Q: Fifth Gear torrent sizes

Samu · February 24th, 2008, 03:14 PM

Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but forgive me, I'm new here.

I wonder why all torrents what I can find about Fifth Gear espisodes are only half size from for example typical Top Gear episode?

The quality really goes down when 1 hour is being compressed to 350mb size images/smilies/wacko.gif

It may look "ok" from comp screen but I bet many of us here have some HD -tellys or videoprojectors (like myself) and those 350mb -size episodes look just next to awfully.. images/smilies/sad.gif

So .. question remains, why?

epp_b · February 24th, 2008, 05:06 PM

1. Fifth Gear is not recorded in HD, so there's little purpose in creating huge rips
2. 350MB is a nice size to fit a whole season onto a DVD-R.
3. 350MB is a nice size to download reasonably quickly

If you want higher quality rips, you'll have to find a different source or appeal to the cappers to provide higher quality rips.

db2450 · February 24th, 2008, 05:15 PM

I don't think anyone from the er......... Ripping people does 700MB files for under 1 hours shows. Fifth Gear is 42 minutes. Also, the video looks fine on my 52 inch telly played off my PS3. images/smilies/smile.gif

epp_b Top Gear isn't recorded in HD, so your #1 doesn't really make sense. images/smilies/smile.gif

teeb · February 24th, 2008, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by db2450

Ripping people does 700MB files for under 1 hours shows. Fifth Gear is 42 minutes. Also, the video looks fine on my 52 inch telly played off my PS3. images/smilies/smile.gif

Yes, here's the main point. Fifth Gear's eps are only 2/3 as long as a Top Gear ep.

Channel 5 has ad breaks (and an hourly quick news update!), BBC doesn't. So that's one fairly large reason there's a difference in file size - less play time.

Viper007Bond · February 24th, 2008, 11:11 PM

Read the first paragraph or so under "release rules": http://rules.nukenet.info/p.html?id=2007_TV.nfo (zoom in on the image)

Summary:

Fifth Gear is an hour show with commercials. Like American TV shows, this makes is about 42 minutes worth of video, so 350MB is the standard.

Top Gear is an hour show with no commercials. At the same MB/minute, that'd work out to around 425MB (which is what we used to release at when we did our own rips that took much longer to release). However, most Scene groups just go immediately from 350MB up to 700MB as most of the rules are based around CD (and DVD somewhat) disc sizes.

60 minutes of video crammed into 350MB would look like crap and ~42 minutes of video in 700MB would be extreme overkill, especially since it's only a digital-signal (non-HD) source.

Samu · February 25th, 2008, 12:21 PM

Ok, thank you.

I'm not familiar with this whole .torrent -system nor the things that decides the size of certain show.

jensked · February 25th, 2008, 12:40 PM

Furthermore, 350mb looks fine on a "nowadays standard" LCD TV.

Viper007Bond · February 25th, 2008, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samu

nor the things that decides the size of certain show.

That'd be the Scene.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scene

February 24th, 2008, 05:15 PM	#3
db2450 Joined: Jul 25th, 2007 Last Online: Yesterday Posts: 488 Rep Power: 6	I don't think anyone from the er......... Ripping people does 700MB files for under 1 hours shows. Fifth Gear is 42 minutes. Also, the video looks fine on my 52 inch telly played off my PS3. epp_b Top Gear isn't recorded in HD, so your #1 doesn't really make sense.

February 24th, 2008, 11:11 PM	#5
Viper007Bond Lazy Head Dude Joined: Sep 21st, 2003 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 24 Posts: 20,135 Car: Dodge Viper (I wish!) Rep Power: 224	Read the first paragraph or so under "release rules": http://rules.nukenet.info/p.html?id=2007_TV.nfo (zoom in on the image) Summary: Fifth Gear is an hour show with commercials. Like American TV shows, this makes is about 42 minutes worth of video, so 350MB is the standard. Top Gear is an hour show with no commercials. At the same MB/minute, that'd work out to around 425MB (which is what we used to release at when we did our own rips that took much longer to release). However, most Scene groups just go immediately from 350MB up to 700MB as most of the rules are based around CD (and DVD somewhat) disc sizes. 60 minutes of video crammed into 350MB would look like crap and ~42 minutes of video in 700MB would be extreme overkill, especially since it's only a digital-signal (non-HD) source. __________________ Fight back against the evil Quiky by +1'ing this post! There is no replacement for displacement. - Wolfgang Bernhard, Chief Operating Officer, Chrysler Group talking about the Dodge Viper SRT-10 ... I ask Herb Helbig, vehicle synthesis manager for SRT and a member of the original Team Viper development group since day one, if they'd ever thought of adding traction control. "It comes with two," he says, pointing at my feet. "Learn to use them." Got it. - Motor Trend on the 2006 Dodge Viper Coupe, November 2005

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Samu Joined: Mar 13th, 2007 Last Online: February 28th, 2008 Location: Espoo, Finland Age: 27 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Ok, thank you. I'm not familiar with this whole .torrent -system nor the things that decides the size of certain show. __________________ Maximum Attack! Finnish World Rally Champions: Ari Vatanen 1981 Hannu Mikkola 1983 Timo Salonen 1985 Juha Kankkunen 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993 Tommi Mäkinen 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 Marcus Grönholm 2000, 2002 Mikko Hirvonen (2008...) And the Saga continues

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jensked Joined: Mar 31st, 2005 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Flanders, Belgium Age: 24 Posts: 3,865 Car: RIP Opel Astra -> 2006 Toyota Corolla Wagon Rep Power: 31	Furthermore, 350mb looks fine on a "nowadays standard" LCD TV. __________________

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February 24th, 2008, 03:14 PM	#1
Samu Joined: Mar 13th, 2007 Last Online: February 28th, 2008 Location: Espoo, Finland Age: 27 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Q: Fifth Gear torrent sizes Dunno if this is the right place to ask, but forgive me, I'm new here. I wonder why all torrents what I can find about Fifth Gear espisodes are only half size from for example typical Top Gear episode? The quality really goes down when 1 hour is being compressed to 350mb size It may look "ok" from comp screen but I bet many of us here have some HD -tellys or videoprojectors (like myself) and those 350mb -size episodes look just next to awfully.. So .. question remains, why? __________________ Maximum Attack! Finnish World Rally Champions: Ari Vatanen 1981 Hannu Mikkola 1983 Timo Salonen 1985 Juha Kankkunen 1986, 1987, 1991, 1993 Tommi Mäkinen 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 Marcus Grönholm 2000, 2002 Mikko Hirvonen (2008...) And the Saga continues

February 24th, 2008, 05:06 PM	#2
epp_b n00b of the year Joined: Jun 23rd, 2006 Last Online: Yesterday Location: Canadaland :) Posts: 4,143 Car: 1995 Nissan 240SX Rep Power: 28	1. Fifth Gear is not recorded in HD, so there's little purpose in creating huge rips 2. 350MB is a nice size to fit a whole season onto a DVD-R. 3. 350MB is a nice size to download reasonably quickly If you want higher quality rips, you'll have to find a different source or appeal to the cappers to provide higher quality rips.

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