels are the same, but the front ends are different. Specifically, the Tacoma has a weaker frame and softer suspension than the Hilux and was designed to be "more carlike" to boost sales. The first generation Tacoma had a weakened Hilux frame. The succeeding generations are actually built off the Land Cruiser Prado chassis. This was originally the "light duty" Land Cruiser variant and is now even softer as it is positioned as a sort of Infiniti FX competitor. This may also be why the Tacoma guys have to have so much reinforcement installed to go offroad. They've had issues. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike) Last edited by Spectre; August 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 AM.

August 22nd, 2009, 11:56 PM	#2
zookiemike Joined: Nov 3rd, 2008 Last Online: 1:30 AM Location: Grand Ledge MI Posts: 63 Car: 88 Toyota Hilux petrol/87 hilux 267k Rep Power: 5	So no Toyota hilux love?

August 23rd, 2009, 12:28 AM	#7
TomCat Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 5:56 AM Location: Arizona Age: 25 Posts: 4,173 Rep Power: 70	Kinda reminds me of the time I tried to pull a Tacoma off the rocks in a river with my Toyota. He didn't have a rear bumper on, nor any tow hooks, so they put the strap through a hole in his rear frame rail. First on one side, then the other, and I twisted both sides of his frame rails trying to get him out. He ended up bobbing his his truck shortly after that. hehe __________________

August 23rd, 2009, 12:57 AM	#8
argatoga Can't Start His Wank Joined: Oct 4th, 2005 Last Online: 9:00 AM Location: Washington State, USA Age: 26 Posts: 4,776 Car: '78 MG Midget, '78 Honda CB400t Rep Power: 162	The Toyota Tacoma, it's as shity as its namesake. __________________ "If you think about it breast implants aren't much different than braces. Their main purpose is to improve one's appearance, at least that's how it was in my case." - KaJun "Anyway, I'm off to eat my dick" - Austere

August 23rd, 2009, 5:29 AM	#9
zookiemike Joined: Nov 3rd, 2008 Last Online: 1:30 AM Location: Grand Ledge MI Posts: 63 Car: 88 Toyota Hilux petrol/87 hilux 267k Rep Power: 5	I've owned about seven of this generation of truck, I love the hell out of them. I really like the 2wd trucks because of the way they drive. I cant explain it. If you drive any other small jap built truck, All your doing is driving a truck. In a toyota it's a whole new story. But it's sad to say that the newer they get, The worse they get. I've owned a TON of different cars and trucks but my heart is with older toyota's

August 24th, 2009, 7:27 AM	#12
darkshark0159 Joined: Dec 24th, 2007 Last Online: 7:44 AM Location: a snowy land Age: 18 Posts: 1,848 Car: Mercedes-Benz C240 W203 Rep Power: 78	Yeah, I have some respect for those old Pathfinders after seeing old early 90s ski videos where they'd pretty much travel to the end of the Earth in them. __________________

August 24th, 2009, 7:36 AM	#13
Spectre Joined: Feb 1st, 2007 Last Online: 6:06 AM Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 32 Posts: 8,339 Car: 87 XJ6, 95 XJR, 90 WD21, 86 CB700SC, 98 PC800 Rep Power: 191	Yeah... basically the US rule of thumb IMHO is if you want a 4 cylinder Japanese truck, get a pre-Tacoma Toyota (though the I4 Nissans are a close second). If you want a V6, there's no comparison - Toyota's truck V6s are pathetic, so Nissan is the only choice there. And, IMHO, the Nissans have a better suspension design for on-road use. But, if you want an I4 mini truck, the two in post one are very, very hard to beat. __________________ Enough is enough. We are not here to subsidize your clueless business plans or reward your failures. 1986 Honda Nighthawk 700S (project, light restoration in progress) 1987 Jaguar XJ6 Series III Vanden Plas (modified) 1990 Nissan (WD21) Pathfinder SE 4x4 (little red offroad commuter box) 1995 Jaguar (X300) XJR 1998 Honda Pacific Coast PC800 (two-wheeled pickup truck/utility bike) Last edited by Spectre; August 24th, 2009 at 7:37 AM.

August 24th, 2009, 3:53 PM	#14
zookiemike Joined: Nov 3rd, 2008 Last Online: 1:30 AM Location: Grand Ledge MI Posts: 63 Car: 88 Toyota Hilux petrol/87 hilux 267k Rep Power: 5	Oh yeah. Hardbody's are great trucks. The ka and the the old z24 engines are right up there for sure. I also like the vg30's in a the 5spd trucks. They do boogie. That would be the second choice if I had too buy another truck.

August 25th, 2009, 2:34 AM	#15
jetsetter Joined: Dec 11th, 2005 Last Online: 1:31 PM Location: Most Serene Republic of California Posts: 5,742 Car: 1992 Toyota Pickup Rep Power: 76	Here is mine: __________________ "I saw myself founding a new religion, marching into Asia riding an elephant, a turban on my head and in my hands the new Koran I would have written to suit my needs." - Napoléon Bonaparte

August 25th, 2009, 9:50 PM	#16
JipJopJones Joined: Aug 17th, 2006 Last Online: 3:40 AM Location: North Vancouver, BC, Canada Age: 19 Posts: 1,864 Car: 1977 Jeep CJ5/1991 Jeep Cherokee Rep Power: 33	Nice trucks man! I've always liked old 'yota's. @ Jetsetter - wow dude, that truck seems like it's in pristene condition... do you vacume seal it every night or something? __________________ XBL Gamer Tag: JipJopJones Eh? Rest well in the Hands of your new owner El Camino you will be mine again some day.

August 28th, 2009, 4:11 AM	#18
zookiemike Joined: Nov 3rd, 2008 Last Online: 1:30 AM Location: Grand Ledge MI Posts: 63 Car: 88 Toyota Hilux petrol/87 hilux 267k Rep Power: 5	Thanks on the comments. The black one is nice. The white one sucks, But i like it

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